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The rear looks awful to me, specifically the tail lights and huge black portion of plastic. Id have to see it in real life to know for sure. The rest of the car looks "fine", just like the c6 looked "fine". On the road the c6 could have quite a presence i always thought since it was just so wide and low.
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Please, corvette - be at the philly auto show coming up. I need to see you in person before decide if i like you. The 2014 looks very much like the kind of car that could look very different in person, especially with how busy it appears to be. So far i like what i see, though.
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mobby_6kl posted:I have to say that the new 'Vette looks way better than in the leaked photos. That said, the rear end with its gray plastic, quad pipes and a bunch of random shapes still looks like poo poo. The Viper's rear end, even with the cheesy CF part, is just so much cleaner and nicer to look at. The Viper looks like a car for fat balding sad depressed middle aged men whom cant get a hot blonde. The rear end is droopier than their dick. Not doing a thing for me. The 'Vette - well I expect that to have rocket launchers, machine guns and oil sprays because it's the kinda thing Condorman would drive. drat, every single new picture you guys nail up, the more I just giggle at how stupendously childish (but awesome) it is and how it's a fantasy come to life. And why if I was American I would desperatly want one. If it drives anything like it looks, I would be in fits of hysterical laughter the whole time, peeling out huge burnouts and drifting till the tyres exploded. Seriously, will it come with a missile rack?
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Hunh, so the C7 switched to a floor-hinged gas pedal. Good.Friar Zucchini posted:Well, the Mini Clubman has a split rear window, and you can get a Suburban with one too, so at least it's conceivable.
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Wait I thought the new Viper had been out for a while? I've been seeing the new ones alot farther from Chrysler headquarters than their test cars usually roam, though now that I think about it they always have manufacturer plates. They sound amazing when you sit next to them. I was sitting in a Thai place waiting for my food, looked out the window, and there were three of em in a row sitting at a stop light, and I got to see one up close at Chrysler HQ for a preview of it, but no cameras were allowed 
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Jan 14, 2013 17:00
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Quad pipes are fine just don't smush them all together.  The C7 pipes look silly IMO and they might as well add 4 more just because MOAR is BETTER! I'm kidding...sort of
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Charliegrs posted:And really, who can honestly look down upon it "only" having 450 horses? This is the BASE model! There will no doubt be a ZO6 model with god knows how many horses, and maybe even another ZR1 model. Remember, Chevy is still using what is fundamentally a very old engine design yet still seems to be extracting more and more power out of it. All the while keeping the reliability and warranty! OHV pushrod engines are a relatively modern invention (1949), at least compared to the overhead cam engine (early 1920s).
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Cat Terrist posted:The 'Vette - well I expect that to have rocket launchers, machine guns and oil sprays because it's the kinda thing Condorman would drive. drat, every single new picture you guys nail up, the more I just giggle at how stupendously childish (but awesome) it is and how it's a fantasy come to life. And why if I was American I would desperatly want one. If it drives anything like it looks, I would be in fits of hysterical laughter the whole time, peeling out huge burnouts and drifting till the tyres exploded. GM's advertising department thought the same way about the C6, except that the lawyers made them stop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D95xWahRSM Yeah, the more I see of the C7, the more I like it. I'd try to goad my dad into upgrading to finagle a deal out of him on his C6, but he had to get the damned automatic 
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Speaking of new cars, anyone else headed to NAIAS?
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movax posted:Speaking of new cars, anyone else headed to NAIAS? I got my tickets and I'm hoping to go next Monday or Tuesday with my girlfriend and her little sister  . I had to chose between going to the Wings game and the NAIAS, obviously making the best choice here.Borrowing their Nikon D3200 just for the occasion 
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Jan 14, 2013 19:28
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movax posted:Speaking of new cars, anyone else headed to NAIAS? I'll be going, probably on a weekday since I work during the weekends and the crowd doesn't seem as bad compared to Sat/Sun. e: And I just bought a new Nikon myself! Not a fancy DSLR or anything, but a reasonably nice P&S. Mental Hospitality fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Jan 14, 2013 |
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Jan 14, 2013 21:38
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The C7 looks too busy to me, but if it's all functional I can't really complain. The C2 will probably always be my favorite to look at.
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Considering they went with the Stingray moniker, I'm not surprised it looks as cartoonish as it does. To us it's a timeless classic, but when that first Stingray Vette came out, it was probably the craziest looking car you could buy. Some of the styling cues I disagree with, but overall it looks like what it is. Brutish and sharp. Between the Vette and the Viper, most exotic car companies save maybe Lamborghini have been put on notice.
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Tusen Takk posted:I got my tickets and I'm hoping to go next Monday or Tuesday with my girlfriend and her little sister Yeah, I'm going on Saturday with a few friends. Taking my humble Olympus E-500 with me, I figure its about time I learn to take proper photos.
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VikingSkull posted:Considering they went with the Stingray moniker, I'm not surprised it looks as cartoonish as it does. To us it's a timeless classic, but when that first Stingray Vette came out, it was probably the craziest looking car you could buy. Some of the styling cues I disagree with, but overall it looks like what it is. Brutish and sharp. Between the Vette and the Viper, most exotic car companies save maybe Lamborghini have been put on notice. Yah back than the Stingray was a really out there car or so I am told from the old men I have chatted with. The Stingray name on the C7 allows a clean break from the somewhat curvy and honestly 90s design of the C5 and the lineage that continued into the C6. There is a photo of the C7 next to a C2 and they do have lots in common in a cool way.
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I'm absolutely in love with the new Corvette. It looks like an Aventador and a California had a dirty back alley one night stand and this thing popped out 9 months later.
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movax posted:Speaking of new cars, anyone else headed to NAIAS? I'm going on the 26th. My best friend is now working for the agency that designed GMs entire floorplan for the show so I'm getting a single day pass.
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The part I'm loving so far is the fact that some of the old Corvette guys are pissed about this redesign while the general consensus on the track-oriented portion of rennlist was, "Not bad." Confirms why I seem to like it so much. I really, really hope the fit and finish holds up. Quick question: Did the removable roof on the C6 fit in the rear hatch?
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DerDestroyer posted:
I tend to agree that it doesn't seem very appealing vs spending a few thousand more for an actual C-class unless it's coming well equipped standard without options, but being a German luxury brand I don't have much hope for that. Least it doesn't appear to be resemble a melted bean as much as some of the earlier photos made it appear. The CLA45AMG that's supposed to be coming could be pretty great if it comes in around $45k, I'd still rather of seen the A45AMG though.
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Pr0kjayhawk posted:Quick question: Did the removable roof on the C6 fit in the rear hatch? Yes, I assume the C7 is no different right? That would be pretty silly if you couldn't take the roof with you. Edit: vv did that ever go into production or was that just for the transformers movie? Edit: Nope, guess they did offer that for 2009. davebo fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Jan 15, 2013 |
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davebo posted:Yes, I assume the C7 is no different right? That would be pretty silly if you couldn't take the roof with you. Wouldn't be the first car or first GM where you couldn't. But I would imagine it's the same. 
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For the same amount of money and on par performance I would definitely take a CL looking Benz over a regular C class. Probably their nicest line up aside from the SL class.
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ELR is here: I'm not a fan of the Volt but I think they did a nice job with the exterior styling on this. I'm not a fan of the center stack or the pigment of the wood with this kind of leather (brushed aluminum would have been a lot safer and more appropriate for a vehicle that pushes future technology as a defining feature), but so it goes.  Bob NewSCART posted:For the same amount of money and on par performance I would definitely take a CL looking Benz over a regular C class. Probably their nicest line up aside from the SL class. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose. The CLA's nose looks too big for the rest of the body to me, and its rear wheel wells don't seem appropriately proportionate to the rear quarter panel. That said, I'm not crazy about the current CLS - I think the squared nose (which I love) doesn't match the tapered/rounded rear - it's like the front of a modern Rolls with the tail of an old XJ. The CLA kind of echos that problem to me. The original CLS feels a lot more stylistically balanced to me. I do like the new A-class, though. blk fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Jan 15, 2013 |
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DerDestroyer posted:Why would anyone buy this when for slightly more/similar money you can get a C-Class or a 3 Series? It has a huge Mercedes Benz emblem on the front--that's probably reason enough for some people. I can't help looking at the CLA and thinking it's going to be the new douchebag car to replace Audis.
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blk posted:ELR is here: I'm a big fan of the Volt and I think this looks great. A little jelly-bean-y but cohesive and conservative styling. I'd absolutely DD that.
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While the C7 comes with either the 7-speed manual or a 6-speed auto, has there been any mention of when they'll be adding a dual-clutch auto option? It seems like a necessary option that all serious performance cars have these days.
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AlmightyPants posted:While the C7 comes with either the 7-speed manual or a 6-speed auto, has there been any mention of when they'll be adding a dual-clutch auto option? It seems like a necessary option that all serious performance cars have these days. I doubt it, I don't think GM has a dual clutch gearbox to use. The auto is fine for the mid life crisis buyer or person that doesn't know any better. The enthusiast is going to want the manual.
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AlmightyPants posted:While the C7 comes with either the 7-speed manual or a 6-speed auto, has there been any mention of when they'll be adding a dual-clutch auto option? It seems like a necessary option that all serious performance cars have these days. *edit* my bad, I thought you were talking twin clutch on the manual. Point still stands though. *LOL edit* Turns out GM knows how much everyone hates the square tail lights. They said they HAD to be shaped that way to allow the cooling ducts in the rear to work. Riiiiiiight. Wait for the Z51 option. It'll probably have one. What I'm curious about is the transmission as a whole. They claim it's a new transmission, but Tremec has had a 7-speed manual for a while now in medium-duty trucks. Maybe it was re-geared and re-packaged for the C7... It's all up in the air at this point and Tremec isn't talking to anyone about it. Also, naked frame time: 
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I think because the transmission is mounted in the rear by the diff the Corvette has special Tremec transmissions that aren't easily swapped with other cars.
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Devyl posted:
I was reading an article, I think it was on Car and Driver, where the design lead said that they had tried round lights but it made the car look "old".
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Devyl posted:Wait for the Z51 option. It'll probably have one. What I'm curious about is the transmission as a whole. They claim it's a new transmission, but Tremec has had a 7-speed manual for a while now in medium-duty trucks. Maybe it was re-geared and re-packaged for the C7... It's all up in the air at this point and Tremec isn't talking to anyone about it. 
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Man the C7 is absolutely gorgeous. It looks like a Lamborghini-designed Corvette to me, and I am absolutely okay with that. It makes the C6 look as soft and dumpy as the C6 made the C5 look. Yowza. I've always been a Mustang guy, but if I had to choose between a GT500 or a C7, I'd actually take the C7. I can't believe I'm even saying that.
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The Midniter posted:Man the C7 is absolutely gorgeous. It looks like a Lamborghini-designed Corvette to me, and I am absolutely okay with that. It makes the C6 look as soft and dumpy as the C6 made the C5 look. Yowza. Honestly, I would probably take the GT500 because it has 4 seats, and because I absolutely love the sound of a whirring supercharger. Downside is that GT500 has a live rear-axle and is rather heavy.
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Mr. Apollo posted:Porsche has a 7 speed manual and 7 speed dual clutch transmission in the new 911. I wonder if the 'vette is getting the same manual, ZF is the supplier for the 911 and the C7 and both are using a 7 speed transaxle.
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Muffinpox posted:I wonder if the 'vette is getting the same manual, ZF is the supplier for the 911 and the C7 and both are using a 7 speed transaxle. The 7 speed for the C7 is from Tremec. Supposedly custom-built for it.
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Tusen Takk posted:Honestly, I would probably take the GT500 because it has 4 seats, and because I absolutely love the sound of a whirring supercharger. Im waiting to see the supposedly Aston-Martin inspired redesign of the Mustang before I decide which car that I can't afford that I would get.
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Bumming Your Scene posted:Im waiting to see the supposedly Aston-Martin inspired redesign of the Mustang before I decide which car that I can't afford that I would get. Im in the same boat. I love the new corvette, but the reason I got rid of the previous vette was I just couldnt do a 2 seat car any longer. I really hope Ford ditches the retro look. If so the next mustang might be something I seriously consider.
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Muffinpox posted:I wonder if the 'vette is getting the same manual, ZF is the supplier for the 911 and the C7 and both are using a 7 speed transaxle. Is the 911 transmission really a transaxle? It's rear engined and the gearbox attaches straight to the motor, not to a torque tube, I thought.
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drgitlin posted:Is the 911 transmission really a transaxle? It's rear engined and the gearbox attaches straight to the motor, not to a torque tube, I thought. Transaxle just means it incorporates a transmission and differential in one unit. FWD boxes are transaxles as well.
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