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Am I a heathen for planning on making a Manhattan with Woodford Reserve?
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Feb 20, 2013 16:51
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bunnyofdoom posted:Am I a heathen for planning on making a Manhattan with Woodford Reserve? Naw, go for it, it'll probably taste great! I made a Rob Roy last night with some Glenlivet 15 and a dash of orange bitters, nice change of pace.
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Feb 20, 2013 17:04
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bunnyofdoom posted:Am I a heathen for planning on making a Manhattan with Woodford Reserve? Only if you're not pairing it with a good vermouth.
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Feb 20, 2013 23:59
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Schpyder posted:Only if you're not pairing it with a good vermouth. Is Martini and Rossi Red good?
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Feb 21, 2013 00:10
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bunnyofdoom posted:Is Martini and Rossi Red good? Not particularly but it's hard to find better outside of upscale liquor stores.
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Feb 21, 2013 00:15
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I had a glass of highland park after drinking only bourbons for a few weeks, and drat is it smokey, I somehow never noticed just how smokey for the first half of the bottle. I think I enjoy it a lot more now, still my favorite whisk(e)y so far.
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Feb 21, 2013 00:17
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bunnyofdoom posted:So, I do drink Whisky and Whiskey from time to time. I really like peaty scotches like Lagavulin and Laphroig. (My Dad also has a bottle of blended that was aged 40 years). I also enjoy Woodford Reserve Bourbon. Since I live in Canada, thinking about trying out some Canadian Whisky. Any recommendations? Try Lot 40, rye made in small copper stills. I picked one up and it's surprisingly complex for its price. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/food-and-wine/wine/lot-no-40-a-worthy-canadian-equivalent-to-fine-scotch-or-bourbon/article6828912/
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Feb 21, 2013 01:59
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derp posted:I had a glass of highland park after drinking only bourbons for a few weeks, and drat is it smokey, I somehow never noticed just how smokey for the first half of the bottle. I think I enjoy it a lot more now, still my favorite whisk(e)y so far. Highland Park 15 is one of the scotches I usually go to first after I need a break from bourbon. I love the smokeyness. Smokewagon fucked around with this message at 12:53 on Feb 21, 2013 |
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Feb 21, 2013 02:06
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I went by the spirits section in Albertsons yesterday to check how outrageous their price on Lagavulin 16 was compared to the private store (it was the same $134). I nearly had a panic attack when the entire 2 sections of shelving for scotch was gone and replaced with a big empty metal cage. According to the checker they've had several thefts in the last few weeks where the thief used the fire exit door to get out, setting off the alarm. They already had a locked display case with the pricier stuff but I don't know if this means they're going to lock all of it up or just make another intermediate level of security for the mid-range products. I don't typically buy spirits there but now I'm definitely not going to track down an employee who has to call a manager to open the case for me, geez.
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Feb 21, 2013 06:53
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bunnyofdoom posted:Am I a heathen for planning on making a Manhattan with Woodford Reserve? When I had a sore throat the other week, I realized I didn't have any scotch that was less than good to make a hot toddy. So I used a Ben Nevis 11... It's bad to want to have a sore throat just to justify doing that, right?
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Feb 21, 2013 07:21
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Cpt.Wacky posted:I went by the spirits section in Albertsons yesterday to check how outrageous their price on Lagavulin 16 was compared to the private store (it was the same $134). I nearly had a panic attack when the entire 2 sections of shelving for scotch was gone and replaced with a big empty metal cage. According to the checker they've had several thefts in the last few weeks where the thief used the fire exit door to get out, setting off the alarm. They already had a locked display case with the pricier stuff but I don't know if this means they're going to lock all of it up or just make another intermediate level of security for the mid-range products. I don't typically buy spirits there but now I'm definitely not going to track down an employee who has to call a manager to open the case for me, geez.
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Feb 21, 2013 08:27
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Well, it was in the fancy display case that they probably don't ever expect anyone to buy from.
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Feb 21, 2013 08:54
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Cpt.Wacky posted:Well, it was in the fancy display case that they probably don't ever expect anyone to buy from. I never understood that. I see that in non-liquor stores all the time. I wonder how much of the product in a cage a place like Albertson's actually sells. I know I've never bothered, seems like it would take half an hour for someone to track down the manager who is off hiding somewhere watching porn.
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Feb 21, 2013 12:57
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Can anyone tell me anything about this bottle I just found? My dreams of drinking whiskey older than me is coming true.
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Feb 21, 2013 15:12
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Wow, I don't know the particulars of that bottling but old Longmorn is supposed to be very good.
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Feb 21, 2013 15:40
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Zlatan Imhobitch posted:Can anyone tell me anything about this bottle I just found? Here's what some guys thought of that particulary bottling - seems rather positive. Good find! http://www.whisky-monitor.com/bottle.jsp?bid=8190&bottling=Longmorn+32yo+1968/2000
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Feb 21, 2013 18:21
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Was anyone else marginally impressed with last year's Speyside 10? It was nice and sweet and smooth without being cloying or cheap tasting. Or maybe my palate is incredibly unrefined? Also I have a bottle of Buchanan's that im just not enjoying. Any tips on giving it a little but more depth or something?
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Feb 22, 2013 00:41
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Why is good single malt scotch so much more expensive than good bourbon? Is it just the fact that scotch is imported and bourbon is domestic? As someone who has never had scotch, what should I expect as a bourbon drinker? What exactly does peat taste like? Are scotch drinkers mainly looking for a big peaty profile or something more balanced? CostCo had Bowmore 12-year for $40 and MacAllan 12-year for $55, are these good choices? Would you recommend something else for somebody who hasn't tried many scotches? Corb3t fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Feb 22, 2013 |
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Feb 22, 2013 04:16
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Bag of Sun Chips posted:Why is good single malt scotch so much more expensive than good bourbon? Is it just the fact that scotch is imported and bourbon is domestic? There are several reasons, but mostly it is because: A.) Scotch takes longer to reach maturity. It is aged in a relatively cool climate, which means 10 to 12 years is still fairly young for a scotch whisky. Bourbon, on the other hand, is mostly aged in warmer areas and reaches maturity much quicker (between 3-7 years). The longer the distiller has to sit on the barrels, the higher the cost. B.) Demand. Scotch whisky is hot right now, and prices of even very young whisky is going through the roof. Distillers are literally running out of old stock, leaving them to scramble to push out as much as possible and people are buying it. C.) Importing has something to do with it, but I've found that scotch prices can often be comparable in the US vs Great Britain simply because spirits are taxed excessively over there. As for recommendations, I would not suggest anything overly peaty, so that would rule out the Bowmore 12. Scotch is, in most cases, much less sweet than bourbon, and has a greater variety of flavors. The Macallan 12 is fairly good - it's aged in sherry casks and has a smooth, fruity flavor. My top three for a scotch novice would be these: Glenfiddich 12 - Light and fruity Glenmorange 12 - Vanillia, fruit Highland Park 12 - A good introduction to peat, if you're curious. It's mildly smoky, but overly so. It's reasobably pried and gives a good overview of several scotch styles (sweet, smoky, salty).
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Feb 22, 2013 04:38
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Drinking some Glenlivet 18 y/o after deciding to return to Scotch, I'm finding I like smokier flavours a bit more, are there any whiskeys (not just scotch) that exhibit more of the Islay flavours that aren't stupid $ per bottle? (I'm in Aus btw.) e: ok, now to find a Laphroaig Quarter Cask and guzzle. Oh god the average for $100au 700ml. 
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Feb 22, 2013 06:25
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mlnhd posted:I want some whiskey that's older than I am. I'll be turning 30 in a year. Where can I get some/what should I get/how much will should I pay? The Costco near me has Macallan 30yr. for $900 (with crazy Washington taxes). Unfortunately you'll probably pay quite a bit for a bottle of something 30+ years old.
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Feb 22, 2013 06:54
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Zlatan Imhobitch posted:Can anyone tell me anything about this bottle I just found? A whisky of that age with such a high ABV is usually a bit concerning, it means either poor wood or (much less likely) unusual maturation conditions such as very warm ambient temperatures. Longmorn would likely have been filling at 'still strength' in that era so at most it's come down 10-15%, which isn't a good sign.
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Feb 22, 2013 08:30
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I have a quick question, is a single malt still considered a single malt if it is a combination of two separate barrels of the same malt?
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Feb 22, 2013 09:02
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Politicalrancor posted:I have a quick question, is a single malt still considered a single malt if it is a combination of two separate barrels of the same malt? Yes. In fact, that is the case for most single malts which aren't marked as "single cask" or "single barrel". Mixing barrels helps unify the flavor profile. As far as I know, the only requirement for being considered a single malt is that it is malted grain whisky that is produced at a single distillery, as opposed to a vatted/blended malt, which would be a mix of several single malts from different distilleries, or a blended whisky, which would be a mixture of single malts and other grain whiskies/spirits from different distilleries.
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Feb 22, 2013 09:25
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NightConqueror posted:
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Feb 22, 2013 11:06
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mlnhd posted:I want some whiskey that's older than I am. I'll be turning 30 in a year. Where can I get some/what should I get/how much will should I pay? I've seen some off the shelf old pulteney 30 for about 450, have not tried it though. I don't think you'll be getting a 30 year scotch of any quality for much less than that. When I hit 30 in 4 months or so I'll probably go for Taylor Fladgate 30 Year Tawny Port. It is less ludicrously priced than any scotch of that age but also awesome.
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Feb 22, 2013 14:32
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There are some older Tomintoul expressions available that are cheap in comparison with other similarly aged malts and are very very good. I think they had a 27y/o OB that was highly regarded and has now been replaced with a 32y/o.
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Feb 22, 2013 15:42
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Another reason Whisky tends to be more expensive than Bourbon is the cost of the Barrels. It's unusual for Whisky to be made in new barrels, they tend to be used Bourbon barrels or Sherry Casks. With the fact that some Whisky's will matured in several different barrels of the course of it's lifetime all adds to the costs of manufacture.
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Feb 22, 2013 16:40
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Hello whisky thread! I like whisky and I've had the good fortune of spending some time living with a couple of pretty well off whisky drinkers and then joining a whisky tasting club in the past couple years, so I've had the opportunity to try quite a few. I've barely tried anything but scotch, though. I'm currently sipping one that I assume most of you haven't tried: Kavalan. It's a single malt that's actually from Taiwan. It's fairly sweet with a bit of citrus, pretty straightforward and drinkable. I just got it as a gift from a friend, saw this thread, and decided to pour myself a glass. Have any of you guys tried this?
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Feb 22, 2013 17:40
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duckstab posted:A whisky of that age with such a high ABV is usually a bit concerning, it means either poor wood or (much less likely) unusual maturation conditions such as very warm ambient temperatures. Longmorn would likely have been filling at 'still strength' in that era so at most it's come down 10-15%, which isn't a good sign. Soooooo, it won't taste nice? 
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Feb 22, 2013 17:43
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Zlatan Imhobitch posted:Soooooo, it won't taste nice? See my post above. Other people drank it and liked it enough to give it mid-80 ratings. Of course, that's no guarantee that you, personally, will enjoy it or think it worth the money. However, you can be reasonably sure it isn't undrinkable trash.
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Feb 22, 2013 20:18
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Aramoro posted:Another reason Whisky tends to be more expensive than Bourbon is the cost of the Barrels. It's unusual for Whisky to be made in new barrels, they tend to be used Bourbon barrels or Sherry Casks. With the fact that some Whisky's will matured in several different barrels of the course of it's lifetime all adds to the costs of manufacture.
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Feb 23, 2013 02:09
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Zlatan Imhobitch posted:Soooooo, it won't taste nice?
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Feb 23, 2013 02:14
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Aramoro posted:Another reason Whisky tends to be more expensive than Bourbon is the cost of the Barrels. It's unusual for Whisky to be made in new barrels, they tend to be used Bourbon barrels or Sherry Casks. With the fact that some Whisky's will matured in several different barrels of the course of it's lifetime all adds to the costs of manufacture. You have to buy a new barrel every time for Bourbon, otherwise it can not be called Bourbon. New barrels are generally more expensive than used. Since most whisky producers buy used barrels, and barrels can and are re-used, barrels are not the reason for the higher cost when it comes to good Scotch.
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Feb 23, 2013 02:58
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Another thing that drives costs is the fact that distillers pay taxes (and insurance?) on an appreciating asset (whisk(e)y) that is taking up space but declining in volume a little bit each year. Obviously this would have a larger effect on the price of scotch vs. bourbon. This was brought up when I went on the Jim Beam tour.
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Feb 23, 2013 05:21
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Knob Creek was on sale so I got some, new favorite bourbon I think. I got some Bulleit as well and it's real easy drinking, but almost too easy, too smooth and plain. I want to try the rye version of it.
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Feb 23, 2013 06:26
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Aurune posted:Just don't try the Wild Turkey: Rare Breed barrel strength stuff. It'll ruin you for life. I don't have much in this world. Don't you try and take what I have from me!
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Feb 23, 2013 07:10
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Enjoying a dram of Glenmorangie Finealta at the moment. Very smooth and very nuanced, some apricot and nutmeg. I still think my favorite (<$150) Glenmorangie is the Quinta Ruban (Port Finished), though. Really Incredible, especially at it's common price point.
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Feb 24, 2013 01:18
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Hey Whisky thread, I've got a question for fellow UK guys out there. I've shunned bourbons for quite a while now due to a dislike of the usual suspects available in bars, but I recently decided to give them a fair chance. Are there any recommendations for a good affordable and readily available bourbon to test the waters with? Preferably not anything too sweet.
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Feb 24, 2013 01:28
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Daius posted:Hey Whisky thread, I've got a question for fellow UK guys out there. I've shunned bourbons for quite a while now due to a dislike of the usual suspects available in bars, but I recently decided to give them a fair chance. Are there any recommendations for a good affordable and readily available bourbon to test the waters with? Preferably not anything too sweet. I can't think of any.
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