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Wow, there's a new Shield thread, awesome! I feel genuine jealosy for those of you watching for the first time, as far as I'm concerned The Shield kicked off the whole "cable dramas are awesome and there's no looking back" trend that started in the early 2000's, so congratulations! The series finale is one of the best ever, I mean ever, if you don't shed many tears you have no soul.
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Sock The Great posted:Wow, there's a new Shield thread, awesome! I feel genuine jealosy for those of you watching for the first time, as far as I'm concerned The Shield kicked off the whole "cable dramas are awesome and there's no looking back" trend that started in the early 2000's, so congratulations! The way Sopranos paved the way for The Wire, Deadwood, and all of the premium channel's amazing serialized dramas; I feel The Shield is analogous for doing this on cable. Justified, Breaking Bad, Sons of Anarchy... surely I'm forgetting so many, but you get the point. As an aside, I bet FX will never forgive themselves for passing on Breaking Bad.
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Jan 8, 2013 19:08
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I thought Oz started it all?
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Jan 8, 2013 21:08
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:I thought Oz started it all? That's a debate we've had in the Sopranos thread. Oz was not a household name though. It didn't blow HBO up like The Sopranos did. It did, however, introduce the "any character can be killed off at any time, regardless of how important they are" trend, for sure.
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Jan 8, 2013 21:13
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Ah, ok. I remember HBO touting it as their first hour-long serial drama, but I definitely agree that the Sopranos was the first 'big' show.
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Jan 8, 2013 21:18
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escape artist posted:That's a debate we've had in the Sopranos thread. Oz was not a household name though. It didn't blow HBO up like The Sopranos did. It did, however, introduce the "any character can be killed off at any time, regardless of how important they are" trend, for sure. Good thing too since the actor that was the focus of the first episode is fucken horrible. Jon Seda is such a bad bad actor. Then the other major character killed was amazing and one of the better death penalty storylines.
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Jan 8, 2013 21:20
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Just had my first "HOLY poo poo" moment- Season 3, Episode 5 "Mum" wherein Aceveda is forced to suck a dick at gunpoint. Wow. Am I alone in finding the Julian storyline boring? I like the character but a lot of his arc feels tacked on to me, unless later on down the road his struggle with his gay identity and his conflicts at work cause him to go completely off the deep end or something.
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Jan 10, 2013 15:22
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pahuyuth posted:Just had my first "HOLY poo poo" moment- Season 3, Episode 5 "Mum" wherein Aceveda is forced to suck a dick at gunpoint. Wow. Na After he gets blackmailed it is really not important. There are little things that show that yes he is still gay and the anti gay poo poo is worthless, but it has no more impact on the plot
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Jan 10, 2013 15:25
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I started my rewatch and I was thinking about it and I think they should have held off on revealing Armidilo so fast. Even just an episode or 2. Maybe could have hung the mystery of the tatooed dove or something. It just seems there's a huge gap between Armidilo getting stabbed and the Money Train. Speaking of that gap, I think a pissed off Gilroy could have been milked for a bigger storyline as well. It doesn't matter in the end, I still love the 2nd season.
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Jan 24, 2013 19:38
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TUS posted:I started my rewatch and I was thinking about it and I think they should have held off on revealing Armidilo so fast. Even just an episode or 2. Maybe could have hung the mystery of the tatooed dove or something. It just seems there's a huge gap between Armidilo getting stabbed and the Money Train. Speaking of that gap, I think a pissed off Gilroy could have been milked for a bigger storyline as well. It doesn't matter in the end, I still love the 2nd season. I agree somewhat, but remember, they probably needed a good storyline early in the season to increase the chances of getting a third season. Besides, I find all seasons before Season 4 flawed, and Season 6 flawed too, but necessary... Did we really need 15 episodes in Season 3???
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Jan 25, 2013 12:23
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escape artist posted:I agree somewhat, but remember, they probably needed a good storyline early in the season to increase the chances of getting a third season. Besides, I find all seasons before Season 4 flawed, and Season 6 flawed too, but necessary... Did we really need 15 episodes in Season 3??? Season 3 is weirdly put together. It seemed like it was to spotlight Dutch and Claudette more, especially with the Cuddler Rapist plotline. As well as Acceveda and the sexual assault on him and the Armenian/Money Train plotline book-ending the season. But the season finale of S3 is one of my favorites. No real cliffhanger, no action segment, just awesome dialogue and amazing acting. Now Im on season 4 and I think this is the first time I've heard a live version of a song as part of an episode's soundtrack, when they play a live version of the Dropkick Murphy's cover of Amazing Grace.
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Jan 28, 2013 21:20
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I'm trying to figure out, during my rewatch, which season is more intense, 5 or 7? What sucks is that I'm watching it with my fiancee. and she already knows about Lem. However, she has no idea how S7's going to go down. 
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Jan 28, 2013 23:29
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I always enjoy showing The Shield to people after they watch the Avengers movies and they figure out who the cuddler rapist is.
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Jan 29, 2013 00:35
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:I'm trying to figure out, during my rewatch, which season is more intense, 5 or 7? I'd say five because Kavanaugh vs Strike Team was done really well over the entire season and there's nothing more heartbreaking then S5's end. bobkatt013 posted:I always enjoy showing The Shield to people after they watch the Avengers movies and they figure out who the cuddler rapist is. Hahah holy poo poo I didn't even recognize him.
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Jan 29, 2013 01:25
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bobkatt013 posted:I always enjoy showing The Shield to people after they watch the Avengers movies and they figure out who the cuddler rapist is. AHHH! AHHHHHHHHHHHH!
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Jan 29, 2013 01:53
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Yeah, I'd seen Iron Man before my first time watching this show, and I thought it was weird.... 'wait, he represented S.H.I.E.L.D... and he's IN The Shield? WEIRD!' Also, the woman who plays his wife, is she british? Her accent was off. EDIT: Guess not. Direct from U.S.A. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0682071 Rupert Buttermilk fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Jan 29, 2013 |
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Jan 29, 2013 02:19
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Just finished my rewatch of the show. Goddamn, still love it just as much as the first time. One weird thing is that I totally screwed up my timeline for when stuff happens. I thought that the (season 6-7 spoilers) Pasuela poo poo finished up at the end of S6, and that it didn't spill all the way over season 7. I mean, watching it again, I can clearly see how it had to, though.
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Feb 14, 2013 03:26
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So hey, The Shield is on Amazon Streaming, and it's free to Prime members.
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I just started watching after seeing recommendations in the SONS and The Wire threads. I'm 6 episodes in and really enjoying it. I can see where Sutter's fetishes were portrayed early on in his screenwriting career.isk posted:So hey, The Shield is on Amazon Streaming, and it's free to Prime members. Is it? I just logged into Prime on my TV and it was $1.99/ episode Edit: n/m found the option doesn't charge me. geeves fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Mar 5, 2013 |
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Mar 5, 2013 05:54
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geeves posted:I just started watching after seeing recommendations in the SONS and The Wire threads. I'm 6 episodes in and really enjoying it. I can see where Sutter's fetishes were portrayed early on in his screenwriting career. Please post your opinions as you move through the seasons, so those of us can vicariously live it again. Also, avoid spoilers like the plague.
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Mar 5, 2013 12:40
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AV Club has started a weekly Shield recap. http://www.avclub.com/articles/pilot,93237/
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escape artist posted:Please post your opinions as you move through the seasons, so those of us can vicariously live it again. I've been on a marathon watch this weekend and I'm currently well in to season 3. Which probably doesn't lend itself well to analysis. I remember watching an episode or two at some point when it first aired (season 2 ep 11: Jacob Hale may / may not have forcibly raped - yes it's still statutory regardless - an underage employee) and basically thinking it was Law and Order on steroids without the lawyers. It's perhaps expected and difficult not to compare the show to its contemporary, The Wire, and its successor (at least by way of Writer and some actors) Sons of Anarchy. Dutch and Claudette are probably my favorite characters at the moment, especially their chemistry in the interrogation / interview rooms. Dutch's fascination and instant jump to psychosexual psychological profiles is hilarious and a nice consistent character moment, he reminds me a bit of "Spooky" Mulder from The X-Files. Dutch, Claudette, Aceveda, Gillroy and Vic also seem to be a weird amalgamation of Ed Exley, Bud White, Dudley Smith and Jack Vincennes from L.A. Confidential. It's not a 1:1 comparison by any means, but primarily shows in the way they all reluctantly work together (or against each other) to get the job done (or get ahead) through the means they know best, especially in the way the show is set up in its hyper-realistic world. As for the comparison with The Wire (character spoilers for both shows), Vic and Corrine are an interesting prologue (that we never got to see, but we can largely put the pieces together) to McNulty and Elena's estrangement ultimately divorce. For Sons of Anarchy, it's more of the storytelling style. It's very loose with chronology / timeframe in which the story takes place. It is one of more convenience and plot necessity. It also plays this fast and loose style of continual backstabbing / side switching that causes the view to be more lost in the story (especially the Strike Team's) so that teh viewer is surprised at the end of the episode or season, instead of having a really well thought out plot and pace that, while is easy to miss on the first view, makes more sense in the long term stability of those plot points. geeves fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Mar 11, 2013 |
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Mar 11, 2013 03:12
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I love the idea of Vic as Dudley Smith. I imagine that had he been around in the 50s he would have been able to run things his way for a looooong time.
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Mexcillent posted:If you're Latino/Mexican the show is hilarious because no one in the writer's room cared about correct Spanish, correct Spanish names, or anything plausible dealing with Latinos other than Aceveda. You have a guy's name change from Diego to Dieger because Chiklis can't pronounce Spanish, the Armadillo poo poo, etc. When i rewatch the shield sometimes I laugh at the dialogue they give to everyone. Obviously the show is about moving along and giving you good and generally witty one liners, but some of the gang slang and random crap any gang members spout is not particularly good. It's like what a guy who has no exposure to people like that would think they may talk about. One of my favorite character moments in the entire series was in season 7 when they set up Shane to get murdered at the junkyard but then Vic has one of those bullshit moments where he doesn't want Shane to die for some reason and tries to call him all the while Julian is in the car so Vic and Ronnie have to talk in coded language and Ronnie is full on board with Shane getting iced right then and there. Just a great moment showing how hypocritical Vic is at times and full of self righteousness.
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Great thread idea! I absolutely love that there's a push like this to get new people to experience this, one of the best shows in TV history, and one of my faves. I end up doing a full re-watch at least twice a year because of just how good every aspect is. The only part of the show I hate is the early two seasons of Julien's storyline. What's spoiled is relating to that. There's nothing more despicable than how he thinks of homosexuality and himself. It's actually infuriating to me, because I know just how much of that crap exists in real life, and Julien is otherwise an actually decent person. Ugh. By the way, anyone who hasn't checked out Justified, I cannot recommend doing so strongly enough. EASILY the best TV series since The Shield, in my mind. Apoplexy fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Mar 20, 2013 |
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Apoplexy posted:Great thread idea! I absolutely love that there's a push like this to get new people to experience this, one of the best shows in TV history, and one of my faves. I end up doing a full re-watch at least twice a year because of just how good every aspect is. The only part of the show I hate is the early two seasons of Julien's storyline. There's nothing more despicable than how he thinks of homosexuality and himself. It's actually infuriating to me, because I know just how much of that crap exists in real life, and Julien is otherwise an actually decent person. Ugh. It shows how religon can destroy someones happiness. I also like the fact that they show how full of poo poo the pray the gay movement is. There is the moment when he is at the sperm bank and then in the last episode in which he looks at the gay couple.
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bobkatt013 posted:It shows how religon can destroy someones happiness. I also like the fact that they show how full of poo poo the pray the gay movement is. There is the moment when he is at the sperm bank and then in the last episode in which he looks at the gay couple. Definitely. It's such a good exploration of that aspect of our culture that never gets touched upon, though-- the inner turmoil of someone who's been so indoctrinated into the garbage that is anti-gay religious intolerance that he even attempts to get the one suspect, at one point in S1, to kill him. That and how his wife initially responded to the revelation, with a 'but my boy looks up to you!' as if he's now an awful role model and parental figure. It's just so disgusting, but it's such a realistic depiction. This show was so damned great.
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Mar 20, 2013 14:25
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The worst thing about it was I seem to remember the actor saying in an interview that Julian was 'cured'.
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Mar 20, 2013 14:45
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Junkenstein posted:The worst thing about it was I seem to remember the actor saying in an interview that Julian was 'cured'. When was this in the shows run? If it was around the time that storyline started then I could sort of understand, but they went out of the way to make it so it was clear he was not.
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Mar 20, 2013 14:48
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Well Shawn Ryan has gone on record as saying that this show takes place over (I forget now but I think just two or three years) so Julian being cured is true in that sense since Ryan explained in these sort of real life arcs they may suppress their feelings for a while until it bubbles back. So in the context of the latter half of the series he was "cured" but it was still a struggle.
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Been catching up on this thread to hear the reactions of people new to the series and just wanted to re-post this excellent post-mortem interview of the show's finale with Alan Sepinwall talking with Shawn Ryan. If you've recently caught up on the show I would highly recommend it after watching the finale. LINK CONTAINS SERIES FINALE SPOILERS!! PRO CLICK IF YOU HAVE FINISHED THE ENTIRE SHOW. NO CLICK IF YOU HAVE NOT -> http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2008/11/shield-shawn-ryan-post-finale-q.html
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Like I mentioned in the binge thread, I have finally jumped on The Shield train. I'm only a couple episodes in so far, but now that I have a few days off, I'm going to watch the hell out of it. The pilot blew me away, it was one of the best pilots I have ever seen. I can't believe Vic killed Crowley. As I was watching the episode, I thought for sure this season would revolve around a chess match between those two. But nope, Vic shot the dude in the head. I let out an audible "holy poo poo" when that happened. If THAT is the pilot, I can't imagine how much better it gets from here.
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Please give us regular updates as your viewing progresses. We all love to live vicariously through newbies.
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Restarting my....third? Fourth? Run through of this show, just turned on the pilot. I've missed the gang! Haven't seen an episode of this since like 2010. I like how this show hits the ground running. Dude sells his child for crack  Ok who took my ding dongs Tom Brady fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Mar 25, 2013 |
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Mar 25, 2013 17:34
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Conquistador posted:Restarting my....third? Fourth? Run through of this show, just turned on the pilot. I've missed the gang! Haven't seen an episode of this since like 2010. If there is one thing this show needs and that is the baby merchant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_3AaY1BG8k
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Mar 25, 2013 18:13
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I lasted 25 seconds
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Conquistador posted:I lasted 25 seconds YOu can not handle the amazing Cop Rock?
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Third episode, they are holding the basketball player so that his team won't get a win. Couple things: Shane immediately saying he has to call his bookie was hilarious, and then when Aceveda takes Vic's line (almost) verbatim as to where the athlete is, re: female admirer/deep in snatch This is literally the first no spoiler thread I've ever posted in, is poo poo like that even worth the tags or just basically safe to do everything?
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Mar 25, 2013 19:46
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Ordinarily I don't probate for empty quoting but in this case I'll make an exception 
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