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Darth Walrus posted:The big problem is that the main area of Wall Maria (the bit surrounded by the small 'blister' cities) is mainly used for food production. So you'd theoretically be safe from Titans if you stayed put, but... well, hope you like starvation. Even in the cities there seem to be open areas that a small group of people might be able to cultivate. And if canned food is a thing that's not just in ancient ruins, a small group of people might be able to live off that for quite a while. They've got rivers too- presumably fish. It's just as likely that they all left and we'll never hear anything about them, but I think it's an interesting thought.
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I think it would be really cool for the Scouting Legion come across an independent group of survivors like that, but wasn't there something about titans being able to detect the presence of humans? If that's the case, couldn't Sasquatch wipe any group like this out?
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There's definitely a river that runs from the capital through Eren's town. You could probably do a lot better by boat than horses.
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Dr_Amazing posted:There's definitely a river that runs from the capital through Eren's town. You could probably do a lot better by boat than horses. Titan bodies are very light. It seems very likely that they can float.
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Jackard posted:I think it would be really cool for the Scouting Legion come across an independent group of survivors like that, but wasn't there something about titans being able to detect the presence of humans? Probably, but the increasingly apparent non-random nature of titan attacks might leave such cities unimportant in the eyes of the various (?) factions pulling the strings. If they're living in seclusion they aren't at risk of discovering or overstepping much.
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If the titans wanted to kill everyone they would have by now. They've shown it's pretty easy for them to kick in the gates or climb the walls. They can even generate more titans in secure areas. They must be pushing for something besides the complete destruction of the human race. There was a bit a while back about how the world was almost destroyed by war. It's possible the titans were being used as weapons, basically biological mechs. They used Titan tech to build the walls. At some point the standards for making titans started slipping or maybe it was a new form of attack. Either way the result was feral titans showing up and attacking everything. The government hid their involvement and decided to ride it out in the cities. But somewhere there's another city state that's still sending over piloted titans. The hairy Titan especially seems to fit this. He wasn't 100% sure they spoke the same language so it makes sense he's from another country. And he was oddly interested in the 3D maneuver gear. Dr_Amazing fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Dec 22, 2012 |
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My crazy theory is that after the world was almost destroyed by war, the surviving countries agreed to do the massive wall thing. To ensure that they'd never war with each other again they then sent out the titan bioweapons as an ultimate no man's land. The Church safeguards knowledge and technology to ensure that the walled countries never again go to war. This is why The Church is feels not revealing the truth of the Titans is more important that the survival of humanity. They know that there are other humans not only in other walled countries but among the Titans as well.
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Does every titan have a human inside of it? If so, that's like a massive loving titan-genocide that happened.
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It seems implied that the more intelligent Titans are actually human-Titans (the Colossal one, the Armoured one and Annie) while the stupid ones are weird conglomerations of regenerating flesh. They don't even digest what they eat.
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I think the "stupid" ones are humans that changed but lost control of themselves. Maybe they're all dreaming they're in a nice warm home safe and sound. 
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Eej posted:It seems implied that the more intelligent Titans are actually human-Titans (the Colossal one, the Armoured one and Annie) while the stupid ones are weird conglomerations of regenerating flesh. They don't even digest what they eat. Keep in mind that Titans are solar-powered, and the human body within them is not itself active (and may even slip into the coma that almost rendered Eren mindless as part of conserving energy). So the human inside can probably live off the solar energy the Titan body harvests. That could even be how the whole disaster happened, or part of how the technology was developed. Everyone gets huge awesome bodies and no one even needs food! Except that not everyone is able to resist falling into a blissful coma as they enter the energy-conservation state of semi-consciousness.
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Eej posted:It seems implied that the more intelligent Titans are actually human-Titans (the Colossal one, the Armoured one and Annie) while the stupid ones are weird conglomerations of regenerating flesh. They don't even digest what they eat. Plus I think we can kind of assume that the Sasquatch titan didn't breach the walls, but just crossed over itself and transformed a bunch of people on the other side. And all these titans are pretty mindless. For a while I assumed what you did about the different types of titans, because the only ones we know have humans in them are the controlled ones, naturally the non-controlled ones are non-human, right? Well, that doesn't necessarily follow. My guess is that they've all got people in them, but most of them were made in a way that gave them no control at all over their titan bodies. Even Eren had trouble with control at first. Though it's far from a sure thing. For one thing, when titans are killed they just evaporate, and don't leave a human corpse behind. Some of them also seem a bit small to fit a whole person in their neck.
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Eiba posted:Well, the couple panels of flashback we've gotten on Reiner/Bertholt's backstory, it looks like Ymir was a typical mindless man-eating titan. And she's a human now. They don't have to fit a whole person in their neck. Who is to say that only adults can turn into titans? Some of them might be children or even infants.
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Wandering Knitter posted:I think the "stupid" ones are humans that changed but lost control of themselves. Maybe they're all dreaming they're in a nice warm home safe and sound. Oh poo poo. That reminds me of the zombie horror manga "I am a hero." It's revealed that (minor spoilers) All of the zombies are people put in these bizarre states of hallucination/dreams where their actions in the dreams cause them to act zombie-like.
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Thoren posted:Does every titan have a human inside of it?
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There have certainly been titans too small to have a human in the nape of the neck.
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The neck might just act as a sort of biological command center. With no pilot it still runs on it's own but the whole thing falls apart if its destroyed.
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What if Titans start out as big ones like Eren/Annie, but once they lose control they become dumb, and the human inside gradually is eroded away, as the human gets smaller, so does the Titan, with scale/limbs based on how eroded those parts of the human inside are. Certainly would explain the hosed-uppedness of the anatomy of the Titans!
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Thoren posted:Oh poo poo. That reminds me of the zombie horror manga "I am a hero." It's revealed that (minor spoilers) All of the zombies are people put in these bizarre states of hallucination/dreams where their actions in the dreams cause them to act zombie-like.
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Jackard posted:When does it reveal this? I read up to him meeting the girl in the forest before tiring of it,, all I remember is that they mindlessly parrot behaviors from their former lives The reveal is a fair bit after that, when there are a set of sequences from the point-of-view of a zombified character.
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Jackard posted:When does it reveal this? I read up to him meeting the girl in the forest before tiring of it,, all I remember is that they mindlessly parrot behaviors from their former lives Pretty much what Ghost of Babyhead said. Those 'zombies' are probably some of the most interesting zombies ever thought up. Anyways, back to Titan Talk  (I don't want to ruin any more of that manga for you! It gets really good though!)
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Thoren posted:Pretty much what Ghost of Babyhead said. Those 'zombies' are probably some of the most interesting zombies ever thought up. the infected are still alive, but are being murdered by the frightened/bloodthirsty survivors
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Captain Invictus posted:What if Titans start out as big ones like Eren/Annie, but once they lose control they become dumb, and the human inside gradually is eroded away, as the human gets smaller, so does the Titan, with scale/limbs based on how eroded those parts of the human inside are. Certainly would explain the hosed-uppedness of the anatomy of the Titans! I'm like 90% certain that most small/stupid titans were humans at one point, rather than being huge then shrinking down. Remember the one with gimp limbs in the crushed house? That was pretty obviously Connie's mother - after all it even loving recognized him, if I remember correctly. That right there basically confirmed that even dumb ones can be made fairly freshly from adult humans.
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Thoren posted:A really cool plot path to follow would be giving the humans some sort of ability to detect who a titan is in the future. Titan blood reacts when exposed to flame. 
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Where can I get one! Also, this is the cast of the anime apparently. Look at those jackets! 
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Oh Snapalope posted:Where can I get one!
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Soulcleaver posted:I'm getting one of these and pretending it's Alita.
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Is there an example in this manga of a Titan other than the sasquatch guy having facial/chest hair? I think I remember one with a beard but I can't find it. Just asking because I was looking over this a little today and noticed the drawing of a Titan way back in chapter 2 definitely has facial hair, looks like it has body hair and kinda like it has pointed ears too. VVV: That's the one I was half-remembering, thanks. Hallgerd fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Jan 4, 2013 |
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Off the top of my head, the Titan who ate Eren had an old man beard.
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Oh yeah http://www.mangareader.net/shingeki-no-kyojin/41 Historia, holy poo poo thats a meaninful name, on a world that seems to have lost its history
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Oh for fucks sake why didn't they just leave why did they make ymir keep fighting 
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It kind of annoys me that Ymir is a woman when it's a male name 
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Vincent Valentine posted:Oh for fucks sake why didn't they just leave why did they make ymir keep fighting My thoughts exactly, when they grabbed her hair I thought they were gonna piggyback the hell out of there on her head, which would've been pretty awesome. Why would you have her go back and fight all the drat things again 
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Newfork posted:My thoughts exactly, when they grabbed her hair I thought they were gonna piggyback the hell out of there on her head, which would've been pretty awesome. Why would you have her go back and fight all the drat things again yeah, I was also expecting that.
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Holy poo poo An actual kinda happy ending 
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Wait wait, loss of limbs trickles down so that the 'pilot' loses those limbs as well? That's new...
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Rime posted:Wait wait, loss of limbs trickles down so that the 'pilot' loses those limbs as well? That's new... It doest not makes much sense, and that never happened to Eren. Perhaps she was bitten after she fell and was getting eaten by the other titans? Or perhaps it means she is really a different kind of human-titan than Eren.
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The scruffy art worked really well in this chapter. Too well, really. Also historia means history, but it also means story. Not necessarily objective facts. Edit: vvv Whoops, I was thinking of French, yeah. Safety Biscuits fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Jan 11, 2013 |
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House Louse posted:The scruffy art worked really well in this chapter. Too well, really. In portuguese at least, that is correct
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Elias_Maluco posted:It doest not makes much sense, and that never happened to Eren. Perhaps she was bitten after she fell and was getting eaten by the other titans? Or perhaps it means she is really a different kind of human-titan than Eren. Also, an okay ending.  And the implications of Historia's name are pretty obvious, it's just a shame it's monthly!
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