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You can't post these without the story... From reddit: So I work in the office and take photos for a shop. One day, this Jeep Grand Cherokee comes in saying that they heard a noise on the highway, then the brakes failed. Once we got the car to the shop via tow truck, a simple look underneath the car shows us what happened: •The transfer case exploded. Half of it didn't come with the car. •Shrapnel from the transfer case explosion caused nearby hard lines to sever or kink, and it also caused a fair bit of damage to the underbody. •To make matters worse, the driveshaft picked up part of the severed hard line (which went to -- you guessed it -- the brakes) and everything ended up as one giant pretzel. Suffice to say, it cost more than finding and fixing a brake fluid leak.
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Feb 19, 2013 16:45
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chrisgt posted:You can't post these without the story... One does not simply "explode" a Jeep transfer case quite like that, what in the hell 
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Feb 20, 2013 01:41
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Geirskogul posted:
I feel like AI should be smarter than this. If the car hit the oven with enough force to displace the core support and cause major suspension damage, do you guys think the oven would still be square? The car is junk. It's going to the scrap heap, and they put the oven in there because it's junk too and it's going to the same scrap heap. I've done the same thing before (put an old barbecue in a Miata tub).
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Feb 20, 2013 02:50
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Savington posted:If the car hit the oven with enough force to displace the core support and cause major suspension damage, do you guys think the oven would still be square? Oven square? How about the dead giveaway intact windshield?
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Feb 20, 2013 03:01
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Motronic posted:Oven square? How about the dead giveaway intact windshield? Haha, I post a pic with no explanation, and everyone jumps to a conclusion. The truck and range are being junked.
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Feb 20, 2013 14:09
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Beach Bum posted:One does not simply "explode" a Jeep transfer case quite like that, what in the hell I bet it was in 4hi above the speed restriction and on dry pavement.
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Feb 20, 2013 15:39
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Godholio posted:I bet it was in 4hi above the speed restriction and on dry pavement. I think they also do that when run low on fluid for extended time.
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Feb 20, 2013 17:00
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sharkytm posted:Haha, I post a pic with no explanation, and everyone jumps to a conclusion. The truck and range are being junked. I thought it was pretty obvious that's what's going on. I suppose not based on the discussion.
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Feb 20, 2013 17:08
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Horrible structural idea!
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Feb 20, 2013 17:10
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White trucks can't dunk. I'm so sorry Previa_fun fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Feb 20, 2013 |
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Feb 20, 2013 17:24
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If the seats are out, that probably doesn't weigh much. I'd worry about wind, though. 
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Feb 20, 2013 18:01
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Previa_fun posted:White trucks can't dunk. That's a real... hoopty ride... 
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Feb 20, 2013 18:18
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Previa_fun posted:White trucks can't dunk. No no, I think that was quite acceptable. Who the gently caress in their right mind thinks that is a good idea?
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Feb 20, 2013 18:21
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DJ Commie posted:I think they also do that when run low on fluid for extended time. Mine didn't, but I was at least smart enough to stop driving it when it started popping and jerking as I drove due to the shift mode fork pads melting, the mode collar grinding into the fork, and the teeth no longer making full contact with the mainshaft and chain sprocket. If I'd driven it for much longer it probably would have ended up like that one. BrokenKnucklez posted:No no, I think that was quite acceptable. the kind of loving retard that starts an "offroad truck build" by getting the body 6 feet in the air on a stack of home improvement products. You KNOW a massive set of tractor tires, deuce axles, leaf springs the shape of barrel hoops, and tractor link heims are going under that turd. And it'll still have about 2-3 feet of clearance under the body due to the farmyard-fuckstick-fabricated suspension mount setup and drop transfer case.
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Feb 20, 2013 18:41
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kastein posted:the kind of loving retard that starts an "offroad truck build" by getting the body 6 feet in the air on a stack of home improvement products. You KNOW a massive set of tractor tires, deuce axles, leaf springs the shape of barrel hoops, and tractor link heims are going under that turd. And it'll still have about 2-3 feet of clearance under the body due to the farmyard-fuckstick-fabricated suspension mount setup and drop transfer case. Again, its a horrible idea. I often see these bro trucks with huge lifts and other gently caress off poo poo that still don't have poo poo for axle clearance. Though its is funny to see them in the ditch on the snowy days. All that ground clearance in the world doesn't mean poo poo if you cant flex the axles.
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Feb 20, 2013 18:52
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No joke he probably just had to do some major work on the engine such as the headgaskets or something. Not that that is a safe way to remove the cab but it does have to be removed for certain types of engine work.
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Feb 20, 2013 18:55
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E: aaand beaten They probably (hopefully) have the body pulled off because it's literally the only way to do any sort of meaningful work on Ford's diesel engines, but the method is still very poorly executed.
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Feb 20, 2013 18:57
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oh I'm an idiot and didn't notice it was a late model Ford and that the frame was still on the ground.
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Feb 20, 2013 19:12
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At least they stacked the cinder blocks properly.
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Feb 20, 2013 23:39
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Meh, I'm okay with it. With no engine, and possibly removal of seats and other interior bits, the cab can't weigh too much. You guys are such pansies sometimes  Sure, it could be safer, but they could also be paying some shop to do all the work for 'em. I appreciate the go-getter attitude! I'm willing to be some of the stuff that I've done is way scarier. Remind me to tell you guys about the time I lit a running Maverick on fire in the parking garage of my apartment complex...
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Feb 20, 2013 23:53
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I'm not so much worried about the cinder blocks (at least they stacked them vertically so they won't crumble, and did 16x16 squares properly interlocked instead of stacking up a single pillar of blocks on each side) - I'm worried about those beams. Probably fine, though. I mostly started ranting about it because every other time I've seen that kind of stack under a truck, the next few pictures were pure  "mud truck" fabrication that made me want to move to another planet. I didn't notice the frame/drivetrain were still on the ground.
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Feb 21, 2013 00:04
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kastein posted:I mostly started ranting about it because every other time I've seen that kind of stack under a truck, the next few pictures were pure Yeah....I saw a newer body style F250/350 and immediately thought engine work.....because that was step 1 on most of the warranty recall procedures on the cursed 6 liter PowerStrokes.
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Feb 21, 2013 00:12
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The way Ford shoehorned everything into those engine bays "remove body from frame" is pretty much the first step for anything other than adding fluids regardless of what engine it has. The only really part of that whole setup is the front being supported by a haphazardly placed 2x6.
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Feb 21, 2013 01:34
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How did they even get it on there? With a forklift?
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Feb 21, 2013 01:43
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I don't see the point of stacking it up that far, why not just set it on the ground nearby, stacked on a few pieces of wood to not gently caress up the paint 
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Feb 21, 2013 01:46
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I'm going to guess they didn't have enough people to manhandle it off the frame and carry it away. You could probably do what they did with 2-3 people, you'd need twice as many to move it around.
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Feb 21, 2013 01:50
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What is the point of setting the cab on the ground when you have to get it that high anyway? If you build the support like that and roll the chassis away, you cut out having to move the cab horizontally while it's 6 feet in the air and having to drop and lift the cab 6 feet vertically.
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Feb 21, 2013 02:06
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Throatwarbler posted:How did they even get it on there? With a forklift? I know how I would have achieved that. They are loose bessabricks. You just lift a corner at a time and slip another row in. Pretty much how I have to get the VW off the ground because none of my jacks are tall enough on their own. Except I to use a jack for lifting still because it's too heavy otherwise.
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Feb 21, 2013 02:07
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Geoj posted:The way Ford shoehorned everything into those engine bays "remove body from frame" is pretty much the first step for anything other than adding fluids regardless of what engine it has. They started this in 96 with the new body style F150s. Mine was a '97 and it was a multi-hour procedure to do something simple like change the plugs. 15 minutes to do the frontmost 6, the rest of the time cursing, busting knuckles and making extension/wobble/u-joint contraptions. Whoever thought wrapping the back 1/3 of the motor with the firewall......well, let's say I'd like to get my hands on them and share the pain.
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Feb 21, 2013 02:16
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General_Failure - Agreed, I would bet on them having lifted one side at a time high enough to get more block under it until it was that high. They did that because they lacked a lift or overhead hoist and didn't feel like paying the pros to do the job. That cab is NOT light, I would bet at least 1200, probably more like 1500-1600lbs. Why? Because I know for a fact that a truck drivetrain I lifted with my redneck jeep crane setup weighed in around 900-1000 and it picked it up easily and trundled around the yard with it no problem. The single cab off the same 94 dodge 2500 with the doors and front fenders + radiator support removed? I only got it about 10" off the ground before I ran out of suspension travel and chain on the hoist, and the rear wheels of the jeep came off the ground every time I let the clutch out in reverse or tapped the brakes going forward. And that Ford cab is a 4 door, complete, and a decade newer, with all the NVH, rollover safety, and airbag/crash safety equipment that entails. kastein fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Feb 21, 2013 |
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Feb 21, 2013 02:20
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SNiPER_Magnum posted:What is the point of setting the cab on the ground when you have to get it that high anyway? If you build the support like that and roll the chassis away, you cut out having to move the cab horizontally while it's 6 feet in the air and having to drop and lift the cab 6 feet vertically. If you have the materials necessary to support it 6+ feet in the air on hand already, sure. Otherwise I'd rather spend $20 on a case of beer and have 4-5 friends give me a hand lifting it off the frame and carrying it aside over $150+ on a large pile of one time use construction materials.
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Feb 21, 2013 02:57
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Geoj posted:If you have the materials necessary to support it 6+ feet in the air on hand already, sure. Otherwise I'd rather spend $20 on a case of beer and have 4-5 friends give me a hand lifting it off the frame and carrying it aside over $150+ on a large pile of one time use construction materials. You are assuming there aren't any houses under construction nearby or that the truck owner isn't a builder.
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Feb 21, 2013 03:05
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Geoj posted:If you have the materials necessary to support it 6+ feet in the air on hand already, sure. Otherwise I'd rather spend $20 on a case of beer and have 4-5 friends give me a hand lifting it off the frame and carrying it aside over $150+ on a large pile of one time use construction materials. that's cool and all but if you look at the picture closely (as I didn't at first), you can see that that's about as low as you can go with the cab and still be able to get the frame with drivetrain installed out from under it. There is a reason for what they did. Also, the whole "cab weighs at least 1200-1600lbs" thing means you better have a lot of loving strong dudes for friends, or just do what they did. That's a minimum of 200lbs per friend if my low end guess is right, I don't think most people want to try and lift 200lbs of cab off a frame and get it that far up, in synch, then walk it away from the frame, in synch, all the while risking dropping it and doing four figures in damage to the bodywork. Oh, and here is that shift fork I complained about a while ago, crossposted from my thread:  Transfer cases like to run better with fluid in them. Who knew 
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Feb 21, 2013 03:08
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Geoj posted:The only really That's not support, just a tip precaution. Real shops put a tall (and almost as flimsy) jack under each end of your car after the lift is up for the same reason. It doesn't support much weight, but it doesn't have to; just enough to stop a slowly tipping load in case you wrench too hard or similar.
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Feb 21, 2013 04:11
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Someone should have told that guy the first step in fixing the 6.0 involves buying a gallon of gas and a pack of matches.
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Feb 21, 2013 05:51
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He might be well aware, some cultures use stone platforms and stacked wood for funeral pyres. Let's compare:  Stone platform? Check. Stacked wood? Check. Got a light? 
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Feb 21, 2013 07:06
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Saw this while looking at some mining vehicle carnage. Makes me cringe. No info other then a shoddy Chinese tire.
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Feb 21, 2013 14:48
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Dradien posted:Saw this while looking at some mining vehicle carnage. Makes me cringe. Holy poo poo, I wouldn't want to get within half a mile of that thing. Regular car tires are scary enough when they explode, that's god drat terrifying.
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Feb 21, 2013 15:01
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chrisgt posted:Holy poo poo, I wouldn't want to get within half a mile of that thing. Regular car tires are scary enough when they explode, that's god drat terrifying. Am I stupid for thinking the best solution there is to get everyone a few miles away from it and have one person shoot at it from really really far away and behind something? The idea of that exploding makes me want to be in a different county.
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DoesNotCompute posted:Am I stupid for thinking the best solution there is to get everyone a few miles away from it and have one person shoot at it from really really far away and behind something? The idea of that exploding makes me want to be in a different county. The first solution I thought of involved .308 and a scope as well. gently caress everything about being within 500 yards of that thing.
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