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grover posted:The chairman of the house intelligence committee is reporting Assad used chemical weapons against opposition forces. Any videos or photos in the blogosphere about it?  gently caress i hope he's just a moron and reporting inaccurate poo poo
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gfanikf posted:Is this a new report, because otherwise its still he said she said and no confirmation what happend except people sick with respitory issues that could be from an attack releasing a random chemical/industrial thing. Assad was claiming it was the rebels, Rebels claiming it was an Assad launched scud. Both sides are claiming the other just used chemical weapons. Syrian state TV is claiming that it was a rebel attack that killed 25 and wounded 86, and released this alleged photo of a chemical attack victim: 
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Mar 20, 2013 01:18
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bradass87 posted:
I suspect he's just repeating what's been said. Here is the quote quote:"I have a high probability to believe that chemical weapons were used," Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) told CNN Tuesday night. "We need that final verification, but given everything we know over the last year and a half, I would come to the conclusion that they are either positioned for use, and ready to do that, or in fact have been used." Seems like he's just pulling things out of his rear end. E. grover posted:As of about a half hour ago: http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/19/world/meast/syria-civil-war/index.html Yeah, I seem to recall seeing that photo this morning, so I'm thinking this is still just out of the rear end talk. Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Mar 20, 2013 |
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Mar 20, 2013 01:20
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What's with the guy in the back left corner not even wearing his mask correctly
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Mar 20, 2013 15:30
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If he were a chemical attack victim I would expect either visible burns (they wouldn't have that sheet over a burned area) or at least some kind of breathing equipment.
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Mar 20, 2013 15:55
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Godholio posted:If he were a chemical attack victim I would expect either visible burns (they wouldn't have that sheet over a burned area) or at least some kind of breathing equipment. Thats not how they work.
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Mar 20, 2013 17:15
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Who is "they?" Edit: V Fair enough. Mustard is pretty much my brain's go-to example whenever I think about them. Godholio fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Mar 20, 2013 |
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Mar 20, 2013 17:22
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Godholio posted:Who is "they?" Chemical Weapons. From my limited knowledge of the subject, only a few kinds of chem weapons leave physical marks on the skin.
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Mar 20, 2013 17:27
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Not all chemical agents are blistering agents, there are blood, choking and nerve agents that are much, much worse. Being hit with nerve gas wouldn't leave burns, but it would kill you just as well (actually better)
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Mar 20, 2013 17:47
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Frosted Flake posted:Not all chemical agents are blistering agents, there are blood, choking and nerve agents that are much, much worse. Are blistering agents the easiest to make? I'm basing this off nothing but nerve agents sounds difficult to use and make.
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Mar 20, 2013 17:49
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HATE CURES TRANNYS posted:Are blistering agents the easiest to make? I'm basing this off nothing but nerve agents sounds difficult to use and make. Yes. They're the oldest and the simplest and there are larger stockpiles of them around the world. Nerve gas is complicated, and even if you side has good CBRN training and equipment (which I doubt the Syrians do) it's still dangerous to use on the frontline.
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Mar 20, 2013 17:52
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Friend just sent this to me. 
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Mar 20, 2013 18:42
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Booblord Zagats posted:Friend just sent this to me. Pffft that's nothing. When I got out here as a contractor, introduction to the S2 section on my FOB was "Check out this footage we got of this goat herder..." Then it turns out the guys operating the camera were initially watching some diggers on the road, saw some extra activity, panned over to a guy loving a goat. I'm not sure if they ever went back to the diggers or not.
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Mar 20, 2013 20:03
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Wasabi the J posted:Pffft that's nothing. When I got out here as a contractor, introduction to the S2 section on my FOB was "Check out this footage we got of this goat herder..." The perfect smokescreen. This post should be removed for OPSEC before the enemy realizes that a dude loving a goat will distract are troops from any other activity going on in the area.
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Mar 20, 2013 20:39
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LEGIT WAR CRIMINAL posted:
Well, unless that general from the "bomb the dude giving another dude a blowjob" story in the O_o thread is watching the feed, in which case the goat fucker will get a a hellfire for his heinous crime against the one true Lord.
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Mar 20, 2013 21:59
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Frosted Flake posted:Yes. They're the oldest and the simplest and there are larger stockpiles of them around the world. Nerve gas is complicated, and even if you side has good CBRN training and equipment (which I doubt the Syrians do) it's still dangerous to use on the frontline. This is mostly true-ish. I wont give a chem lesson but the reason no one uses blister for anything other than area denial is that dispersing it is retarded. Also there is probably way more nerve agent than anything else. Nerve agents aren't THAT hard to manufacture. It's just super powerful RAID.
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Mar 20, 2013 22:28
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The way I see it if the rebels are responsible for the attack then it means they have access to chemical weapons, and a method to launch them over 30km, which is pretty bad news all round. Not that I've seen them ever use anything that could launch a chemical warhead 30km, so the whole thing is a bit fishy. I'm still favouring the theory this is a chemical leak caused by a rocket attack, or something along those lines. A strong chlorine smell was reported at the scene of the attack, and unless the Syrian army has gone retro I doubt they've got chlorine based warheads on their long range missiles.
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Mar 20, 2013 22:44
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Wasn't there video of rebels in CBRN gear not that long ago? I at least remember seeing a few videos where all the rebels are wearing gas masks.
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Mar 20, 2013 22:49
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Frosted Flake posted:Wasn't there video of rebels in CBRN gear not that long ago? I at least remember seeing a few videos where all the rebels are wearing gas masks. There were rebels wearing gas masks, but that could have been for any number of reasons, they could have got their hands on tear gas or something similar for instance.
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Mar 20, 2013 23:00
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iyaayas01 posted:Well, unless that general from the "bomb the dude giving another dude a blowjob" story in the O_o thread is watching the feed, in which case the goat fucker will get a a hellfire for his heinous crime against the one true Lord. That story just makes me shudder with the probable war crime. Regarding my story, I do remember hearing vaguely that the guys in charge of monitoring got in trouble over it, but the video is legend out here still.
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Mar 20, 2013 23:16
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Requesting HDI's story about JSTARS vectoring F-16s on something unexpected. Edited to remove the Shyamalan twist.
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Mar 20, 2013 23:21
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Wasabi the J posted:That story just makes me shudder with the probable war crime. I'm really hoping it's shitthatdidnthappen.txt and the Air Force didn't waste a JDAM on two horny arab dudes having a night on the town.
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Mar 20, 2013 23:37
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Can-O-Raid posted:I'm really hoping it's shitthatdidnthappen.txt and the Air Force didn't waste a JDAM on two horny arab dudes having a night on the town. Well they could have stopped for a quickie before going IED planting...granted evidence of that would be better than JDAM CURES BLOWJOBS.
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Mar 20, 2013 23:41
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Did anyone hear reports about a second chemical attack near Damacas? I didn't hear about this yesterday at all, and that is when the article is from. http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/03/19/syria-chemical-weapons-second-attack-damascus quote:They also state regime forces fired chemical bombs on Damascus, causing "nausea, vomiting, headache, violent and hysterical paralysis of the nerves." Three have died so far, they said in an email to Sakka. They sent this video which appears to depict a man undergoing treatment for chemical exposure: http://youtu.be/UwbFPMMxEjY
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Mar 21, 2013 02:10
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gfanikf posted:Did anyone hear reports about a second chemical attack near Damacas? I didn't hear about this yesterday at all, and that is when the article is from. If they fired chemical weapons into a city and only killed 3 people and gave the others some headaches and nausea, those are some broke-rear end chemical weapons. Bad storage?
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Can-O-Raid posted:I'm really hoping it's shitthatdidnthappen.txt and the Air Force didn't waste a JDAM on two horny arab dudes having a night on the town.
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Mar 21, 2013 02:24
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Phanatic posted:If they fired chemical weapons into a city and only killed 3 people and gave the others some headaches and nausea, those are some broke-rear end chemical weapons. Bad storage? Got me. I'm more willing to believe this is a random side effect of a conventional attack than anything else. That said there is an interesting theory that these are small attacks intended to probe the Wests response and see if they can go past the red line without a response. Hell the claim of the rebels using CW almost seems like it sets up a justification for retaliatory strikes. Its also possible the attacks are using low grade weapons or components to lower the thresholds. I mean chlorine bomb gets different reaction than VX.
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Mar 21, 2013 02:55
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Since we've been on the subject of North Korea, this is a fairly interesting talk about the regime which I just watched: http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/292562-1
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Mar 21, 2013 03:10
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Casimir Radon posted:It's a Shim story so it's hopefully bullshit, along with the rest of his stories. Wasn't a shim story. And words hurt, ya know.
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Mar 21, 2013 03:25
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I was under the impression that the Syrians have one of the largest and most advanced chemical weapons stockpiles around, so it would surprise me if they decided to start using it for what appears to be a very small engagement. That, or they're testing the waters to see if the President will actually do something about it.
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Mar 21, 2013 04:35
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Red Crown posted:I was under the impression that the Syrians have one of the largest and most advanced chemical weapons stockpiles around, so it would surprise me if they decided to start using it for what appears to be a very small engagement. That, or they're testing the waters to see if the President will actually do something about it. That really old can of Raid in your garage is filled with stuff that is one less gay half of a hexane ring away from being a potent sophisticated nerve gas delivery system. I mean technically it still a nerve gas, just the kind that works on cockroaches and poo poo.
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Mar 21, 2013 06:42
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gfanikf posted:Did anyone hear reports about a second chemical attack near Damacas? I didn't hear about this yesterday at all, and that is when the article is from. I think it's a bit dubious, could be the opposition faking it to counter the claims of a chemical attack in Aleppo. Neither incident has produced any evidence of what was used to deliver the chemical weapon. With Syria it's generally best to assume all reports of chemical attacks are bullshit until actual solid evidence is provided.
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Mar 21, 2013 11:08
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 quote:President Barack Obama, right, and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, front left, walk along to red carpet for a troop review during an arrival ceremony as Obama arrives at the Muqata Presidential Compound Thursday, March 21, 2013, in the West Bank town of Ramallah. Nice beret dude. Even if it is an infamous green one it still looks kind of dumb when everyone else is dressed up so nicely. Also a little surprised about how nice those Palestinian guys' uniforms are.
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Mar 21, 2013 13:45
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I'm honestly surprised the Secret Service let him go to Palestine, they're paranoid dudes. Then again the former agents were really loving disappointed in whoever let W land on that carrier so maybe they knuckle under a lot more now.
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Mar 21, 2013 14:09
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wdarkk posted:I'm honestly surprised the Secret Service let him go to Palestine, they're paranoid dudes. Then again the former agents were really loving disappointed in whoever let W land on that carrier so maybe they knuckle under a lot more now. Well someone screwed up and let the limo get the wrong fuel type, which considering how nuts they are with AF1 fuel supply is really surprising. The fact the car stopped due to it is a huge gently caress up.
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Mar 21, 2013 15:11
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I always wondered if the secret service has a lot of sway in the president's travel. I wonder how often he says gently caress you I'm going to this place.
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Mar 21, 2013 15:23
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GAS CURES KIKES posted:Wasn't a shim story. Maybe it was a word attack rather than CW.
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Mar 21, 2013 15:37
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GAS CURES KIKES posted:Wasn't a shim story.
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Mar 21, 2013 15:54
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Godholio posted:Requesting HDI's story about JSTARS vectoring F-16s on something unexpected. Lol my buddy vectored the two F-16s on some suspicious looking GMTI returns. Turns out it was two mules loving and a third one watching. Highlight was when the wingman said "I'm going to pee myself" and my buddy saying "copy two mules loving" over the radio. Pilots gave us the video on SIPR and it owned. I spent the entire year looking for it again but I couldn't find it. I'd like to think it is still out there   JSTARS is an awesome wildlife tracker and that's about it
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