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BlindSite posted:There is nothing better than a 48 year old man making funny noises while describing how to hurt people with a dutch accent. *curl up on the floor in the fetal position before a single blow is landed
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Julio Cesar Fatass posted:Bas Rutten's Harley Davidson Keys to Victory "Win - TKO (Bangada bangada bang)"
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Mar 20, 2013 16:56
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My favorite part of Bas Rutten is his self-defense in real life videos that you slowly realize are actually tapes describing how to attack someone without them being able to respond. Like his barfight video. "This guy might attack someone. I should probably hit him in the balls with a chair and then bada bop his head off the corner of the bar."
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Mar 21, 2013 18:32
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-pd3ekzVr8
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Mar 21, 2013 22:55
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Bas and Chael calling fights together would be... I don't know. I think it'd be awesome but maybe it's like having all chocolate sauce no ice-cream and you'd just feel sick after?
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Mar 22, 2013 00:27
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LordPants posted:Bas and Chael calling fights together would be... I don't know. I think it'd be awesome but maybe it's like having all chocolate sauce no ice-cream and you'd just feel sick after? Just add Don Frye to the mix.
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Mar 22, 2013 01:17
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Can anyone recommend some Bas fights to watch? He sounds awesome but he was before I got into it so I feel like I'm missing out.
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Mar 22, 2013 02:59
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Stoven posted:Can anyone recommend some Bas fights to watch? He sounds awesome but he was before I got into it so I feel like I'm missing out. On youtube there's a highlight video of him wrecking people with body shots in Pancrase. Anytime you see Rutten in budgie smugglers and knee high boots/pads expect to see someone die from a body shot or cool submission.
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Mar 22, 2013 03:02
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Stoven posted:Can anyone recommend some Bas fights to watch? He sounds awesome but he was before I got into it so I feel like I'm missing out. Bas vs Jason "Not Frank Shamrock" DeLucia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YX6Csswsk0 vs Funaki 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8neJDeiYsA
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Mar 22, 2013 03:04
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Max Awfuls posted:Just add Don Frye to the mix. Drunk-rear end Bas and even drunker Don were the best MMA team on the planet. Shark Fights never stop swimming (because you'd die).
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Mar 22, 2013 03:09
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Stoven posted:Can anyone recommend some Bas fights to watch? He sounds awesome but he was before I got into it so I feel like I'm missing out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNfYDKST95Y
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Mar 22, 2013 03:24
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Stoven posted:Can anyone recommend some Bas fights to watch? He sounds awesome but he was before I got into it so I feel like I'm missing out. I thought Bas/Randleman was good, but it might not be to everyone's taste.
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Mar 22, 2013 03:29
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Eat This Glob posted:Drunk-rear end Bas and even drunker Don were the best MMA team on the planet. Shark Fights never stop swimming (because you'd die). Wasn't there a 3rd commentator that, upon hearing Don say "that's like me going home drunk and whoopin on my old lady," went "whoa whoa whoa take it easy." ?
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Mar 22, 2013 03:51
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Stoven posted:Can anyone recommend some Bas fights to watch? He sounds awesome but he was before I got into it so I feel like I'm missing out. The highlight DVD he did commentating his Pancrase fights is entertaining enough. His second fight with Funaki and the Frank Shamrock fight are probably the best to check out. His two fights in the UFC are worth seeing (TK and Randleman), both were controversial as hell at the time.
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Mar 22, 2013 04:47
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This person wins the internet. And then you wanna watch some Pride fights with his commentary, that was great.
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A guy was telling me about a Bas fight where he leg kicked the guy, who was visibly hur by itt, then Bas pointed at his leg, like 'oh, that hurt huh, I'm going to do it again', then head kicked him instead and KOd him What fight was that if it actually happened? It seems like a Bas kinda thing to do.
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Mar 22, 2013 10:36
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Bas on Joe Rogan's podcast was actually interesting, if for no other reason than Joe trying to make sense of Bas and his autodidact madman grappling methods.
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LordPants posted:This person wins the internet. This And this And this And this And this
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Julio Cesar Fatass posted:Bas on Joe Rogan's podcast was actually interesting, if for no other reason than Joe trying to make sense of Bas and his autodidact madman grappling methods. The stories about him trolling ninjas and kung fu people were amazing.
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Mar 24, 2013 03:34
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man that op is mad out of date.
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Mar 24, 2013 22:25
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John Cena posted:man that op is mad out of date. There's a "general questions" thread that has kind of taken its place.
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Mar 25, 2013 03:53
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I understand training hard for an upcoming fight and whatnot but beating the poo poo out of each other in training and then getting knocked out of the fight/payday you are training for because of an injury like a cut seems really pointless and it seems like it happens fairly often. Why aren't they wearing headguards/faceguards if they're going to go at it that badly during training sessions? I mean it's not going to give you the true fight experience or whatever but being able to make it to the octagon has to be better than not at all.
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Mar 31, 2013 18:54
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Do headguards actually prevent knockouts? I've always thought that at best they just impair your peripheral vision, which probably leads to more concussions due to you not seeing punches coming at you. If you don't spar hard you'll end up like Brock Lesnar, a guy with a decent chin who still crumbles the minute he gets hurt.
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Mar 31, 2013 19:06
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1st AD posted:Do headguards actually prevent knockouts? I've always thought that at best they just impair your peripheral vision, which probably leads to more concussions due to you not seeing punches coming at you. Research shows that headgear blunts the impact to your head.
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Julio Cesar Fatass posted:Research shows that headgear blunts the impact to your head. Do you have a link to anything supporting that? I've only been told that headgear really just prevents cuts
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henkman posted:Do you have a link to anything supporting that? I've only been told that headgear really just prevents cuts Dude just think of the physics... the headgear allows the impact to be spread out over a wider and larger surface area, therefor reducing the amount of force to any one point of impact aka BLUNTING the impact. Headgear does not prevent being knocked out, as the "majority" (don't have any sources for this) of knock outs are the result of unanticipated rotational force of the head, of which headgear does not provide much prevention against.
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Mar 31, 2013 21:21
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So, yes?
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Mar 31, 2013 23:30
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Yes, it protects you somewhat against the concussive force. That being said it's not going to stop you injuring your brain, being knocked out or CTE. It's also more designed and used in the modern fight game to stop people from getting cut.
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I don't have the link to the abstract handy, but it was a study from the Cleveland Clinic. They found that headgear does a good job blunting force from in-line impacts, not so good a job with impacts caused by rotation.
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But even by adding mass to your head, it'll have more moment of inertia to resist torque impulses. Lt. Shiny Sides linked a study in the martial arts thread showing that overall, headgear did reduce acceleration from punches (and I would surmise all strikes). But striking and head trauma is far more sophisticated than just that. That said, most pros do train with headgear. Many use gloves when doing everything but fine-grained submissions.
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The fact that the headgear can compress (a lot more than a skull anyway) must do something to reduce the acceleration of the head due to any given strike. That sort of leads back to the old argument about whether boxing gloves end up causing more brain damage via more repetitive low-level injury, but a single blow is surely at least somewhat less likely to knock you out when wearing head gear.
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Mr. Carlisle posted:I understand training hard for an upcoming fight and whatnot but beating the poo poo out of each other in training and then getting knocked out of the fight/payday you are training for because of an injury like a cut seems really pointless and it seems like it happens fairly often. If you're talking about the Gustafsson cut, he didn't get it from a punch or a kick during a sparring session. He was doing wrestling drills and he lost his balance and hit his head on a post.
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Why are 12-6 elbows banned in UFC?
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Patrick Spens posted:Why are 12-6 elbows banned in UFC? Because very early on in the development of the unified rules, some of the regulators watched a karate breaking competition and decided that looked "too dangerous".
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fatherdog posted:Because very early on in the development of the unified rules, some of the regulators watched a karate breaking competition and decided that looked "too dangerous". I thought this was a myth... 
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That's the Joe Rogan version of events. According to Big John McCarthy it had to do with a doctor involved in the original NJ sanctioning discussions:quote:because New Jersey wasn’t comfortable with Mixed Martial Arts at the time, there were a couple of fights that went on to change things as far as what they were going to permit and not permit. The story's pretty unclear, it kind of makes it sound like the doctor's actual concern was strikes to the back of the head/spine, and the rule mutated during discussions or was just really poorly written. To be fair, it's entirely possible that both stories are true. One doctor could have freaked out about those elbows to the back of the head and other people could have "agreed" that downward elbows were too dangerous based on seeing karate breaking. Either way it's a fairly dumb rule. The only actual justification I can see for it is that with a true 12-6 elbow against a fighter flat on his back, the head is against the mat and can't move with the strike at all. If the elbow has a little angle on it the head can move with it a bit. But you're allowed to punch the poo poo out of a fighter from mount so I'm not sure that's meaningful.
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When a fighter is lying supine and immobile on the mat it's usually a sign that Herb Dean is about to tackle a motherfucker
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Or Mazzagatti forgot to stop the fight.
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Thermos H Christ posted:That's the Joe Rogan version of events. According to Big John McCarthy it had to do with a doctor involved in the original NJ sanctioning discussions: It's an unfortunate law that could've been covered by the "no strikes to the back of the head" rule that was brought in when the UFC was bending over to commissions etc to get the sport back into the public eye. It'd be nice if it was changed, it would certainly make ground and pound fighters more effective. It sucks it's there but you can understand why.
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