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Coasterphreak posted:As far as cost:benefit ratio, it's likely safe to assume that car markets east of the former Iron Curtain operate a bit differently from those in the USA/Western Europe. There's probably a really appropriate Yakov Smirnoff styled quote for this but I'll be damned if I can think of it.
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Unibodies can't really be cut up like that, they won't deform correctly in the second accident, and grinding welds removes a lot of the strength. It'd fold like a can, probably tear apart rather than just deforming.
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Feb 13, 2013 01:26
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DJ Commie posted:Unibodies can't really be cut up like that, they won't deform correctly in the second accident, and grinding welds removes a lot of the strength. It'd fold like a can, probably tear apart rather than just deforming. Wanna see that accident. Of course I don't want people to get hurt, though, so maybe on a crash test site or something. Because that sounds awesome.
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Feb 13, 2013 01:34
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DJ Commie posted:Unibodies can't really be cut up like that, they won't deform correctly in the second accident, and grinding welds removes a lot of the strength. It'd fold like a can, probably tear apart rather than just deforming. I'm sure they welded some extra support along the frame rails. I mean, it's not like they cut corners on these projects right?
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Feb 13, 2013 02:03
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InitialDave posted:Depends what you're watching, really. The stereotype exists for a reason, but a statement like that is the equivalent of saying everyone who modifies a car is a twat because you've never seen anyone who wasn't a ricer. I'll agree with that.
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Feb 13, 2013 02:11
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Geoj posted:
my first guess would be volunteer fire department.
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Linedance posted:my first guess would be volunteer fire department. Like I said, the driver was in his 80s. He wouldn't be able to get out of his own way in the event of a fire. He might have been a retired firefighter but there's little chance he has legal authority to use them.
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Feb 13, 2013 02:19
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IOwnCalculus posted:I think red flashers like that aren't illegal to possess, but they are illegal to actually use on a public road. Illegal without permission granted by a chief or commanding officer on official letterhead, at least here in NY.
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Feb 13, 2013 03:00
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Ohio revised code 4513.17, section D:quote:Except a person operating a public safety vehicle, as defined in division (E) of section 4511.01 of the Revised Code, or a school bus, no person shall operate, move, or park upon, or permit to stand within the right-of-way of any public street or highway any vehicle or equipment that is equipped with and displaying a flashing red or a flashing combination red and white light, or an oscillating or rotating red light, or a combination red and white oscillating or rotating light; and except a public law enforcement officer, or other person sworn to enforce the criminal and traffic laws of the state, operating a public safety vehicle when on duty, no person shall operate, move, or park upon, or permit to stand within the right-of-way of any street or highway any vehicle or equipment that is equipped with, or upon which is mounted, and displaying a flashing blue or a flashing combination blue and white light, or an oscillating or rotating blue light, or a combination blue and white oscillating or rotating light. So yeah, he's technically violating the law. e: reading it again, IOC was probably right and he's OK as long as they aren't being used on a public road. Geoj fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Feb 13, 2013 |
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It depends entirely on each state's own laws....IOwnCalculus posted:I think red flashers like that aren't illegal to possess, but they are illegal to actually use on a public road. For example, in Wisconsin it is illegal to display red lenses if they face the front of the vehicle. Even if they do not illuminate, it is still illegal. Red lenses faceing rearwards are fine, but they must operate with the brake lights or hazard flashers, or in a manner similar to them. (Two red lights flashing simultaneously would be fine, but flashing right/left would be illegal).
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Feb 13, 2013 03:20
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Geoj posted:
I'm pretty sure those only activate when someone forgets 9/11.
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You guys are mean. He's a retired EMS and just wants to remind the general populace of the 911 service in town.
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Feb 13, 2013 03:54
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Maybe he's retired EMS and has Alzheimers.
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Feb 13, 2013 04:08
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The front hitch makes it looks like he plows snow or something. I could see the utility of flashing lights on top of your car when you can't see the road.
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DJ Commie posted:Unibodies can't really be cut up like that, they won't deform correctly in the second accident, and grinding welds removes a lot of the strength. It'd fold like a can, probably tear apart rather than just deforming.
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DJ Commie posted:Unibodies can't really be cut up like that, they won't deform correctly in the second accident, and grinding welds removes a lot of the strength. It'd fold like a can, probably tear apart rather than just deforming. I've seen quality salvage builds, full on section jobs done by people I trust and would have no problem driving. Those Russian guys certainly aren't that quality, but it can be done. You're right that the structural integrity will never be the same as the day it rolled off the factory floor, but it can be done to an adequate degree. Also, everyone is right on the cost/benefit thing, too. In certain places of the world, it makes sense to do such work. In the West, not so much, especially in the US where cars are exceptionally cheap to own. I've seen way worse than those Russian jobs rolling on the streets of New York, though. Sectioning a unibody is a valid repair, unfortunately 95% of those repairs are not up to the standard required due to corner cutting.
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Here's an 18 car pileup in China. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzIIFKYaQyI Corvette 
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Throatwarbler posted:Here's an 18 car pileup in China. Interesting, the only way to stop it is to get out of the car and slow approaching traffic down.
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Measly Twerp posted:Interesting, the only way to stop it is to get out of the car and slow approaching traffic down. That's what happens when a billion people have no cultural familiarity with cars and don't look anywhere but away from other vehicles.
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Feb 13, 2013 09:02
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The car that flashes its brights at 1:08 really has it figured out. "If I just flash him, he'll speed up and prevent this rear-end."
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I honestly don't get how something like that could even happen. I mean, the speeds are low enough that they wouldn't even have had to emergency brake, they could have just slowed down normally. Instead they just kinda coast into each other  Is it because they're afraid to brake, or is it something else?
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Feb 13, 2013 10:35
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It's snowing, so likely icing on the bridges.
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Living in China, and seeing how people drive here, I'm actually really surprised I'm not seeing multi-car pile ups everywhere. Not only that, I do see surprisingly few fender benders and cars with minor bodywork damage. What I do see often however are stickers on cars, lots and lots of stickers. Hello Kitty, Transformers movies and European race tracks seem to be the most popular , I have to start taking pictures of all the terrible car stuff I see in the streets.
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 I just don't understand the amount of effort involved. I mean imagine how many tanks of gas could be bought for that escort 
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Voltage posted:
It's the  Escort.
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InitialDave posted:
That car is all sorts of weird. What looks like unplated bolts, flat washers for bushings, drum brakes, copper brake lines but with modern drive axles. The hell is that thing?
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It's probably a Ford Sierra-based Caterham clone.
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KozmoNaut posted:I honestly don't get how something like that could even happen. I mean, the speeds are low enough that they wouldn't even have had to emergency brake, they could have just slowed down normally. Instead they just kinda coast into each other I love how a few times, the person out in front does slow down, and the driver behind pulls around them and speeds up only to add to the pile. It's like an ingrained reaction to having your drive delayed by anything ever at all. Then the person who did stop short gets creamed by a bus or something.
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Feb 13, 2013 18:56
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Here have a Forduar S150 
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Hello Spaceman posted:Here have a Forduar S150 I don't... I can't... really bring myself to hate this. It looks pretty cleanly done, anyway. That front on that body is really weird though.
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Farmland Park posted:Living in China, and seeing how people drive here, I'm actually really surprised I'm not seeing multi-car pile ups everywhere. Not only that, I do see surprisingly few fender benders and cars with minor bodywork damage. What I do see often however are stickers on cars, lots and lots of stickers. Hello Kitty, Transformers movies and European race tracks seem to be the most popular Please do. Everything I know about cars in China I learned from JuanChai's thread, so I had just assumed they all drove Lamborghinis.
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davebo posted:Please do. Everything I know about cars in China I learned from JuanChai's thread, so I had just assumed they all drove Lamborghinis. Hong Kong is not the mainland 
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Octopus Magic posted:Hong Kong is not the mainland
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InitialDave posted:If I had my way, it wouldn't even be China. Agreed.
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Hello Spaceman posted:Here have a Forduar S150 Years ago I saw this same idea done with a F150 of similar vintage and a W210 E-class front end. It was bizarre, and yet remarkably well done.
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Along the same lines,  A Tianjing Xiali N3, which I think is some kind of licensed copy of the Daihatsu Charade, with the front and rear end of a Toyota Mark X. What it originally looked like  What they were going for  Remarkably clean and well done, and unlike the others, everything is properly scaled down.
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Octopus Magic posted:Hong Kong is not the mainland Feh, it will be in 2047. I'm just forward-thinking.
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Code Jockey posted:I don't... I can't... really bring myself to hate this. It looks pretty cleanly done, anyway. Until you guys started talking about Benzes I thought that was a Hyundai front fascia
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Snowdens Secret posted:Until you guys started talking about Benzes I thought that was a Hyundai front fascia Isn't it a Jaguar!? 
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