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Chapter 42 is out on mangareader: http://www.mangareader.net/shingeki-no-kyojin/42 It's uh, quite something alright 
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The gently caress just happened?
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Feb 13, 2013 21:22
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Ok, after reading the chapter I'm fine with this. It doesn't look like Bernholt, Ryner and Annie's actions are necessarily representative of all human-titans. They were kids when they broke the wall, and were likely raised hating humans. Something cool, This Guy called it a year ago. Provides a bunch of foreshadowing too. RatHat fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Feb 13, 2013 |
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Feb 13, 2013 21:26
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I'm just going to assume everyone except the three main characters are Titan spies from here on out.
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Feb 13, 2013 21:31
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Possibly. They may have gotten wind of Eren's dad's experiments, which would explain why Eren going back would resolve the crisis. People in the wall having access to human titans could be the threat that they were ordered to react to.
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Feb 13, 2013 21:38
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I dunno why this seems to have come as such a shock to everyone. Bertholdt and Reiner being titans was foreshadowed far more than Ymir was, especially after Annie (who was noticeably cool to everyone except them) was outed as one.
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Feb 13, 2013 21:41
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Wandering Knitter posted:I'm just going to assume everyone except the three main characters are Titan spies from here on out. I don't know, I think these three were all at least a little built up. Reiner grabbing that Titan seemed inconsistent to me, but thinking about it if he'd just jumped out the tower he could have gotten away easily. Also, Mikasa is goddamn brutal. Really looking forward to the next chapter. The page with the actual revelation, and Eren's initial (lack of) reaction were kind of offputting though. It's kind of interesting that Reiner and Bertholdt's flashback had Ymir attacking their family/village. Hallgerd fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Feb 13, 2013 |
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Feb 13, 2013 21:41
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RatHat posted:Ok, after reading the chapter I'm fine with this. There's a huge amount of discussion in this very thread talking about that, too.
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Feb 13, 2013 21:44
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No.  I'm glad some things were cleared up, but drat.Mikasa is still as  as ever.e: Wow, reading that thread, I had forgotten half of those things had happened. The month long gap between chapters has not been good for my memory. Mecca-Benghazi fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Feb 13, 2013 |
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Feb 13, 2013 21:45
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AnonSpore posted:There's a huge amount of discussion in this very thread talking about that, too. I was more amazed by him being accurate to even what titans they were. We all knew Ryner and Bernholt were suspicious.
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Feb 13, 2013 21:53
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That... was possibly the best way to reveal that. A tiny speech bubble out of nowhere in the background of another panel. It really drives home how totally insane the whole situation is. I have to say, I'm not sure how I feel about the attack being the work of a few meddling kids. On the one hand, that probably explains why they hadn't thought through the consequences. But on the other hand, it's probably still just a plot by a larger organization. I'd guess that they only recently figured out how to make human titans, from birth, which is why they're all the same age. Including Eren. I still badly want to know their motive... what could excuse killing off half of humanity. Or all of it, eventually. What else is there?
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Feb 13, 2013 22:26
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Eiba posted:That... was possibly the best way to reveal that. A tiny speech bubble out of nowhere in the background of another panel. It really drives home how totally insane the whole situation is. I was definitely struck by how it was presented. I read the page and had to go back again and look at it and really pay attention to what was just said. I had glossed it over, because it was such a critical thing but it was so nonchalantly deposited in the back! This manga does such great things with its presentation.
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Feb 13, 2013 22:42
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Well gently caress That's was very casual and sudden way of giving up such a huge revelation, and right after two other important (but not so much after that) revelations in a 3 chapter battle. Its loving insane. That was the point when they were going back home to safety to question Ymir (I knew she wanst dead) and Historia and ponder on the amazing things that had just happened, and then we were going to find some new facts and a lot of new mysteries and then the story would go slower for a bit before the next huge fact. Well, that's what I was expecting, but no time to breathe here. It was loving incredible but also a bit disappointing, it kinda feels like the story is being rushed. EDIT: gently caress this "flagada" guy from mangafox, how come he was so completely right? And how come nobody else ever noticed that Reiner looks exactly like the Armored titan?? Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Feb 13, 2013 |
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Feb 13, 2013 22:44
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That was amazing dropping the revelation in a small bubble in the corner was such a great way of doing it. It pretty gives you the same mental skip that you would if you heard that in real life. It takes you a second to actually understand what they were saying. Also how can this manga be so well foreshadowed, and not drawn out? Every plot twist comes at the perfect time.
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Feb 13, 2013 23:16
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Cake Attack posted:That was amazing dropping the revelation in a small bubble in the corner was such a great way of doing it. It pretty gives you the same mental skip that you would if you heard that in real life. It takes you a second to actually understand what they were saying.
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Feb 13, 2013 23:30
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Yea that was insane. I had to re-read that part a few times. I love how this story just keeps going. But at this point I do hope we'll get some more actual information about their motives soon. This rollercoaster ride is fun and all but I do want at least some answers at this point.
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Feb 13, 2013 23:52
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Ha ha, and here I thought that Ymir's last stand was the climax of this arc.
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Feb 13, 2013 23:55
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I hope Ymir wakes up and they have a battle royale, Eren and Ymir on one side with Reiner and Bertholdt on the other side.
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Feb 13, 2013 23:58
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Elias_Maluco posted:Well gently caress I thought that was part and parcel of the Reiner and Bertholdt are titans theory. If anything, Bertholdt being the colossal titan was much less obvious.
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Feb 14, 2013 00:07
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It's a bit scary that it doesn't seem to be a big deal that Bernholt's titan form is so big. Makes me think there may be more people in his village that can turn into titans that big as well, perhaps even bigger.
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Feb 14, 2013 00:15
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AnonSpore posted:I thought that was part and parcel of the Reiner and Bertholdt are titans theory. If anything, Bertholdt being the colossal titan was much less obvious. I know I never noticed that (which is completely evident when you look at then one after the other), so it blew my mind when I saw it now. Actually, I never noticed any of the hints this guy found, but they all make sense and most of then are pretty obvious. So I guess Im feeling a little stupid. EDIT: RatHat posted:It's a bit scary that it doesn't seem to be a big deal that Bernholt's titan form is so big. Makes me think there may be more people in his village that can turn into titans that big as well, perhaps even bigger. Now Im starting to think that when they talk about "our village" they are actually talking about the place the human-titans live or gather Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Feb 14, 2013 |
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Feb 14, 2013 00:16
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Wasn't Ymir healing? Smoke coming from her wounds and all?
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Feb 14, 2013 00:19
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Got to page 13, started laughing hysterically, almost closed the page right there. Jesus, that was...not a well-dropped bombshell. edit: alright, reading the rest of it, I'm okay with the way it was handled. Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Feb 14, 2013 |
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Feb 14, 2013 00:48
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I don't know, I feel Mikasa's face has all of the reaction needed right in the panel.
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Feb 14, 2013 00:50
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I love how loving wild Eren's titan looks compared to theirs. Like pure rage.
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Feb 14, 2013 00:55
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RatHat posted:I was more amazed by him being accurate to even what titans they were. We all knew Ryner and Bernholt were suspicious.
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Feb 14, 2013 01:04
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That scene where Reiner 'escaped' from Annie and then started healing seems so blatant in hindsight. He even holds Armin so that he can't see it! I was confused at first due to the inner monologue, but that was all Jean.
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Feb 14, 2013 01:12
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Well, I didn't see that coming.
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Feb 14, 2013 02:03
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What are peoples thoughts on the reveal that there are titans who can dig underground tunnnels? If such titans exist and can dig under the walls, then why did the titan's need to breach the outer most walls, at all?
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Feb 14, 2013 03:09
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Wasn't that just people speculating?
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Feb 14, 2013 03:12
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Schwarzwald posted:What are peoples thoughts on the reveal that there are titans who can dig underground tunnnels? That was just them speculating how the titans got in if not through the wall. I still think it's obvious the hairy titan is going around transforming people somehow. EDIT: So on Page 14 Ryner says "Our objective was to wipe out all the humans within the wall." Could someone who knows Japanese read the raw and see if he does actually specify the humans within the wall? Because that would imply there are humans OUTSIDE the wall, which Ryner and Bertholdt probably came from. RatHat fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Feb 14, 2013 |
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Feb 14, 2013 03:16
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Schwarzwald posted:What are peoples thoughts on the reveal that there are titans who can dig underground tunnnels? They are functioning under the assumption that a major titan incursion must have come from outside. If the wall hasn't been breached, that must mean they bypassed it. Titans could dig tunnels if they were organized and intelligent, and even if some irregular titan could go over the walls that wouldn't explain the regular ones that were present. Even with Eren and the rest, no one ever considers that regular titans are somehow related to humans.
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Feb 14, 2013 03:18
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Ya they were just throwing ideas around for how their could be titans inside the wall with no breach.
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Feb 14, 2013 03:27
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I'm guessing the tunnel thing was something that had been discussed as a worst-case scenario in the past, though. There really is nothing physically preventing titans from doing just that.
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Feb 14, 2013 03:30
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The way they said it, it seemed to me that they already knew that some titan's could make underground tunnels, and it was just a case of those types having not attacked yet.
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Feb 14, 2013 03:32
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RatHat posted:That was just them speculating how the titans got in if not through the wall. I still think it's obvious the hairy titan is going around transforming people somehow. The fact that there are humans outside the wall is pretty plainly obvious. It's where Ryner and Bertholdt came from, it's the village they referred to, and the reason they want Eren to go with them is probably to say "There are titans inside the wall too, just like us. Maybe we don't have to be racist shitheads and holocaust an entire society now that we know they aren't that different"
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Feb 14, 2013 03:36
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Newfork posted:I was definitely struck by how it was presented. I read the page and had to go back again and look at it and really pay attention to what was just said. I had glossed it over, because it was such a critical thing but it was so nonchalantly deposited in the back! This manga does such great things with its presentation. It really liked how it was done and I actually said "what the gently caress!" out loud (and then started laughing at myself for swearing at a comic book). I wasn't surprised that those two ended up being titans, I was sure shocked to find out that they were those particular titans though.
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Feb 14, 2013 03:45
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Serious Frolicking posted:I'm guessing the tunnel thing was something that had been discussed as a worst-case scenario in the past, though. There really is nothing physically preventing titans from doing just that.
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Feb 14, 2013 03:53
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They don't immediately shut down. So long as they don't linger there for days or try to heal underground they'd be fine.
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Sindai posted:Yes there is. They shut down without sunlight, remember. Not immediately, and they could start digging right next to the wall. If they switched out every so often and only dug during the day they would be fine. None of that is normal titan behavior, but they are physically capable of doing so.
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