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kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
or when you're blazing down the right lane passing traffic like the wind and a semi pulls out from an entrance ramp.

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InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Loaded up and trucking.We gonna do what they say cant be done.
Or just being parked on the shoulder!

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Arizona-pair-killed-after-rear-ending-semi-in-Utah/DRSj0VprZkC3bFpiIt9LZA.cspx

Trigger Warning: SPLAT

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe


That's what those goddamned bars were mandated for in the first place...I remember when that requirement came in. Now they don't do poo poo?

Frankenstein
Jul 29, 2005

What is required really isn't sufficient to keep vehicles from sliding under the trailer, especially when offset.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT3G-kcKN70

Edit: shouldn't have just a video as a reply.

Frankenstein fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Mar 8, 2013

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Loaded up and trucking.We gonna do what they say cant be done.

PainterofCrap posted:

That's what those goddamned bars were mandated for in the first place...I remember when that requirement came in. Now they don't do poo poo?

quote:

....states that a manufacturer owes a duty to design a vehicle reasonably safe for the occupants, but does not owe a duty to those that collide with the vehicle.

Been quite a few cases like that, I do wonder if this is a case against split speed limits though.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

The anti-submerge bars on the trailers in the US look pretty crap. The ones in Australia have angled re-enforcements so they just don't collapse under like in that video.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Loaded up and trucking.We gonna do what they say cant be done.

You Am I posted:

The anti-submerge bars on the trailers in the US look pretty crap. The ones in Australia have angled re-enforcements so they just don't collapse under like in that video.

Look at the Great Dane website:

http://www.greatdanetrailers.com/champion-cp

Are they like those?

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh
The lovely US one would at least be marginally better if the material thickness was enough to prevent tearing. Would still bend with that crummy gusseting but from the underneath camera you can see the whole bar is just tearing off the mounts.

I'm not sure what the US legislation looks like, but the language probably needs to be changed to enforce more stringent design and material standards. The :canada: one does a really good job, it just needs the main support beams at the edges of the trailer. Possibly a triple beam setup to maintain center strength.

Crustashio fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Mar 8, 2013

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Measly Twerp posted:

That's what you get when a semi pulls onto the road going much slower than traffic.

If you've left yourself zero room to either change lanes, or enough space to get slowed down, then you're loving doing it wrong.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Loaded up and trucking.We gonna do what they say cant be done.

Crustashio posted:

The lovely US one would at least be marginally better if the material thickness was enough to prevent tearing. Would still bend with that crummy gusseting but from the underneath camera you can see the whole bar is just tearing off the mounts.

I'm not sure what the US legislation looks like, but the language probably needs to be changed to enforce more stringent design and material standards. The :canada: one does a really good job, it just needs the main support beams at the edges of the trailer. Possibly a triple beam setup to maintain center strength.

It doesn't make sense though, as we have all our trailers Canadian specc'd.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
I basically figure if someone rear-ends a truck, they probably were being a dipshit in some way. It's not like they're small, hard to see vehicles that make sudden moves and can't be spotted a mile away.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

kastein posted:

I basically figure if someone rear-ends a truck, they probably were being a dipshit in some way. It's not like they're small, hard to see vehicles that make sudden moves and can't be spotted a mile away.

Well its like they tell you it takes a football field to get to a dead stop from 60, which is false if you actually know how to downshift and brake properly.

But they say things like that because most people cannot stop from that speed, and that is probably what happened. They thought they could stop or move in time, something blocked them in or they underestimated the speed change, and wham right into the truck.

Kugyou no Tenshi
Nov 8, 2005

We can't keep the crowd waiting, can we?

kastein posted:

I basically figure if someone rear-ends a truck, they probably were being a dipshit in some way. It's not like they're small, hard to see vehicles that make sudden moves and can't be spotted a mile away.

I take it you've never been cut off by a semi, then? Had one simply decide it was coming into my lane, no signal, and I had to slow down to dot get sideswiped by the trailer. The only thing that saved my rear end is that there was no one behind me, considering I had to go from 10 over to 10 under in the fast lane with literally ZERO warning.

MrYenko posted:

If you've left yourself zero room to either change lanes, or enough space to get slowed down, then you're loving doing it wrong.
Welcome to Georgia, where people fill every gap as soon as it is opened, ride three feet off your rear bumper at 80mph, and form a solid wall of cars in every lane.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



Kugyou no Tenshi posted:

Welcome to Georgia, where people fill every gap as soon as it is opened, ride three feet off your rear bumper at 80mph, and form a solid wall of cars in every lane.

This seems to be the case in the entire country, or at least where I've been here.

Viggen
Sep 10, 2010

by XyloJW

Kugyou no Tenshi posted:

I take it you've never been cut off by a semi, then? Had one simply decide it was coming into my lane, no signal, and I had to slow down to dot get sideswiped by the trailer. The only thing that saved my rear end is that there was no one behind me, considering I had to go from 10 over to 10 under in the fast lane with literally ZERO warning.

I had this happen once on a really ugly road and ended up having to make a third lane out of two. Turbo kicked in and I got the gently caress around, and didn't really get the adrenaline fail until after I got home nearly an hour later.

Most truckers are fairly sane (excepting Walmart branded tractors).

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

Kugyou no Tenshi posted:

I take it you've never been cut off by a semi, then? Had one simply decide it was coming into my lane, no signal, and I had to slow down to dot get sideswiped by the trailer. The only thing that saved my rear end is that there was no one behind me, considering I had to go from 10 over to 10 under in the fast lane with literally ZERO warning.

Welcome to Georgia, where people fill every gap as soon as it is opened, ride three feet off your rear bumper at 80mph, and form a solid wall of cars in every lane.

Sounds like Massachusetts. Except you bothered to mention "no signal", that's standard here :v:

I haven't had problems with truckers because, having driven a large, heavy, slow vehicle with poor rear visibility, I am constantly aware of the fact that they can't see well behind and around themselves, sometimes get fenced in or cut off by some idiot, etc. I try to stay either a safe distance behind (even when in another lane) or ahead of them, and pass/get out of their blind spots as quickly as possible. Hell, I even let them into my lane once in a while if it looks like they're about to get screwed by a merge and no one else is letting them in.

Thread content: An LBZ block Duramax that a friend just lost.



I apologize for the terrible photo editing, I didn't realize he'd left a bunch of blank white space around the photo when I uploaded it.

Pretty sure he had a straight pipe, tuner, etc on it (aka probably had this coming, if he wasn't being careful)... and had just lost some injectors to bad fuel. Best guess is it hydrolocked on fuel, rings stuck, piston melted, or piston seized in that bore, the injectors he got for it mostly fixed the issue but it threw a rod pulling out of a side street a few days later.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
And another one, shamelessly stolen from another friend who is "the car guy" in his circle of friends...

Dodge Dakota, friend reported it to be making "a banging noise"
OK, might have gotten to it soon enough, it just needs a shackle...


... make that two shackles :eng99:


Rust is such a great thing for cars.

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.
I don't see a 2x4 and a bunch of keys attached to it so its probably good for a few years yet

NoWake
Dec 28, 2008

College Slice
The 'High Ride' air solenoid is stuck open on my bus, the road mechanic couldn't change it out today so it's going to the shop tomorrow. Driving empty feels like I'm driving a bouncy castle, and driving loaded pisses off my passengers. I've apologized for the rough ride hundred times, but at least the roads here in central Florida are nice and flat.



Note: The back end of the bus is up about a foot and a half from where it should be, the air bags are completely maxed out and I can't believe they haven't blown. Water from the toilet has splashed the ceiling. It drove down from Ohio like this. :psyduck:

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Loaded up and trucking.We gonna do what they say cant be done.

NoWake posted:

The 'High Ride' air solenoid is stuck open on my bus, the road mechanic couldn't change it out today so it's going to the shop tomorrow. Driving empty feels like I'm driving a bouncy castle, and driving loaded pisses off my passengers. I've apologized for the rough ride hundred times, but at least the roads here in central Florida are nice and flat.



Note: The back end of the bus is up about a foot and a half from where it should be, the air bags are completely maxed out and I can't believe they haven't blown. Water from the toilet has splashed the ceiling. It drove down from Ohio like this. :psyduck:

HAHAHAHAHAHA, oh my loving god that bus is making me laugh too hard. I can not believe you are driving it with people on board.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
Give me a recap. You...maintain your own bus?

NoWake
Dec 28, 2008

College Slice
The company does the maintenance, but the company garage is currently 1,038 miles away.
Stuff like this rarely happens, but when it does I call dispatch and start the following process:

-Is it really that bad?
-Shut it down for 5 minutes and call back.
-Can you do anything to fix it? Try This, Try That!
-Can you make it to where you're going?
-Can you at least make it to _______ rest stop?
-Alright we'll send out a road crew
-Alright take it to ______ shop if you can.
-Alright :sigh: I guess we'll send another bus out, sit tight for the next 1-5 hours and by the way you'll do nothing but low-paying casino runs from here on out.

Astroman
Apr 8, 2001


PainterofCrap posted:

That's what those goddamned bars were mandated for in the first place...I remember when that requirement came in. Now they don't do poo poo?

I wonder if part of the problem is that as cars have become more crash resistant in the front, the bars haven't kept pace? So while they'd hold the line against the front end of a 30 year old car, a new car bends them right back.

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.
Cars have become safer by crumpling more easily. That should make that hang-down bar's job easier, not harder.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
Occam's Razor. Bars become mandated, no mandate on actual strength, just placement, businesses cut costs by making them cheap-as-gently caress. Simple. No explanation beyond that.

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Why aren't the back of trucks set up like buses at 'normal car' height?

e: Except for the bus on this page of course.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
So that you have a flat floor in the trailer. Plus it's cheaper to make a simple box on wheels.

Edmund Sparkler
Jul 4, 2003
For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is John Galt? This is John Galt speaking. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values. I am the man who has deprived you of victims and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are peris

West SAAB Story posted:

Most truckers are fairly sane (excepting Walmart branded tractors).

This just happened recently to a truck that had just left the store I work at.

http://www.king5.com/news/local/Walmart-semi-wedged-under-rail-overpass-in-Oregon-193104711.html

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
So something roughly in this shape that holds up more like a wall instead of crumpling away is too hard to do?



I honestly know nothing about 18 wheelers.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
Hard? No. But it costs more money than they have to spend to meet the minimum requirement.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Loaded up and trucking.We gonna do what they say cant be done.

Godholio posted:

Hard? No. But it costs more money than they have to spend to meet the minimum requirement.

And adds to the aero drag.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
Would it, though, with those new deflectors I'm seeing on trucks? The ones that look like an "A" from the top down, with the point in the middle of the front axle and the tails as wide as the rear of the box? The ones I see look like this, but with the front of it closer together or joined into a point.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Loaded up and trucking.We gonna do what they say cant be done.

Geirskogul posted:

Would it, though, with those new deflectors I'm seeing on trucks? The ones that look like an "A" from the top down, with the point in the middle of the front axle and the tails as wide as the rear of the box? The ones I see look like this, but with the front of it closer together or joined into a point.

There is going to be a lot of space from the end of the aeromod to the end of the trailer. And don't forget the tandem slides.

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran

So some guys complain that this portable 75hp exhaust blower is "making a noise." An hour or so later, they call back and say it stopped working and the breaker popped.

So we wander on down, and take a peek in the exhaust.


That's not good. Disconnect, replace (no easy task, as this unit is close to 1200lb, 12' tall, 14' long, and 6' wide.

Back at the shop, we get the intake plenum off.

Maybe the impeller should be attached to the output shaft flange somehow. Just a guess.

Get the intake off all the way and the impeller out. Two and a half of the six bolts are laying in the bottom.


So The Story: These blowers were manufactured five or so years ago. They were intended to be spares, so they went into the yard. They got pressed into service a few months back. Now at that time, someone noticed that they'd never been touched since they were initially delivered. "I'll do some PM," he says. There's a grease fitting in the rear, but not the front. The manufacturer's recommended break-in instructions said "ensure proper lubrication" but the company's maintenance deck didn't have "grease the bearings" as an explicit step, so no grease.

The blower started to make "there's a dry bearing" noise a couple of months ago, so one of our guys went down to grease it. There's a grease overflow cap on the bottom side of the motor at each bearing. It's completely impossible to get to the front drain cap due to the design of the blower housing. Anyway, grease goes in the back, and water comes out of the drain. That's not good. Forty pumps later, and cleanish grease starts coming out. He then swaps the grease fitting from the rear bearing to the front. Pumps 20 pumps in, and no more will pump in.

After we get someone to rig the motor out on Monday (75 hp is too big for me to lift), we're gonna take a look at that front bearing, which has probably never, ever, ever tasted clean grease since its construction five or so years ago.

It'd probably be cheaper and quicker to just take the thing to the scrapyard and use the money to buy a new one.

I didn't take pictures of all the rusted bolts or studs we broke. For some reason, clamping aluminum plates to steel flanges with stainless nuts doesn't work as well as some would have thought. Especially when you leave it in a rainy waterfront equipment yard for four years without ever glancing at it.

Voltage
Sep 4, 2004

MALT LIQUOR!
Amazingly relavent article, guy crashes his Z06 into the back of a semi: http://jalopnik.com/this-corvette-crash-should-have-severed-this-driver-s-h-451603754

Kill-9
Aug 2, 2004

You've got the cutest little baby face...

Done exactly that with a Harbor Freight vice trying to press in bushings. *CRACK*

peepsalot
Apr 24, 2007

        PEEP THIS...
           BITCH!

Kill-9 posted:

Done exactly that with a Harbor Freight vice trying to press in bushings. *CRACK*

Yeah the guy was trying to press in some kind of u joint bushings. I don't know 100% if its harbor freight or not, but I wouldn't be surprised. He got an actual hydraulic press after this.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
Doing u-joints with a press or a vise is the easy way to hate yourself and buy more new parts than you needed to.

5 minutes with a flat screwdriver, a BFH, and a vise. I can quite have a jeep drive to me and replace a ujoint in under 30 minutes including taking the wheel off and pulling the axleshaft, even if the unit bearing hasn't been out of the knuckle in years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PpR-DcRV08

Versus screwing around with a press, wondering if it's going to pop loose, wondering if the ears are going to break/bend, etc.

I'll use the vise+BFH method every time.

peepsalot
Apr 24, 2007

        PEEP THIS...
           BITCH!

There was a bit of play on this impeller shaft

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InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Loaded up and trucking.We gonna do what they say cant be done.

Voltage posted:

Amazingly relavent article, guy crashes his Z06 into the back of a semi: http://jalopnik.com/this-corvette-crash-should-have-severed-this-driver-s-h-451603754



He is lucky as gently caress he hit a straight truck, not a semi trailer.

It came to me last night why they aren't adding more poo poo to the DOT bar, when your tandems are all the way to the rear end end, you'll hit poo poo like brake chambers and air ride poo poo back there.

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