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INCHI DICKARI
Aug 23, 2006

by FactsAreUseless

:aaaaa:

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randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

The comments say it better than I ever could.


Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Slavvy posted:



According to a kenyan technical training guy I know, these are common as balls in kenya. They made them right up until the mid 00's and they're thought of as super-reliable and rugged.

There are a heap of them in the Democratic Republic of Congo as well. I see them probably not quite as regularly as Land Cruisers in the photos we get sent through of our mines over there, and Cruisers have got to be the most popular vehicle in Sub-Saharan Africa.

slothrop
Dec 7, 2006

Santa Alpha, Fox One... Gifts Incoming ~~~>===|>

Soiled Meat

That is just awesome. That's the sort of car I've always wanted to own and never known it until right now

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.


It's legal to drive in that condition right?

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
I think you have to stay 500 feet away from schools, but otherwise you're good.

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
That's one of the best car ads I've ever seen.

emf
Aug 1, 2002



Maybe I'm the only one, but I think that was just stereotypical German sterility and emotionless engineering boasting. Since everyone is already making sex analogies, I will say it is the automotive equivalent of a gynecological exam.

As a counterpoint to my argument, the woman is exceptionally beautiful, and she's making some really sexy noises in the process. Now I'm confused ... but I think I understand German porn better now.

Drunken Lullabies
Aug 1, 2006

by Debbie Metallica

emf posted:

Maybe I'm the only one, but I think that was just stereotypical German sterility and emotionless engineering boasting. Since everyone is already making sex analogies, I will say it is the automotive equivalent of a gynecological exam.

As a counterpoint to my argument, the woman is exceptionally beautiful, and she's making some really sexy noises in the process. Now I'm confused ... but I think I understand German porn better now.

It sure beats a lot of other car ads, and I'm sure it cost way less to shoot. Simple and to the point.

emf
Aug 1, 2002



Drunken Lullabies posted:

It sure beats a lot of other car ads.
No doubt about that. Thankfully I am fully immune to car ads since I haven't watched broadcast or standard cable TV in nearly a decade. Car ads peaked with Joe Isuzu.

Sir Cornelius
Oct 30, 2011

KozmoNaut posted:

The 504 and 505 were definitely some tough bastards, I guess rust was their only weak point. I've been sort of wanting one because they're sort of the last of a breed, the last Africa-conquering RWD Peugeots. There's an absolutely immaculate 1976 504 for sale near me. When I say immaculate I really mean it's utterly flawless, with complete service records for the car's entire life so far. It's about 25% more than what I paid for my 406, though, for a 37-year-old car.



There's current 3-5 of the 200 originally made 1984 Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 Rally Group B cars for sale. They usually start at EUR100K/$130K. The sound is probably worth it though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSYYjLOWg7w

Holy poo poo. This is for sale for only £70K: http://www.markdonaldson.com/forsale/peugeot-205-t16

This one I'd probably kill for:

http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/classic-car-page/179218/1985-peugeot-205-t16/


Imported and all, that'll only be around 1.500% of what I paid for my current 406 TS6 beater.

Sir Cornelius fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Mar 2, 2013

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!

emf posted:

Maybe I'm the only one, but I think that was just stereotypical German sterility and emotionless engineering boasting. Since everyone is already making sex analogies, I will say it is the automotive equivalent of a gynecological exam.

As a counterpoint to my argument, the woman is exceptionally beautiful, and she's making some really sexy noises in the process. Now I'm confused ... but I think I understand German porn better now.

Yep, it's just you.


Is that V10 turbocharged? If not, what kind of compression is it running to get those flames? :flashfap:

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


They had a two 205s hooning around for the Top Gear Live show last summer in Copenhagen, for the Peugeot 208 introduction. One was a GTI, the other a T16. Neither the Top Gear guys nor The Stig touched it all, however, I think the driver was a designated guy from Peugeot. I bet no one else was even allowed to get close to it.

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000

Detroit Q. Spider posted:

Yep, it's just you.
Yeah. That wasn't sterile at all, that was goddamn sexy.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

those glowing catalysts :aaaaa:

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

Detroit Q. Spider posted:

Yep, it's just you.


Is that V10 turbocharged? If not, what kind of compression is it running to get those flames? :flashfap:
From http://www.topgear.com/uk/audi/r8-v10/road-test/plus-road-test :

quote:

The V10 Plus (sadly, no relation to the Golf Plus) is the flagship of the facelifted R8 range, a facelift comprising sparkly new LED lights, an extensive weight-loss programme and, most significantly, a shiny new S tronic double-clutch gearbox to replace the R8's clunking old automated manual. Power output on the standard V8 and V10 models remain unchanged, but the Plus's V10, while remaining naturally aspirated, gets a 25bhp hike to a Ferrari-troubling 550bhp, putting its vital stats within a gnat's wing of the 458.

No idea on CR, but it's not turbo.

Bob NewSCART
Feb 1, 2012

Outstanding afternoon. "I've often said there's nothing better for the inside of a man than the outside of a horse."

I wonder why they don't turbo the R8, it's not like they're against turbos in all their cars considering I think all the S classes are turbocharged.

HandlingByJebus
Jun 21, 2009

All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world, so there was only one thing I could do:
was ding a ding dang, my dang a long racecar.

It's a love affair. Mainly jebus, and my racecar.


Jesus tapdancing christ, what a noise. What a noise! All of the hair on my everything is standing on end.

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

Bob NewSCART posted:

I wonder why they don't turbo the R8, it's not like they're against turbos in all their cars considering I think all the S classes are turbocharged.
Why do you think they SHOULD turbo the R8?

There's certainly arguments for either side of it - they've already gotten 550hp out of a 5.2L (hp/L :laugh: ), it's probably marginally more reliable/simple to produce, they COULD get MORE power out of it, the turbo may translate to more/less drivability, etc.

Bob NewSCART
Feb 1, 2012

Outstanding afternoon. "I've often said there's nothing better for the inside of a man than the outside of a horse."

Krakkles posted:

Why do you think they SHOULD turbo the R8?

There's certainly arguments for either side of it - they've already gotten 550hp out of a 5.2L (hp/L :laugh: ), it's probably marginally more reliable/simple to produce, they COULD get MORE power out of it, the turbo may translate to more/less drivability, etc.

It's an easy(relatively speaking) way to get a lot more power out of an engine.

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!






Stanceworks posted:

To those familiar with the engine, forgive me while I share a few tidbits that make the M12 one of the coolest engines ever built. Based off of BMW's M10, a very successful and widely-used inline-4 with a displacement ranging from 1.5 to 2.0 liters, the M12 was essentially a racing version. Over it's near-30-year history, the engine became one of the most successful in racing history - and for good reason. In it's 2.0L configuration for Formula 2, the little engine pumped out more than 300 horsepower. The turbocharged 1.4L variant built for DRM (Deutsche Rennsport Meisterschaft), pumped out 350 horsepower with such reliability that BMW began thinking about entering Formula 1. That is where the M12 grows into one of the most spectacular engines ever.

The M12 won the Formula 1 World Championship in 1983, powering Nelson Piquet in the Brabham-BMW to the finish line. The engine continued to grow in power until 1986, when in turbocharged qualifying guise, the 1.5L pumped out an absolutely earth-turning 1,500 horsepower, the highest ever in Formula 1. To achieve this number, the M12 ran a staggering 80PSI of boost and revved to a screaming 11,500 RPM. However, the M12 was outlawed in 1988 when Formula 1 banned turbocharging, leaving the M12 to the history books.
emphasis mine


http://www.stanceworks.com/2013/01/the-discovery-of-forgotten-treasures/ - yes I've become a bit of a stanceworks whore but drat they have some cool old BMW stuff

NitroSpazzz fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Mar 2, 2013

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Detroit Q. Spider posted:

Yep, it's just you.


Is that V10 turbocharged? If not, what kind of compression is it running to get those flames? :flashfap:

It's direct injected so the CR will be around 12:1 or more. They won't turbo it because it adds significant weight, makes for a difficult cooling situation in a mid-engined car, and is considered 'impure' in the class, as lambo, ferrari etc all have aspirated halo cars. Emissions will soon change all of this though.


Bob NewSCART posted:

It's an easy(relatively speaking) way to get a lot more power out of an engine.

Most of the time it's actually just easier to make the engine bigger or make small incremental improvements to management, combustion chamber design, cam profiles etc. Turbocharging it would demand a major re-design of the entire car.

Das Volk
Nov 19, 2002

by Cyrano4747
I realize we all like turbochargers, but I have no idea how some of you could miss the point of that engine after hearing that video. The point IS that it's naturally aspirated and sounds like a choir of Pavarottis being blown up with napalm.

Also, there's this:


I'm not sure which thread it belongs in honestly.

Artemis J Brassnuts
Jan 2, 2009
I regret😢 to inform📢 I am the most sexually🍆 vanilla 🍦straight 📏 dude😰 on the planet🌎
It belongs in every thread. In all forums.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Das Volk posted:

I realize we all like turbochargers, but I have no idea how some of you could miss the point of that engine after hearing that video. The point IS that it's naturally aspirated and sounds like a choir of Pavarottis being blown up with napalm.

Also, there's this:


I'm not sure which thread it belongs in honestly.

Looks like a sexbot for fish men

And my favourite engine note description of all time was something like "Luciano Pavarotti caught in a mangle". Can't remember where I read that but for some reason I want to say that dude who owned a husky and wrote for Car and Driver years ago.

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
G-Wagon. They would be great if they could wheel like a Jeep JK and cost less than a Unimog.

Somewhat Heroic
Oct 11, 2007

(Insert Mad Max related text)



I was just having an discussion with a friend that the R8 is absolute sex on wheels. He's all smitten over the GT-R and whatnot. I know they are not exactly in the same class but the R8 has looked beautiful and is my favorite Volkswagen I've ever seen

travisray2004
Dec 2, 2004
SuprMan
I have to say that while I respect the R8 for what it is and what it brings to the table, the styling has never made me drool like it does for many others. Although, I have yet to see one in person.

E:From an aesthetic standpoint. The engine(s) totally give me stiffness.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


travisray2004 posted:

I have to say that while I respect the R8 for what it is and what it brings to the table, the styling has never made me drool like it does for many others. Although, I have yet to see one in person.

E:From an aesthetic standpoint. The engine(s) totally give me stiffness.

I've seen loads in person, and I totally agree. They just don't look exciting. Very pretty, yes, but lacking panache.

AlmightyPants
Mar 14, 2001

King of Scheduling
Pillbug

Bob NewSCART posted:

I wonder why they don't turbo the R8, it's not like they're against turbos in all their cars considering I think all the S classes are turbocharged.

Back before the V10 R8 came out there were spy shots of a R8 that was supposed to get the turbo engine out of the RS6. Soon thereafter there were pictures of said car on fire. Apparently there were cooling issues with the turbo version that were not as economical to fix as just using the corporate V10.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

AlmightyPants posted:

Back before the V10 R8 came out there were spy shots of a R8 that was supposed to get the turbo engine out of the RS6. Soon thereafter there were pictures of said car on fire. Apparently there were cooling issues with the turbo version that were not as economical to fix as just using the corporate V10.

Also the one-off V12TDI R8 which had the Q7 sledgehammer engine weighed around two tons and still couldn't be driven balls-out because it just didn't get enough cooling.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


travisray2004 posted:

I have to say that while I respect the R8 for what it is and what it brings to the table, the styling has never made me drool like it does for many others. Although, I have yet to see one in person.

E:From an aesthetic standpoint. The engine(s) totally give me stiffness.

I've been a passenger in a V10 driven absolutely flat out by a pro racing driver. It goes and stops and corners like you wouldn't believe, it feels so ridiculously competent. It also rode really well over a decidedly less-than-ideal road surface, even at over 220kph. It feels very much like a perfectly engineered and magnificently constructed machine, but that's the problem. I just can't get excited about it. I was much more excited about sitting in the seat next to an 8-time Le Mans winner.

KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 10:34 on Mar 3, 2013

GTi_guy
Oct 21, 2003

avas ye, matey

KozmoNaut posted:

I've been a passenger in a V10 driven absolutely flat out by a pro racing driver. It goes and stops and corners like you wouldn't believe, it feels so ridiculously competent. It also rode really well over a decidedly less-than-ideal road surface, even at over 220kph. It feels very much like a perfectly engineered and magnificently constructed machine, but that's the problem. I just can't get excited about it. I was much more excited about sitting in the seat next to an 8-time Le Mans winner.

We need you to tell us more about your time with Mr. Kristensen. How you got the opportunity, where and if this a regular thing for him.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:

Cakefool posted:

It's legal to drive in that condition right?

It looks future as all gently caress with just the lights on the back and the engine hanging out... If I had the cash to buy one I'd willingly pay the fines just to drive it about looking like that.

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

88h88 posted:

It looks future as all gently caress with just the lights on the back and the engine hanging out... If I had the cash to buy one I'd willingly pay the fines just to drive it about looking like that.

Hang the license plate in the exhaust stream, that way it glows with heat and increases visibility. Problem solved!

Giblet Plus!
Sep 14, 2004

NitroSpazzz posted:





emphasis mine


http://www.stanceworks.com/2013/01/the-discovery-of-forgotten-treasures/ - yes I've become a bit of a stanceworks whore but drat they have some cool old BMW stuff

gear drive cams are sick

Marvin K. Mooney
Jan 2, 2008

poop ship
destroyer

KozmoNaut posted:

I was much more excited about sitting in the seat next to an 8-time Le Mans winner.

That might be the issue, since TK was probably smooth as butter. I'm sure if you are looking for tail-out, growly downshifts constantly, and four wheel drifts it can do that too with Ken Block in the driver's seat.

The next R8 will probably be turbocharged, since that platform is being developed for the next Gallardo now. Maybe using the VAG 4.0T at 540-550hp for the base model (completely baseless speculation).

I think the original R8 will go down in history much in the same way the BMW M1 did, in that it was the brand's introduction into the supercar segment. Also it's drop-dead sexy.


Content: the future of the R8

ultimateforce
Apr 25, 2008

SKINNY JEANS CANT HOLD BACK THIS ARC
I'm the boost gauge plumbed directly into the intake manifold.

DJ Commie
Feb 29, 2004

Stupid drivers always breaking car, Gronk fix car...

Slavvy posted:

It's direct injected so the CR will be around 12:1 or more. They won't turbo it because it adds significant weight, makes for a difficult cooling situation in a mid-engined car, and is considered 'impure' in the class, as lambo, ferrari etc all have aspirated halo cars. Emissions will soon change all of this though.


Most of the time it's actually just easier to make the engine bigger or make small incremental improvements to management, combustion chamber design, cam profiles etc. Turbocharging it would demand a major re-design of the entire car.

Adding weight when it has a leather interior, huge amounts of sound deadening, probably 12+ speaker audio system, airbags, and tons of other things a few dozen pounds of turbo and charge cooling isn't why they didn't do it. Doubling the power output of an engine with forced induction only increases the peak pressure (the designed load) about 40%, so its more cam timing, cooling syste, and piston/exhaust valve materials to deal with that heat.


Isn't there a turbo version of the V10 anyway in some Audi wagon?

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Asshole Bicycle
Nov 4, 2007
I've never seen one in person, but walking around Tampa, FL yesterday I happened to spot this. I have to say it was a religious experience. I knocked on the door, but the owner wasn't home. Oh well.




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