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Behold, my first time on a track (not counting go karts) - Formula Ford with a 1600cc Kent engine. So much fun. I regret not pushing a little harder, but a) you have to pay for any crash damage, and b) they'll kick you out if you spin more than twice, iirc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9X2FNGXFXw
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U16mK9UdsMw In my search for absurdly loud and pointless exhausts, this may be the angriest vehicle I've found to date.
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Smirk posted:Behold, my first time on a track (not counting go karts) - Formula Ford with a 1600cc Kent engine. So much fun. I regret not pushing a little harder, but a) you have to pay for any crash damage, and b) they'll kick you out if you spin more than twice, iirc. That's an awesome first thing to drive on a track. Does the insanely quick steering feel as weird as I'm imagining it does?
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Hypnolobster posted:That's an awesome first thing to drive on a track. Does the insanely quick steering feel as weird as I'm imagining it does? It didn't feel weird at all, maybe because I didn't have any particular preconceptions. I did like the directness and weight of it, and even the thickness of the steering wheel was just right for my somewhat small hands.
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Kill-9 posted:I bashed them big time when they cancelled all those days. The problem is that there's [i]just[/] enough demand from the people with lots of cash at that 'rape you in the rear end' price that they have no reason to change. They can say 'hey, it's open to anyone that wants to pay the going rate'. I can't justify ever paying $2K+ plus consumables for a track day. I know very few people that can. It's cheaper to drive faster than safe on public streets(I never would. Street racing is stupid.) and pay the tickets. COTA got a nice tax subsidy. Should be a law that they have to open the track to the public for a reasonable fee. The Ring only costs something like 25 euro for a lap, and it's at least 4 times the length of COTA. Why can't we have nice things like affordable public-access racing tracks in the USA?
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Feb 9, 2013 09:28
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It's so dangerous! THINK OF THE CHILDREN
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Feb 9, 2013 10:19
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Abominable! posted:Does anyone have an alternate link to this? Seems it's been removed. Thanks Axis of Oversteer! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkNZSR8d4UM Also Facebook thread for this video : https://www.facebook.com/AxisOfOversteer/posts/159194670898146 Smirk posted:Behold, my first time on a track (not counting go karts) - Formula Ford with a 1600cc Kent engine. So much fun. I regret not pushing a little harder, but a) you have to pay for any crash damage, and b) they'll kick you out if you spin more than twice, iirc. Awesome, you've instantly exceeded COTA guy's skill level. I've actually been trying to find out. Are the transmissions in those simple push / pull to shift or do you need to rev match your shifts while the car is in neutral? Aurune fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Feb 9, 2013 |
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Feb 9, 2013 13:37
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Abominable! posted:Edit; THANKS FOR THE GOOD TIMES RUSSIA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLAedyk-llc&t=4m47s Dude at 20s is dead is hell and had enough time to realize it was going to happen.
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Im so thrilled that Russia's complete internet presence is becoming quickly split between dash cam horrors and armature pornography.
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Aurune posted:Awesome, you've instantly exceeded COTA guy's skill level. I've actually been trying to find out. Are the transmissions in those simple push / pull to shift or do you need to rev match your shifts while the car is in neutral? It's a H-pattern shifter, I think with straight cut gears. Our car's 'engineer' mentioned that their race drivers usually only use the clutch on downshifts, but we're instructed to use the clutch whenever shifting, presumably for mechanical longevity. They actually recommend just leaving the car in 3rd for the whole lap so that you can concentrate on braking and turning, but what fun would that be? You don't need to rev match, but a blip of throttle on downshifts is recommended, as otherwise it loads up the rear wheels and unsettles the rear. I didn't have time to experiment with heel and toe, so all of my downshifts were fairly dodgy, but it didn't matter since I wasn't braking very hard. My wife is half-Russian, and I'm dreading if/when we ever have to go to Russia to visit her relatives - I'm pretty much imagining it'll be like this.
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Smirk posted:It's a H-pattern shifter, I think with straight cut gears. Our car's 'engineer' mentioned that their race drivers usually only use the clutch on downshifts, but we're instructed to use the clutch whenever shifting, presumably for mechanical longevity. They actually recommend just leaving the car in 3rd for the whole lap so that you can concentrate on braking and turning, but what fun would that be? You don't need to rev match, but a blip of throttle on downshifts is recommended, as otherwise it loads up the rear wheels and unsettles the rear. I didn't have time to experiment with heel and toe, so all of my downshifts were fairly dodgy, but it didn't matter since I wasn't braking very hard. Did the car not idle well enough to the point that you had to heel-toe to shift from N into 1st to prevent the motor from stalling out? I remember that being so weird and a huge pain in the Formula Mazda I drove. But the tight shifter with dog teeth was so awesome to use. It makes you realize how compromised a road car driving on track can be.
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kimbo305 posted:Did the car not idle well enough to the point that you had to heel-toe to shift from N into 1st to prevent the motor from stalling out? I remember that being so weird and a huge pain in the Formula Mazda I drove. It certainly needed revs to get moving, I came pretty close to stalling it both times I left pit lane, but it idled just fine. That does remind me of one thing - the engine uses carbs and lurched horribly at low revs, but that was only an issue on the sighting laps when I was stuck behind the other car going at a snail's pace.
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Smirk posted:It certainly needed revs to get moving, I came pretty close to stalling it both times I left pit lane, but it idled just fine. That does remind me of one thing - the engine uses carbs and lurched horribly at low revs, but that was only an issue on the sighting laps when I was stuck behind the other car going at a snail's pace. They're probably really high-strung, since they're designed for high revs and full throttle most of the time. How many horsepower do they have? I assume the old Kent engine is not used for actual Formula Ford racing, but only for track days and the like? Apparently the new standard engine (for racing) is an ecoboost with 165hp and a sequential gearbox. Neat! KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Feb 10, 2013 |
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Freiburger, Finnegan, a Caprice 9C1 and a Crown Vic Interceptor P71 Roadkill is the greatest.
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The accuracy of the following information is subject to my recollection of conversations on the day, and a whole lot of Googling: They're older cars but they are still raced - one of the selling points for the experience is that it's the only one around that uses an actual race car - that's probably not strictly true, but you get the idea. There are separate classes for Kent and Fiesta powered cars. I'm not certain whether Fiesta means Zetec or Duratec. Kent makes around 100bhp, while Fiesta makes 125bhp.
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http://youtu.be/ZcjpXbMiCtg A lovely rx7. 
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BigHouseOfBooty posted:http://youtu.be/ZcjpXbMiCtg Holy poo poo, what a hot mess. edit: oh hwow theres an actual multimeter on the dash
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BigHouseOfBooty posted:http://youtu.be/ZcjpXbMiCtg The battery tie-down. I love this car.
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BigHouseOfBooty posted:http://youtu.be/ZcjpXbMiCtg  he says it perfectly at here everything about that thing owns
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Pretty old but I've never seen it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn5aSgv4Hp8 Comedian gives out tickets for personalized plates
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Tekne posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U16mK9UdsMw In my search for absurdly loud and pointless exhausts, this may be the angriest vehicle I've found to date. Holy gently caress.  Although sounding completely different, it reminds me of that video that popped up last year of that Aventador startup in a shop or class (can't remember which).
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Feb 13, 2013 03:27
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Just. Ow. How can anyone think this was a good idea? You know they know about YouTube and had to have seen this kind of thing before. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvAHDd-LnPQ
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Feb 13, 2013 19:48
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Worse than that, it looks like it's an FJ40 they've ruined.
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The 2013 ALMS teams are doing their winter testing for the upcoming Sebring race. I'd imagine this is the best free entertainment around for local motorheads http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai4gZvea6nU
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Tekne posted:The 2013 ALMS teams are doing their winter testing for the upcoming Sebring race. I'd imagine this is the best free entertainment around for local motorheads My god those vipers sound delightful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNOMQOonntU
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angryhampster posted:My god those vipers sound delightful. I remember a review of the SRT-10 Ram a while back where the author described the Viper's exhaust note as "Trombone-like". Still an apt description, pops into my head every time I hear one. It's certainly the only V10 I know of that sounds like that.
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Fucknag posted:I remember a review of the SRT-10 Ram a while back where the author described the Viper's exhaust note as "Trombone-like". Still an apt description, pops into my head every time I hear one. It's certainly the only V10 I know of that sounds like that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llm1FpQOY48
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Fucknag posted:I remember a review of the SRT-10 Ram a while back where the author described the Viper's exhaust note as "Trombone-like". Still an apt description, pops into my head every time I hear one. It's certainly the only V10 I know of that sounds like that.  There's no car or dyno videos  , but here's a flyby of a P51 with the Falconer engine.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBslOEg44e8
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That reminds me, word is that when Chrysler sent their upcoming Magnum V10 over to Lamborghini (which they owned at the time) to rework it for the Viper, the development team wanted to make it DOHC, 4-valve in addition to changing it to aluminum. Higher-ups said no, but we can imagine what could have been. 
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Tekne posted:That unique sound is almost certainly because it's still a humongous pushrod engine, which makes me wonder what an OHV V12 would sound like. Some have been made for the hotrod scene: Why would it sound any different from any other V12 engine? Being OHV doesn't change the firing order or the exhaust routing.
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Fucknag posted:That reminds me, word is that when Chrysler sent their upcoming Magnum V10 over to Lamborghini (which they owned at the time) to rework it for the Viper, the development team wanted to make it DOHC, 4-valve in addition to changing it to aluminum. Higher-ups said no, but we can imagine what could have been. On a random note, we wouldn't have 6 to 7 second, 3000hp drag monsters roaming the streets if Chrysler went with the DOHC proposition. Undeground Racing has to rebuild Ferrari and Lambo engines for lower compression before they even think of adding boost. Speaking of forced induction, here's an awesome sounding twin charged Viper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBbrVbEhMB4 Throatwarbler posted:Why would it sound any different from any other V12 engine? Being OHV doesn't change the firing order or the exhaust routing.
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Tekne posted:My guess for the Gen VI's engine, assuming it stays a V10, is the addition of multiair valve control and direct injection. Those additions will put it around or over 700hp while keeping the naturally aspirated character the enthusiasts like. It already has multiair valves in the latest Viper, it's one of the things that Fiat put on the table and SRT basically said "GIMME!".
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KozmoNaut posted:It already has multiair valves in the latest Viper, it's one of the things that Fiat put on the table and SRT basically said "GIMME!". What? No it doesn't.
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Throatwarbler posted:What? No it doesn't. Every single teaser, press release, article and review I've read about the Viper mentions multiair.
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Goddamn you Chris Harris having all sorts of fun that I want to have as well  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2zGYu-l7t0
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real_scud posted:Goddamn you Chris Harris having all sorts of fun that I want to have as well Any RWD car on packed snow is awesome. I can easily get sideways with full opposite lock at will even with my v6 mustang with all seasons and an open diff. Its so controllable you can drive down most straight roads sideways for the entire strech of the road if you wanted. I wish road crews around here didnt work so fast after a big snow. Grip levels on packed snow is consistent but when the road crews come by they spray salt poo poo everywhere and push the snow around which create spots of wet asphalt, slush, snow, ice. The levels of grip are inconsistent after they go though. Its far more dangerous than having snow everywhere. Ive been watching the National Weather Services web site like a hawk in high hopes all winter. We only had one blizzard come though here in December which dumped ~5 inches on us in a day. There has been snow since then but its all been comparatively light dustings which make slush and ice everywhere.
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KozmoNaut posted:Every single teaser, press release, article and review I've read about the Viper mentions multiair.
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Tekne posted:They wanted to add it, but Ralph indicated that the multiair heads would've made the engine too wide or tall (don't remember which exactly) for the current engine bay. Wasn't that just overhead cams, like Lamborghini originally wanted to add, but were told it was too expensive? I was under the impression that they could still add multiair, even with the in-block cam.
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Megafactories Tesla Model S https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUgDcA1pZAM
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KozmoNaut posted:Wasn't that just overhead cams, like Lamborghini originally wanted to add, but were told it was too expensive? MultiAir is basically VVT + VVL for the intake side. While it could be combined with an in-block cam for the exhaust that wouldn't make much sense, MultiAir heads are about as large as a normal DOHC head, if they went with an in-block cam because there isn't enough space for DOHC there wouldn't be enough space for the MultiAir head either. And the lack of space sounds like the only reason to go with an in-block cam these days. Why bother with a relatively heavy and high-friction system like pushrods, if there is the possibility of using OHC?
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