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photomikey posted:My lexus has "real" leather seats and has heated/cooled seats, and frankly, I'd make the same move again. Are cooled seats a thing? I've never heard of such a thing.
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photomikey posted:I bought a 2010 Lexus HS 250h this weekend - paid $25k, has 25k miles on it. I should have probably come here first, but since I didn't - go ahead and tell me how bad I did. If you're happy who cares? Everyone here has different opinions. If you like it and felt like you got a good deal, just be happy with your car. BoyBlunder posted:Are cooled seats a thing? I've never heard of such a thing. Starting to be yes. Last 3 or 4 years or so. Many upper trim models of vehicles have them these days. I test drove a car that had them, nothing like air conditioned balls on a hot summer day in Texas.
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IRQ posted:Automatic though? The shitlord boss at the dealership tried to sell me a new 2012 Mazda 3 for less than 20k (before all the other costs) but it was a manual. I can't drive stick so it was a no-go. 2012 Mazda3i Touring Auto. The deals were definitely out there during the model year-end period. But from my experience the variation between dealers for a 3 was immense--like $4,000 between the lowest and highest price for the same model--so it might be worth shopping around if that's the car you want.
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Sypher posted:Proposed Budget: $5000 - $8000 Just test drove the Honda Accord. It seemed to drive pretty well. Any input on this vehicle? The only thing I noticed was a bit of a rattle on the passenger side that came and went while driving.
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Weinertron posted:Enjoy your car, but the Lexus badge is about all that the HS 250h has going for it. People do like the Lexus badge, so time may show that you made a very good decision when you sell it to a bigger idiot in 7 years for $10k. skipdogg posted:Many upper trim models of vehicles have them these days. I test drove a car that had them, nothing like air conditioned balls on a hot summer day in Texas. edit: Wow, prices for a 10 year old Lexus are around $10k. Not bad!
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Proposed Budget: ~$20,000 New or Used: Used Body Style: Coupe or Sedan How will you be using the car?: Daily driver with some track fun. What aspects are most important to you?: Good handling, a decent amount of power, and RWD preferred. Not having horrible repair costs is a secondary concern. The number one car on my list right now is the Pontiac G8 GT, with some other cars I've looked at include the BMW 335i and 135i, and various American muscle (Charger, Mustang, etc).
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Goons, your assistance please Proposed Budget: $24,000 hard limit. New or Used: New Body Style: Hatchback compact, 2 or 4 door. Very small is not a deal breaker. How will you be using the car?: Daily driver for my wife Plan to keep it for at least 5 years, provided hail doesn't take it out What aspects are most important to you? Fuel economy, reliability, fuel economy, style(Mostly in the form of loud colors from factory). Also, Bluetooth and a moon roof are pretty high up on the priority list, though not essential. She does want an automatic due to the stop and go traffic. Right now, the top of my wife's list is the Prius C, the Ford Fiesta and the Mini Cooper. None have been test driven yet. Citizen Z fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Jan 31, 2013 |
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MINIs are made in Britain and are horrifically unreliable. Unless you specifically want a tiny FWD car and you hate torsion bar rear suspension and *must* have IRS instead I'm not seeing what the point of it is.
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Throatwarbler posted:MINIs are made in Britain and are horrifically unreliable. Unless you specifically want a tiny FWD car and you hate torsion bar rear suspension and *must* have IRS instead I'm not seeing what the point of it is. She loves the way they look. That's mostly the appeal.
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Then I think you should just buy it. If she loves the looks that's good enough for me, and it's a new car with a warranty anyway so who cares about reliability.
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It's not a done deal, yet. The MINI lacks some things she wants, but she does like the look. The Prius C might not make it's ROI back for a while, but we're liberal tree hugging commies, so the hybrid thing appeals. The Fiesta just looks good on paper. I suppose more than anything, I'm wondering if there's anything in that segment that we should make sure to take a look at. Citizen Z fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Jan 31, 2013 |
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Prius C would be the top of my list. I've seen one in the Habanero color and it's pretty sharp. Should be able to get out the door for 24K nicely equipped.
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Based on your criteria, the Prius C is the way to go and it's a pretty solid drive by all accounts. Fiat 500's worth a look if you're in to colors and such. Edit: saw she wants auto. I wouldn't wish an automatic 500 on my worst enemy.
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I have heard only good things about the Ford Focus, and the 2014 model will have even more gadgets than the current model. That being said, it doesn't have nearly as much space as I personally would like, so if internal volume is a factor you might want to look somewhere else. It seems that's not a big problem for you, though.
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skipdogg posted:Starting to be yes. Last 3 or 4 years or so. Many upper trim models of vehicles have them these days. I test drove a car that had them, nothing like air conditioned balls on a hot summer day in Texas. Older than that. They had cooled seats on the 2004 Infiniti M45. Probably longer in the s class. Sole Survivor posted:Proposed Budget: ~$20,000 Maybe a mustang. They are heavy for track cars, but a lot lighter than anything else you're considering.
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Considering getting a new car this year and could use suggestions. Proposed Budget: $20k. Probably $25k hard limit if I found something amazing. New or Used: Used (certified pre-owned?) Body Style: Compact/crossover SUV How will you be using the car?: Daily driver. Usually driving alone. 50/50 highway/city driving. Fair amount of lovely winter driving (Northeast USA). What aspects are most important to you? Most important: AWD. Automatic. 30+ MPG highway. Reliability. Some power. Not physically huge. Low miles. Less important: Doesn't look like a mini-van or station wagon. Has cool gadgets like dual-zone climate control and a space shuttle center console screen. Decent cargo space. My number one requirement is AWD for winter driving. This pretty much limits me to crossover SUVs, it seems. I would consider an AWD sedan if I could find one for a good price. I've mainly been looking at the Ford Escape, Honda CR-V, Mazda CX-5.
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drat IT posted:Considering getting a new car this year and could use suggestions. For that price you could probably pick up something new. Looks to me like you're begging for a Subaru Forester. See if you can't wait a year or so and get the new one; its automatic transmission will be the same CVT that other Subarus have now, which is reputedly decent - the current four-speed is ancient. Barring that, the Impreza is cheaper, has the CVT and gets better than 30mpg highway, but less cargo space and ground clearance. Every Subaru except the BRZ has AWD, in case you were wondering.
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Friar Zucchini posted:For that price you could probably pick up something new. Looks to me like you're begging for a Subaru Forester. See if you can't wait a year or so and get the new one; its automatic transmission will be the same CVT that other Subarus have now, which is reputedly decent - the current four-speed is ancient. Barring that, the Impreza is cheaper, has the CVT and gets better than 30mpg highway, but less cargo space and ground clearance. Every Subaru except the BRZ has AWD, in case you were wondering. I test drove an XV Crosstrek and really liked it, as well. Same cargo space and MPG as the Imprezza, but more ground clearance. It's SUVish, but smaller than the forrester. $21k-ish for the lower trim level, which is the middle trim level from Europe.
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Proposed Budget:20,000 - 22000 New or Used: Used Body Style: (e.g. 2 door? 4 door? Compact/Midsize/Fullsize Sedan? Truck? SUV?) 2 Door, maybe a 4 door depending on model. How will you be using the car?: (Do you tow things? Haul more than 5 people on a regular basis? Have a super long commute? How are you going to use this vehicle? Mostly commuting to and from work 1/2hr each way right now, but could change to nearly nothing. Do you prefer a luxury vehicle with all the gizmos?) Would at least like to have bluetooth. What aspects are most important to you? (e.g. reliability, cost of ownership/maintenance, import/domestic, MPG, size, style) Looking for a sportyish DD, but something I'm not always working on. I currently drive a '02 Celica, and I am looking to get something bigger but would like to try and stay with a 2door. I have considered a 07+ legacy GT, Acura TL or more recently a V6 accord coupe. The accord is pretty much last on the list due to being the most boring, but should be the most reliable. It is also the easiest to find. Reliability is key for the most part, I am looking for something I can have for awhile and maybe buy a fun car down the road if I get a better paying job. Looking for suggestions as well, just in case I missed something out there. Edit: Forgot to add, looking for at least 250hp depending on weight of the car. Super Lube fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Feb 1, 2013 |
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Agronox posted:2012 Mazda3i Touring Auto. I'm looking for a manual myself, but what do you think of the car? I know it's what I'm getting, I'm just looking for the right price.
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drat IT posted:Considering getting a new car this year and could use suggestions. I don't really want to pass judgement on your driving or whatever, but I grew up in gently caress nowhere Northern New England where it snows about 140" a year and we drove to school uphill both ways in our lovely 2WD Ford Rangers. Unless you have a driveway that looks like the north face of the Eiger, I'd suggest a 2WD sedan of some kind (basically take your pick of the billions of good compact sedans being made today) and a few bucks for snow tires. Your car will drive better in the summer, better in the winter, you'll save money, and you'll get better gas mileage. You will also be able to avoid compact SUVs as I believe that the only small AWD sedan currently being manufactured is the Subaru Impreza, which kind of has a face for radio.
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Super Lube posted:Proposed Budget:20,000 - 22000 There is nothing wrong with the LGT or the TL. I'd throw in the G35. If you don't care about AWD/RWD, which it sounds like you don't, you're in gently used/maybe new hot hatch territory. There's always the used 3-series option. The E46 is reliable outside of a couple of known issues.
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Sole Survivor posted:Proposed Budget: ~$20,000 C5 Z06. You might be able to snag a C6 for 20k.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I don't really want to pass judgement on your driving or whatever, but I grew up in gently caress nowhere Northern New England where it snows about 140" a year and we drove to school uphill both ways in our lovely 2WD Ford Rangers. Point taken. Maybe I am overestimating the benefit of AWD. For the past 7 years I've been driving a Civic with lovely tires, and I'm fondly looking back to the performance of my old 4WD Grand Cherokee. DAMN IT fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Feb 1, 2013 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:You will also be able to avoid compact SUVs as I believe that the only small AWD sedan currently being manufactured is the Subaru Impreza, which kind of has a face for radio. Suzuki is still selling off their stock. If you're willing to gamble on long-term parts availability, you can save a few grand over an Impreza.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:You will also be able to avoid compact SUVs as I believe that the only small AWD sedan currently being manufactured is the Subaru Impreza, which kind of has a face for radio.  Jesus Christ Mitsubishi get it together with the marketing. 
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Buying a new Mitsu Lancer is like throwing money down a hole. Speaking of throwing money down a hole, Suzuki Kasashi comes in AWD and you can pick up remaining stock for pennies on the dollar. The warranty is supposedly going to be honored and Suzuki is reasonably successful in other parts of the world, so you can probably get parts from Mexico and Canada for a while. I have an acquaintance who is a Suzuki service writer (he also handles other brands but he's the one suzuki guy) and says unlike pretty much everything else that company made, it is pretty solid (the SX4 doesn't suck either). It also looks good. (Seriously, if they'd made with car with a bigger motor, a six speed, and AWD, I'd own a goddamn suzuki) However, even at a deep discount, in 4 years the resale value will be similar to a Plymouth Neon with a failed headgasket. That said, I actually like teh way the new Impreza hatch looks in person, though it looks much worse in photos. For $20k and AWD, hard to do better.
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drat IT posted:Point taken. Maybe I am overestimating the benefit of AWD. For the past 7 years I've been driving a Civic with lovely tires, and I'm fondly looking back to the performance of my old 4WD Grand Cherokee. I've bolded the part that makes a difference. It is always mind-blowing to me that people think that a differential, a couple half-shafts and a few sensors makes more of a difference in how their vehicle adheres to the road than the material that actually is in contact with the road. And holy poo poo, I did not know the Lancer was AWD as an option, and I like to think that I'm way more well informed than the average consumer.
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nm posted:Buying a new Mitsu Lancer is like throwing money down a hole. Why's this? I only ask because it's on my list of "slightly sporty 4-door with a spoiler" that I was considering in the next year or so
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its very possible, likely even, that Mitsu won't exist in the US market much longer. I dont know if thats what hes talking about but they've been 1 fiscal quarter away from being gone for a while now.
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quote:It is always mind-blowing to me that people think that a differential, a couple half-shafts and a few sensors makes more of a difference in how their vehicle adheres to the road than the material that actually is in contact with the road.  Most "AWD" cars and trucks don't even have a center differential. BaronVanAwesome posted:Why's this? I only ask because it's on my list of "slightly sporty 4-door with a spoiler" that I was considering in the next year or so Historically they've had poor resale value, however this is probably more complex than that. The Lancer is the second oldest compact car on the market at this point, first year was 2007, only the Corolla is older. It wasn't really a great car even back then - didn't drive well, the interior is pretty awful and the lovely CVT made the drive worse and also hurt highway fuel economy. One characteristic of older CVTs is that their range of ratios tends to be narrower than a convetional automatic and thus a box that got decent city fuel economy and acceleration tended to have poo poo highway fuel economy. But the main problem with Mitsubishi is really that they just don't have the scale to really get into the market, much like a lot of smaller brands like SAAB or Suzuki. The car is dated as is and tends to sell with a lot incentives and also to rental fleets which hurts the residuals, but more importantly there aren't enough Mitsubishi dealers around and thus the market for used models tends to be restricted - do you really want to own one when your town doesn't have a dealer for parts and repairs? So I think you do have to take the resale into consideration, but the flip side is that these things are always selling with incentives so you have a lower starting price. People said the same thing about GM and Ford cars in the past, yeah that Chevy Lumina has a lower resale value than a Honda Accord from the same year, but really that's only because no sane person(well, rental agency more likely) would have paid GM's MSRP for that Lumina over an Accord to begin with, so your actual depreciation probably isn't that different. Comparing resale values is a pretty difficult thing because the average consumer doesn't really have great information on actual new car transaction prices vs MSRP. On the plus side I do think the Lancer is pretty sharp looking exterior wise, and Mitsubishi does have a 5 year 100k(?) mile B2B warranty like Hyundai/Kia, so if you do have a dealer near by it might not be such a bad deal. TL;DR Seriously guys the Chevy Lumina really wasn't that bad
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The question to me is in how many years will having that Suzuki be about as serviceable as a Gremlin or Yugo (barring the obvious older cars aren't as complicated as newer cars exceptions). Any recommendations for an AWD vehicle with similar power (hell, market category) as a Subaru Forester under the $10k used range < 90k miles (I've sworn off CRVs at this point given my experience a couple years ago)? I'm struggling to come up with a viable list beyond the Suzukis mentioned and Toyota RAV-4 or a 10+ yr old Lexus RX-350. I'm trying to keep a list of viable cars in the event the '04 Forester I have gives up the ghost and it's not really worth trying to repair it any more.
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necrobobsledder posted:The question to me is in how many years will having that Suzuki be about as serviceable as a Gremlin or Yugo (barring the obvious older cars aren't as complicated as newer cars exceptions). For japanese built vehicles, quite a while. They're still being built and sold for other markets. For koreans, not long past 10 years. (Suzuki USA is still selling motorcycles and will for the forseeable futur, so required by law to provide 10 years of parts). As for the second question, a forester is the answer. Maybe a nissan murano or mazda cx whatever, but I dunno reliablity on them. Don't buy a lexus rx unless you want to look like a 50+ year old woman.
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Throatwarbler posted:
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necrobobsledder posted:The question to me is in how many years will having that Suzuki be about as serviceable as a Gremlin or Yugo (barring the obvious older cars aren't as complicated as newer cars exceptions). Ford Escape/Mazda Tribute Nissan XTerra if you want something a little tougher Uhhh Volvo XC70?
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Hello thread - I am currently looking at a 1999 Honda Civic LX with 137k miles on it. I've gotten it looked at and the issues are as follows: rack and pinion need replacing - steering fluid leaks to the tune of a bottle every week-ish dent on right rear fender scratch on right rear door dent on front rear fender lesser: due for an oil change due for tire rotation I looked up the carfax report and there have been 3 minor accidents with the car, in 2000, 2005, and 2008. The car has been driven about 60,000 miles since the last of these. The aforementioned dents are the result of them. KBB.com has this at ~2700. Does that sound right?
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Proposed Budget: Sub 10k New or Used: Used Body Style: 4 door or 2 door that works with one car seat Compact/Midsize, prefer standard but will deal with automatic How will you be using the car?: Driving 40 miles a day 5 days a week. Daily commuter What aspects are most important to you? I prefer small cars, power isn't important and really want something with above 30 MPG. Haven't bought a car in a while so I think that 30 is pretty low. I really like the mazda 3, but I don't want my aesthetics to get in the way of a good decision.
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The three is an extremely common recommendation in this thread so don't feel like there's anything wrong going that route.
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The last generation Mazda3 didn't get particularly good fuel economy for what it was. If you're driving a lot of highway miles and are pinching pennies try and find an "XFE" trim of the Chevy Colbalt. They weren't great cars in many respects but were reliable, cheap on the used market and got excellent fuel economy. A Civic HF, Corolla, or last gen Ford Focus will also get better fuel economy.
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HClChicken posted:Proposed Budget: Sub 10k As much as I love the Mazda 3, and Mazda in general, the first generation (2003-8, the ones in your price range) didn't get especially good gas mileage. The 2.0 manual is rated 24/32 and the 2.3 manual 22/30. I mean, that's still not bad gas mileage, but for the segment its in its not very competitive. Compare to the 2012+ 3 that is rated 27/39. It's still a fantastic car, and far and away the best handling and most fun car in its segment. The other thing to consider is that the marginal value of each mpg as you go up the scale becomes less and less pretty quick. If you drive the average 15,000 miles per year with $4 gas, going from 15 to 20mpg saves you $1000/yr, but 30 to 35 only $285/yr. Here, because I'm bored: 
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