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Alereon posted:They're not maintaining the 64-bit nightlies so things may be broken. You're supposed to be using the 32-bit builds. I saw this, which is what prompted me to look into it. I guess they just haven't started updates again yet?
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icantfindaname posted:I saw this, which is what prompted me to look into it. I guess they just haven't started updates again yet? quote:win64 builds will be considered a tier 3ď build configuration.
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Dec 23, 2012 21:47
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Waterfox 17 is not being developed, as it is so far behind schedule that the author moved right over to working on WF18.
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Dec 27, 2012 02:51
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Makes sense. 18 was supposed to be released next week. In reality it will probably be the middle of the month, but it's too late. 19 will be out sometime in February too I believe.
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I've used Waterfox for over a year, but I never really found a benefit with it. I know it's faster in benchmarks, but I never really found a difference in performance even with Firefox using over 1500MB of RAM. I'm running Windows 7 x64 with 24GB of RAM and an i7 920 if it means anything.
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Dec 30, 2012 06:32
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fookolt posted:I've used Waterfox for over a year, but I never really found a benefit with it. I know it's faster in benchmarks, but I never really found a difference in performance even with Firefox using over 1500MB of RAM. Their BrowserMark score is ~10% higher than FF; the version of BrowserMark they used is unspecified but seems to no longer exist There is no such thing as the "Fishbowl" benchmark Firefox wins the V8 benchmark by ~13% Waterfox is 0.5% slower than FF at SunSpider You aren't seeing any benefit with WF because there isn't any. It's maybe faster at a certain synthetic benchmark, but its JavaScript performance is at best equal to FF. It has the pretty big downside of not receiving security patches. The current version of WaterFox is 16.0.1, which is missing the 16.0.2 critical security patch. Plus any more recent security fixes.
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I used it because 64-bit flash just seemed to be a little bit more stable than the 32-bit version which as a result made the browser seem to be more responsive. Half the people complaining about it are just doing it because they think 64-bit means it's better or they think that Chrome is 64-bit, which it isn't or in some situations only partially 64-bit.
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Dec 30, 2012 15:08
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Aleksei Vasiliev posted:Of the benchmarks on their site: Yeah, I should have mentioned I switched over back to regular ol' Firefox because of that security patch issue. I just wish there was a version of Firefox that could handle using 2000+ MB of RAM. I hate restarting my browser 
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Dec 30, 2012 19:55
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I never perceived any difference with various 64-bit builds of FF over 32-bit ones. I did use Palemoon for a time, but only because it removed some FF features I didn't like. (Then it removed some newer features I did like so I switched back to FF.) For your memory issues, maybe you could find an addon to put tabs to "sleep" (cached) after a certain amount of unused time? I'm sure I had that feature at some point, I think it was in Tab Mix Plus but I'm not sure.
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Dec 31, 2012 03:03
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TMP doesn't seem to have anything like that, but I've been using Unloadtab for a while now and it seems to work properly.
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Dec 31, 2012 03:26
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Bieeardo posted:TMP doesn't seem to have anything like that, but I've been using Unloadtab for a while now and it seems to work properly. I really wish it would work, though, as I have one tab I always want to be functional and one that will suck up tons of memory if it doesn't get closed (or disabled) after some time, so this extension seemed perfect until it didn't work  Nevermind, it works on a fresh profile after deleting the old one. I guess "reset Firefox" doesn't completely wipe out everything. I must have some setting somewhere that breaks it, so I'll have to figure it out! Buff Skeleton fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Dec 31, 2012 |
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Dec 31, 2012 06:35
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Bieeardo posted:TMP doesn't seem to have anything like that, but I've been using Unloadtab for a while now and it seems to work properly. This looks great; thanks!
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This is a very long shot, but you know how SALR lets you tag goons with a "colouring/note" between their username and avatar, so you can remember who's a cool guy, who constantly argues in bad faith, who's a dogfucker, etc.? I just ran into an exceedingly stupid article on a fairly major newspaper, and I thought it would be cool if there were something similar, except that recognised names from any webpage. So I could select the author's name, right click, and add something like "a complete idiot", or a choice quote from the article, and if I ran into that journalist at a later point I would know not to bother. E.g. "George W. Bush" would get replaced by "George W. Bush [They misunderestimated me]" or whatever. I looked into text-replacement extensions, but they all involve going into a menu to insert both string entries, since they're likely meant for censoring bad words and whatnot. So, does anyone know of an extension that lets you set up text replacements on the fly, right click -> type replacement text?
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Jan 8, 2013 17:27
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FF 18 is out. Thanks for those who commented that Waterfox and Firefox have no real difference in performance anymore, I have been waiting for Waterfox to update forever, but didn't really realize the performance gain in using it was largely a placebo.
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Jan 8, 2013 21:47
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jeeves posted:FF 18 is out. The real draw to it is using 64 bit Java and Flash for me. I simply end up with better performance in those in their 64 bit versions and am often dealing with sites that use Flash or Java heavily so it's a major impact for me.
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If I have java x86 and x64 installed at the same time, will x64 take precedence?
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18 is ridiculously fast compared to 17. Earlier browser launch took maybe 10-20s at least, now it starts up pretty much right away with two windows and 220+65 (yeah...) tabs. Also tab switching happens nearly instantly, while before there was a noticeable latency with it. Pages seem to load a lot faster too. It feels pretty weird, being used to Firefox's inherent slowness for years, then suddendly everything working like a dream. Combined with a new OS (Windows 8) and other software like Office 2013, programs finally feel like they are actually using the resources of a modern computer in attempt to be as fast and smooth as possible.
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jeeves posted:If I have java x86 and x64 installed at the same time, will x64 take precedence? 64 bit browsers will always use 64 bit Java while 32 bit browsers will always use 32 bit Java.
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Jan 9, 2013 02:12
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I see FF18 shipped with the slow-scrolling bug.
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What is a "slow-scrolling bug"? When FF17 was released my scrolling speed tanked. Some guys advised to change the following values: mousewheel.default.delta_multiplier_x mousewheel.default.delta_multiplier_y I have them at 200 and scrolling works OK. You can also tweak the speed of scrolling with: general.smoothScroll.mouseWheel.durationMaxMS general.smoothScroll.mouseWheel.durationMinMS Maybe adjusting those options would help if the scrolling feels slow?
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Ihmemies posted:It feels pretty weird, being used to Firefox's inherent slowness for years, then suddendly everything working like a dream. Combined with a new OS (Windows 8) and other software like Office 2013, programs finally feel like they are actually using the resources of a modern computer in attempt to be as fast and smooth as possible.
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Hogburto posted:FF18 is clearly faster and Windows maybe faster than many previous iterations, but there's no way I'd say "as possible". That's why I said "in attempt to be" 
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Ihmemies posted:That's why I said "in attempt to be"
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I'm still on 17.0.1 (on Windows 7 Ultimate x64) and the scrolling speed is fine. Is it any worse in 18?
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I have the following values set in about:config, and scrolling is nice and fast: mousewheel.acceleration.start = 3 mousewheel.acceleration.factor = 10 The latter I usually have set around 7. Either way, it gives a nice boost to scrolling speed and makes the browser feel more responsive.
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Thanks for that. Next problem: anyone else having issues with Flash? It's always either crashing or just plain failing to load.
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~Coxy posted:Thanks for that. My solution was to uninstall all versions of flash, and just use Chrome for youtube or other streaming video needs. Hoping that the browser extensions didn't suddendly break, keeping them up to date etc. and reading about all the security issues was too much of a hassle. Not worth the convenience to be able to use just one browser.
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I just updated Firefox and now there is literally a half second of lag for any action I do. Tried restarting with addons disabled and that didn't fix it. Does anyone know what could cause this? If not I'll just switch to Chrome, this is unusable.
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Mozi posted:I just updated Firefox and now there is literally a half second of lag for any action I do. Tried restarting with addons disabled and that didn't fix it. Does anyone know what could cause this? If not I'll just switch to Chrome, this is unusable. Read the OP - it says how to refresh your current profile or create a new one if need be. Something's definitely wrong with your
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I did a complete reset, which helped a lot, but Chrome is so snappy it's amazing. Page scrolling in Firefox is always catching up when I use the wheel mouse, but in Chrome there's no delay at all. Not something I noticed before but I don't think I'm going back now.
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Try disabling smooth scrolling.
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I started a new profile since everything started to lag in 18, and it is back up to speed again. However the DOM inspector/editor is painfully slow. Is it slow for everyone else? Does 19 or 20 have faster development tools?
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I don't suppose there's any magic trick to make Firefox stop being such a CPU/resource hogger when it's loading a new page? It makes my music player skip and scratch every time (any music player), in extreme cases even semi-freezing the mouse cursor. I can perform intensive tasks in Photoshop or Mathematica and nothing like that happens.
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NihilCredo posted:I don't suppose there's any magic trick to make Firefox stop being such a CPU/resource hogger when it's loading a new page? It makes my music player skip and scratch every time (any music player), in extreme cases even semi-freezing the mouse cursor. I can perform intensive tasks in Photoshop or Mathematica and nothing like that happens. Have you tried a clean install with a new profile, and add-ons installed one at a time to see if one of them is at fault? The desktop I'm posting on is like five years old and I'm getting nothing like that.
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NihilCredo posted:I don't suppose there's any magic trick to make Firefox stop being such a CPU/resource hogger when it's loading a new page? It makes my music player skip and scratch every time (any music player), in extreme cases even semi-freezing the mouse cursor. I can perform intensive tasks in Photoshop or Mathematica and nothing like that happens. Adjust your player's buffering or buy better audio hardware.
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Just noticed that Mozilla is suggesting installing Flash Player 11.6 Beta along with Aurora. Granted I haven't been to the Aurora download page for a while, but I would take it as a sign that it's strongly recommended. http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashruntimes/flashplayer/
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NihilCredo posted:I don't suppose there's any magic trick to make Firefox stop being such a CPU/resource hogger when it's loading a new page? It makes my music player skip and scratch every time (any music player), in extreme cases even semi-freezing the mouse cursor. I can perform intensive tasks in Photoshop or Mathematica and nothing like that happens. In addition to what those guys said, make sure you're using the latest graphics drivers for your card. I had similar symptoms from a different piece of software that used 3D acceleration and upgrading my graphics drivers fixed it.
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I cleaned out my computer and this Firefox update is sucking up so much memory. I would rather turn it back.
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Scalding Coffee posted:I cleaned out my computer and this Firefox update is sucking up so much memory. I would rather turn it back.
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