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Veins McGee posted:
Oh yeah these are legit.  My old company's supply sgt.
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Those are amazing, I just noticed the SUPPLY SUPPLY SUPPLY SUPPLY SUPPLY SUPPLY SUPPLY SUPPLY SUPPLY SUPPLY SUPPLY SUPPLY SUPPLY SUPPLY in the background
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Here's we see some Syrian opposition fighters sneak up behind a tank, then send in a guy to drop a grenade into it. Slighty  for obvious reasonshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yck3EZeyOD0
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Brown Moses posted:Here's we see some Syrian opposition fighters sneak up behind a tank, then send in a guy to drop a grenade into it. Slighty All the suggestions for viewing after were Harlem Shake videos
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Brown Moses posted:Here's we see some Syrian opposition fighters sneak up behind a tank, then send in a guy to drop a grenade into it. Slighty Did the grenade explode? I saw two guys jump out of the tank and run away from the camera.
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Ron Jeremy posted:Did the grenade explode? I saw two guys jump out of the tank and run away from the camera. I'm not sure it did, free tank I guess.
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Brown Moses posted:I'm not sure it did, free tank I guess. E: nm, I was mistaken.
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Brown Moses posted:Here's we see some Syrian opposition fighters sneak up behind a tank, then send in a guy to drop a grenade into it. Slighty This is why you support tanks with infantry. How many times are people going to have to learn that lesson the hard way? Though I think that tank was already disabled? It just sat there as the rebels shot at it for some reason.
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Brown Moses posted:I'm not sure it did, free tank I guess.
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Military Working Dogs! puppypuppypuppy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEo2afOy-5I
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Can you US fellas answer me this, does the Garand below have its bolt in?
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Here's Jabhat al-Nusra using a claimed 50 IEDs to attack a convoy in Syria https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mcQrU-zv84
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Limp Wristed Limey posted:Can you US fellas answer me this, does the Garand below have its bolt in? I can't say with certainty from that picture alone because if the bolt is in it is locked back (which is why you can't see it and why you can see the follower where the bolt would be if it was forward; also the charging handle is locked to the rear), but I would be shocked if it wasn't in since it would look rather funny when the bolt was supposed to be forward, which would be most of the time. I'm not familiar with the M1 manual of arms, but I would imagine the Marine in the picture is performing something like inspection arms, which is why he has the bolt locked back. Generally speaking with drill rifles they leave the bolt installed but snip the firing pin/otherwise render it inoperable and plug the barrel.
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Brown Moses posted:Here's Jabhat al-Nusra using a claimed 50 IEDs to attack a convoy in Syria It's a bit scary how media savvy this Salafist group is getting. Also I guess they're not afraid of a follow up air strike on the convoy's wreckage. Given how eager these guys always are to admire their handiwork they seem like an easy target.
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iyaayas01 posted:I can't say with certainty from that picture alone because if the bolt is in it is locked back (which is why you can't see it and why you can see the follower where the bolt would be if it was forward; also the charging handle is locked to the rear), but I would be shocked if it wasn't in since it would look rather funny when the bolt was supposed to be forward, which would be most of the time. I'm not familiar with the M1 manual of arms, but I would imagine the Marine in the picture is performing something like inspection arms, which is why he has the bolt locked back. Okay thanks for that, I am specifically looking for pictures of marines with no bolts in their Garands. I have not had much look so far though.
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Limp Wristed Limey posted:Okay thanks for that, I am specifically looking for pictures of marines with no bolts in their Garands. I have not had much look so far though. Specifically Marines, or just a Garand w/no bolt? I can take out mine tomorrow if that's good enough, but I don't think you're going to find any kind of "action" shot with a visibly removed bolt. Even high school drill Garands have their bolts. I think the bolt is in place in that picture...I think I can see the edge of it, but it could just be the ramp underneath. I can't remember exactly how far back it locks. And yes, that's an inspection as mentioned. Edit: As I sit here and think about it, you won't find such a picture. Without the bolt, the mechanism won't function; it won't lock open.
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What kind of casualties would that convoy take? I saw a lot of soft-skinned vehicles, so right off the bat that's a few casualties. I expect that the rebels would have moved to assault immediately after, or at least fired on the convoy. Since they were filming the wreckage, they obviously secured the site, which leads me to think that the Syrian army was unwilling or unable to counterattack.
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Can someone sum up this whole Syrian conflict in a couple sentences in a non-GBS way? Whose side are we on again? I thought at first it was like "yeah, rebel! You're oppressed!" But?
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Christoff posted:Can someone sum up this whole Syrian conflict in a couple sentences in a non-GBS way? Whose side are we on again? I thought at first it was like "yeah, rebel! You're oppressed!" But? Arab spring hits Syria, Syrian dictator (Assad) responds with brutal crackdown, and a bloody civil war ensues with many atrocities committed. The opposition has been on the receiving side of most of the atrocities, and Assad is almost universally considered the bad guy. US is firmly on the side of the Syrian opposition, and formally recognized the Syrian Opposition Council as the legitimate government of Syria, and has provided a lot of non-military aid to help stem the humanitarian crisis. Russia has a base in Syria and a vested interest in Assad not falling and hasn't let the UN do much, either. Add to this that a significant chunk of the opposition are muslim extremists, and US has gone as far to label some of the opposition as terrorists, and it gets really murky. TLDR: it's OK to cheer for the opposition. grover fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Feb 17, 2013 |
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grover posted:20 second oversimplification: Just to add to that, as the conflict has gone on Jihadists from across the globe have headed to Syria and Jihadists groups like Jabhat al-Nusra (with linked to Al-Qaeda in Iraq) have become increasingly powerful. There's also elements of Kurdish separatism in the north of the country that's also make things increasingly complex. Basically the whole thing is a terrible mess with almost every realistic outcome being terrible for Syria and the region.
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So, if we were to go there for whatever reason. Exactly what side would we be on? Or would it just be "peacekeeping?" Not trying to derail this thread I'm just confused as to where we're "supposed" to stand. So it went from "Hell yeah rebel!" To "oh this is going a bit far, we don't like that religion and those dudes, nevermind" Content - 
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We want the opposition to win because Assad and everyone he's associated with is a bastard. But 'the opposition' is actually a whole mess of different groups, most ethnic based, some ideology based, some of which are relatively OK, some of which are worse bastards than Assad / pretty much Al Qaeda or however you think of these things. Most of them are also very excited about killing each other when the government isn't around - Libya's an even bigger ethnic clash mess than Iraq is. None of them are in any shape to run the country or even keep it one piece when Assad falls. We're not getting officially involved because a) QUAGMIRE b) we can't pick allies for poo poo and don't want to help/arm guys who just turn around and blow up Americans. Also the Russians have commitments with Assad because they have a base there and the less we get involved the less they have to. Depending on the ethnic groups we ally with/against it also affects Iraq, Turkey, Lebanon etc so it's not contained within current Syrian borders. Oh, and there are chemical weapons, advanced MANPADS and all other sorts of fun stuff wandering around that'll end up on the black market sooner or later. Meanwhile the ratio of guys we like / extremists drops every day, and the people think after all our fluffy speeches that the Americans have abandoned them, which in the loopy logic of the Arab world turns into we have some deal with Assad or some poo poo which is going to do wonders for diplomacy down the line. So it's basically like Libya, only the stakes are higher because of the location, and we got burned real bad on Libya so now we're not touching the oven at all
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Snowdens Secret posted:We want the opposition to win because Assad and everyone he's associated with is a bastard. But 'the opposition' is actually a whole mess of different groups, most ethnic based, some ideology based, some of which are relatively OK, some of which are worse bastards than Assad / pretty much Al Qaeda or however you think of these things. Most of them are also very excited about killing each other when the government isn't around - Libya's an even bigger ethnic clash mess than Iraq is. None of them are in any shape to run the country or even keep it one piece when Assad falls. We're not getting officially involved because a) QUAGMIRE b) we can't pick allies for poo poo and don't want to help/arm guys who just turn around and blow up Americans. Also the Russians have commitments with Assad because they have a base there and the less we get involved the less they have to. Depending on the ethnic groups we ally with/against it also affects Iraq, Turkey, Lebanon etc so it's not contained within current Syrian borders. What's really lovely is that we didn't get burned in Libya. We helped pretty much the right people and they are more pro-Western than they might have been otherwise. However anti-interventionist and anti-Obama factions have done their best to convince us that Libya is now an Al Qaeda Muslim Brotherhood America Hatopia. Libya is probably the best foreign military intervention we've done since Kosovo but that doesn't agree with everyone's politics. e: pictures thread 
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Here's some young people in Syria playing a game where they pretend to be firing a mortar, only using live cluster munitions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdM4nUf05do
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Stultus Maximus posted:Libya is probably the best foreign military intervention we've done since Kosovo but that doesn't agree with everyone's politics. And Kosovo was (and is) a loving mess, so all that really is saying is that our interventions over the past decade have been loving retarded. Even though it was a "good" intervention, Libya is still having (and will continue to have for many years) major second and third order effects...the issues in Mali right now? Some of that can be directly traced to Libya, specifically the proliferation of arms across the Maghreb.  Mirage 2000Ds on their way to N'Djamena.
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Brown Moses posted:Here's some young people in Syria playing a game where they pretend to be firing a mortar, only using live cluster munitions There is no loving way.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:There is no loving way.
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grover posted:Please please tell me those were disarmed with the explosives removed... The fuze is still present, and judging by the hundreds of videos I've collected so far they don't consider them a danger.
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Worst part is the little boy getting involved and the kids in the background shouting every time they hang a round. Teach 'em young. 
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Brown Moses posted:Here's Jabhat al-Nusra using a claimed 50 IEDs to attack a convoy in Syria Civ desk jockey here, but the aftermath doesn't seem like it's from the same area to me. Pre-ambush there's visible buildings and trees, and the horizon is a treeline. It also looks like they're driving along a dyke or road. The aftermath looks like it's in the middle of nowhere. Also the IED shot looks like something Hollywood rigged up. E: Watched it a few more times, and there are a couple small buildings in the background. And the first blowed up wreck they show has a graphic on the side that matches one of the vehicles in the column. Weird. It still feels off, but maybe that's just me. Wombot fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Feb 18, 2013 |
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Veins McGee posted:
Well holy poo poo. Yeah, that's what would happen. That's so loving dumb. no way those enlisted dudes make enough money to buy ammo in this loving market
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Godholio posted:Well holy poo poo. Yeah, that's what would happen. That's so loving dumb. no way those enlisted dudes make enough money to buy ammo in this loving market It seems kind of dumb unless they also take the bolt out during the Evening Parade(I assume the President goes to one or two of those a year).
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I wouldn't expect the kind of person to get angry at this over Facebook to know who Anwar Sadat was.
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I don't want to get all freeper in here, but do they really not trust anyone in our own military....wait why am I asking that question.
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I don't trust anyone in our military unless you mean trust them to put their balls in my coffee.
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