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Dr 14 INCH DICK Md posted:99 Cherokee in the shop right now, coworker thought it was a starter failure based off their description of the symptoms and how it would just click. Turns out the 4.0 is siezed. How. How does this happen?
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# ? Dec 19, 2012 08:32 |
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Dr 14 INCH DICK Md posted:Turns out the 4.0 is siezed. Behold, a god who bleeds!
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# ? Dec 19, 2012 08:38 |
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Dr 14 INCH DICK Md posted:Turns out the 4.0 is siezed. As in seized by the police because someone tried to use black tar heroin as lubricant?
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# ? Dec 19, 2012 10:43 |
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thelightguy posted:As in seized by the police because someone successfully used black tar heroin as lubricant?
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# ? Dec 19, 2012 14:17 |
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Dr 14 INCH DICK Md posted:99 Cherokee in the shop right now, coworker thought it was a starter failure based off their description of the symptoms and how it would just click. Turns out the 4.0 is siezed. Please tell me it's because the owner decided to run it on sand instead of oil.
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# ? Dec 19, 2012 15:34 |
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Dr 14 INCH DICK Md posted:99 Cherokee in the shop right now, coworker thought it was a starter failure based off their description of the symptoms and how it would just click. Turns out the 4.0 is siezed. Nah.. Pull the plugs and drain the coolant out of the cylinder(s). Then replace head/gasket and drive 350K miles more. Calling shenanigans on the seized 4.0L.... Unless there are moving parts that left the crankcase, the 4.0 is unstoppable.
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# ? Dec 19, 2012 16:15 |
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Some friends of mine saw one toss a rod through the block wheeling Sunday, then make it up the obstacle on 5 cylinders and drive back to the trailer after, so I'm not too sure that is accurate either. I am rather curious how someone managed to seize a 4.0.
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# ? Dec 19, 2012 16:26 |
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Years ago, I think in the Jeep thread, I posted photos of the bent and twisted rods out of a buddy's Cherokee's 4.0. He hydrolocked while wheeling, and then drove it home about 30+ miles.
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# ? Dec 19, 2012 16:33 |
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Slack3r posted:Nah.. Pull the plugs and drain the coolant out of the cylinder(s). Then replace head/gasket and drive 350K miles more. Well, it practically is a tractor motor. Devyl posted:Please tell me it's because the owner decided to run it on sand instead of oil. Guess they found a new way to smuggle drugs: In the oil.
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# ? Dec 19, 2012 17:24 |
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Geoj posted:So what models/years is this a problem on? My wife wants to get a used Impreza hatchback in the semi-near future You can get an aftermarket pickup from a few vendors (such as Killer B). I've yet to see an NA motor with a broken pickup though I did see a turbo 2.0L pickup shatter once when the front suspension collapsed taking a jump on a rally stage and the car bounced off the oilpan.. I had my pickup replaced two years ago and it wasn't that bad, just had a few small scratches on it. I put in a Killer B pickup and crank baffle.
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# ? Dec 19, 2012 18:52 |
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Weren't there cases of mechanics being unable to destroy 4.0's with the silica stuff they poured in during Cash for Clunkers?
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# ? Dec 19, 2012 19:44 |
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amenenema posted:Weren't there cases of mechanics being unable to destroy 4.0's with the silica stuff they poured in during Cash for Clunkers? Yes, there were a couple cases local to me that I know that had issues killing their 4.0s.
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# ? Dec 19, 2012 19:50 |
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No signs of coolant loss anywhere. We managed to crank it over about ten degrees with a 5 foot breaker bar on the crank nut and then it just stopped there. Looked in through the oil fill cap and the oil appeared to have solidified Nada on the dipstick either.
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# ? Dec 19, 2012 20:29 |
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Pour a couple of pints of thinners into the oil & let it sit overnight, bet it'll crank right up after.
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# ? Dec 19, 2012 21:01 |
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Please tell me you're going to get to tear it down and not just push it back out the door.
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# ? Dec 19, 2012 22:02 |
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amenenema posted:Weren't there cases of mechanics being unable to destroy 4.0's with the silica stuff they poured in during Cash for Clunkers? I don't know if they used silica on this one, but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RATW0-Oy3OY
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# ? Dec 19, 2012 22:31 |
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I hope the horn survived.
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# ? Dec 19, 2012 23:22 |
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grnberet2b posted:I don't know if they used silica on this one, but... they didn't take very good care of it
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# ? Dec 20, 2012 01:27 |
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I got my car back from the mechanic last Friday but didn't have time to check out the new clunking noise until today. Those are the bolts that hold the trailing arm on on the passengers side I thought it was the swaybar links making the noise because I knew they needed to be done. I've been driving it like that for almost a week. The last pic is a missing bolt from the e-brake cable but still, what the gently caress? This is why I don't trust people with my car.
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# ? Dec 21, 2012 01:35 |
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Hah holy poo poo. What repair was it in for?
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# ? Dec 21, 2012 01:40 |
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Just the 4 trailing arm bushings. They only put in the front 2 and told me the back ones were gonna be "4 more hours of labor" and "that they were fine". Also new snow tires but those have been great.
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# ? Dec 21, 2012 01:47 |
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Is that a Subaru? The front ones are the hardest because the bushing is encased in a metal sleeve. The rears pop right out. Also there are nice poly bushings you can put in there.
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# ? Dec 21, 2012 05:27 |
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You're going to tell us about when you go back there armed with a crowbar, right?
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# ? Dec 21, 2012 08:38 |
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Yea its my Forester. I brought some Whiteline bushings for them to put in because I'd like to upgrade all the bushings eventually. It pisses me off because I brought it to a mechanic to save my time and now I have to spend today doing the back ones anyway. I can't bring myself to make any jokes about violence after what happened here last week I did call and bitch though so maybe I can get a break on labor or something next time I go in. I bring my work trucks to these guys and they usually do an awesome job which is why I brought my car in this time.
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# ? Dec 21, 2012 15:27 |
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Billy Tully posted:Yea its my Forester. I brought some Whiteline bushings for them to put in because I'd like to upgrade all the bushings eventually. It pisses me off because I brought it to a mechanic to save my time and now I have to spend today doing the back ones anyway. Uh, I'd go double-check your work trucks right now. Who knows how long they have been pulling this poo poo?
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# ? Dec 21, 2012 16:00 |
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First the diff- Then the idiot machinist who ground the flywheel and not the mating surfaces as well And finally a Spec 3+ clutch that just didn't care for my launching technique... I put a few thousand miles on the clutch with a slight vibration, one day it got really bad.. .... and now I don't mod my daily driver anymore
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# ? Dec 21, 2012 19:13 |
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KyleQ posted:First the diff- That reminds me of the orange VW camper that's essentially been half way round the world. In one of their pre-trip work sessions they went and got their flywheel machined. When they put it back in it leaked like a bitch. It would seem that some dopey rear end trainee clamped the surface the oil seal runs on for the lathe. poo poo of a thing to discover once it's back together and running.
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# ? Dec 21, 2012 23:44 |
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An object lesson in not using a loving sledge to try and get a shifter mount back in.
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# ? Dec 25, 2012 03:23 |
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Crustashio posted:An object lesson in not using a loving sledge to try and get a shifter mount back in. Is it just the mount?
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# ? Dec 25, 2012 03:25 |
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CommieGIR posted:Is it just the mount? Yeah, I just cracked the ear off. I was test fitting new poly carrier bushings (that aren't designed very well) and was basically trying to get the pin through. I had my sledge handy so I picked that up instead of my rubber mallet, and that is the end result.
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# ? Dec 25, 2012 03:34 |
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grnberet2b posted:I don't know if they used silica on this one, but... [jeep] Why oh why did I look at the comments for that video. Must be punishment for watching the automotive equivalent of a snuff film.
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# ? Dec 25, 2012 03:40 |
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Crustashio posted:An object lesson in not using a loving sledge to try and get a shifter mount back in. Well, if you're adventurous you can just replace the back section of the transmission housing. I don't know if you can weld that back on. Otherwise that trans is trash.
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# ? Dec 25, 2012 03:49 |
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You could probably AlumaWeld that back on, unless the cast aluminum has too much oil soaked into it. Then it will just plain suck.
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# ? Dec 25, 2012 04:56 |
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kastein posted:You could probably AlumaWeld that back on Oh, that's a good point. I always forget about that stuff. I've seen some pretty decent repairs with it, and that looks like a good candidate if it gets prepared properly (i.e.: not just birdshitting on top of the crack).
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# ? Dec 25, 2012 05:11 |
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Looks like neat stuff judging by youtube videos, but I can definitely see loving that up myself. Per Motronic's suggestion I'll try to get someone who's good at TIG welding. Otherwise I'll just try to get a new trans. It's a ZF 320 that was used in all e36 M3s + 328s, and some e39s and e46s as well. ~400 for a good unit.
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# ? Dec 25, 2012 05:27 |
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Tough part is going to be jigging it to be in the right spot and surface prep. I would bevel to half the thickness of the tab, clamp or mount it to make sure the pin goes straight through (maybe even leave it in while brazing) and then fill the bevel in. If you are afraid it won't be strong enough, run a bead down the other side too. IIRC harbor freight sells alumaweld in small quantities. E: clean the motherfuck out of it with chlorine free brakleen (preferably a mix that contains only acetone and heptane to avoid toxic smoke) and preheat lightly with a torch to burn any residue off and you will be much happier trying to braze it.
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# ? Dec 25, 2012 05:29 |
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kastein posted:Tough part is going to be jigging it to be in the right spot and surface prep. I would bevel to half the thickness of the tab, clamp or mount it to make sure the pin goes straight through (maybe even leave it in while brazing) and then fill the bevel in. If you are afraid it won't be strong enough, run a bead down the other side too. Surface prep yes. Jigging it no. That tab has a friend next to it with an interference fit pin. Getting it in the right place should be dead easy.
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# ? Dec 25, 2012 23:25 |
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# ? Dec 29, 2012 03:57 |
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Transmission? From what?
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# ? Dec 29, 2012 04:02 |
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Well who filled the pan with gravel?
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# ? Dec 29, 2012 04:06 |