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Wezlar posted:I don't really know how videogames are written but I don't really understand why adding more writers is a goal? Like if I was crowdfunding a novel I wouldn't want chapters written by someone completely different. This game is a sequel to what many believe to be the best written game ever made, more or less, so writers are important in this instance in particular.
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BenRGamer posted:This game is a sequel to what many believe to be the best written game ever made, more or less, so writers are important in this instance in particular. What I mean is.. why MORE writers. Are having more different people writing this game going to make it have a more coherent voice/narrative or are they just going to muddle it up? What are these people bringing to the table?
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# ? Mar 22, 2013 03:39 |
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A video game has very little in common with a novel. More writers means more content, more variety and more lore. When you're writing unique quests and characters, it doesn't really matter if they all come from the same creative vision of a single auteur.
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# ? Mar 22, 2013 03:40 |
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Presumably he'd be responsible for a quest chain or a small area. I'm not a fan of his novels by any means but he does have a good writing style, I think. I also had a kneejerk reaction against it but I bet in the end his contribution will either fit in so that you won't notice or will be noticeably good.
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Mozi posted:Presumably he'd be responsible for a quest chain or a small area. I'm not a fan of his novels by any means but he does have a good writing style, I think. I also had a kneejerk reaction against it but I bet in the end his contribution will either fit in so that you won't notice or will be noticeably good. Brother None posted:Patrick will probably be writing together with a level designer who does the actual design stuff, so he can focus on writing dialog. We've done similar things with Wasteland.
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# ? Mar 22, 2013 03:42 |
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Wezlar posted:What I mean is.. why MORE writers. Are having more different people writing this game going to make it have a more coherent voice/narrative or are they just going to muddle it up? What are these people bringing to the table? Different characters sometimes need their own unique voice.
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# ? Mar 22, 2013 04:01 |
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The game's already met its goal so withdrawing my support does nothing but make rothfuss less likely. I can still buy it retail without losing out on anything. But I sure hope they don't put him on romance script duty.
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Wezlar posted:I don't really know how videogames are written but I don't really understand why adding more writers is a goal? Like if I was crowdfunding a novel I wouldn't want chapters written by someone completely different. Speaking of PS:T, check out how baller the voice cast was. I wonder how much they had to pay to get fuckin' Homer Simpson in the studio. Basic Chunnel fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Mar 22, 2013 |
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BenRGamer posted:Well, I mentioned the issue with Pat Rothfuss on the Kickstarter comment section where some people have withdrawn their money over that, and Colin McComb had this to say I agree with Colin there. Seriously, people literally withdrawing their funding because a writer they don't like might get to write a few sidequests? What the gently caress? Not liking him is fine, but withdrawing your support over the fact that he might, if the funding gets high enough, contribute a small amount to the game? Seriously? This isn't like Orson Scott Card where he's gonna use the money to promote awful causes or something.
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Wezlar posted:What I mean is.. why MORE writers. Are having more different people writing this game going to make it have a more coherent voice/narrative or are they just going to muddle it up? What are these people bringing to the table? Think of it this way; it means a bunch more minor characters are now able to have enough time dedicated to writing them that they can be fully-fleshed-out characters with backstory and interaction rather than cookie-cutter cliches banged out thoughtlessly.
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# ? Mar 22, 2013 05:14 |
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Humans Must Answer, a shmup led by two developers from STALKER. It has a small goal (£5000) and a demo that you should check out. £5 gets you the full game.
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Kenshin posted:I agree with Colin there. As I previously pointed out, the game is well past its goal already. The only use of money now is achieving stretch goals. I previously contributed enough to get the game, but now I'd rather it not achieve a particular stretch goal. The game is guaranteed to meet its goal now and I can just buy it at retail. No need to break out the psyduck emoticons, weird dude.
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# ? Mar 22, 2013 05:19 |
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http://www.oculusvr.com/blog/unboxing-shipping-update-and-faq/ Oculus posted an unboxing video / shiping update. The Dev Kit looks very polished. They are starting shipping in waves on the 29th. Can't wait for me!
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Saoshyant posted:Humans Must Answer, a shmup led by two developers from STALKER. It has a small goal (£5000) and a demo that you should check out. £5 gets you the full game.
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BenRGamer posted:Well, I mentioned the issue with Pat Rothfuss on the Kickstarter comment section where some people have withdrawn their money over that, and Colin McComb had this to say I'm not a big fan of Rothfuss' writing after the second book, but withdrawing money because he writes some stuff? That's pretty petty. Of course, overall it will bring them more money because for all his writing flaws Rothfuss has a huge and really committed group of fans.
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# ? Mar 22, 2013 07:38 |
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It's not actually withdrawing anything, though?
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# ? Mar 22, 2013 08:20 |
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There was a video on the last page where Pat interviewed Tycho, Colin and Veronica, and it seemed to imply he's mostly going to be called in for writing a side-quest at best, not a main writer, possibly enhance the dialog of some NPC's. He's a pretty huge fan of Torment though, and really seemed to want to learn how to write dialog for games and how that is different from writing books. But he is a huge grognard.
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# ? Mar 22, 2013 09:08 |
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I somehow missed that the Homeworld kickstarter existed, but I know now and it scares the poo poo out of me. On the one hand, gently caress yeah, Homeworld rereleases with modern graphics. On the other hand, I don't think I could ever play a game called Homeworld 3 and not be disappointed. Kickstarter, fulfilling dreams while crushing the poo poo out of your childhood.
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# ? Mar 22, 2013 09:09 |
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I'm kinda digging this. It's kinda like Gary's Mod meets Minecraft and its tech-based mods: Build A World https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNImu3n2_Go quote:Build A World combines the most beautiful graphics you could imagine with a sandbox construction game. You enter a brand new world with modern tools and with the ability to make modern machines, buildings and other constructions. An online game run by the new BAW engine. It's a modern game in a modern world.
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Orv posted:I somehow missed that the Homeworld kickstarter existed, but I know now and it scares the poo poo out of me. On the one hand, gently caress yeah, Homeworld rereleases with modern graphics. On the other hand, I don't think I could ever play a game called Homeworld 3 and not be disappointed. Kickstarter, fulfilling dreams while crushing the poo poo out of your childhood. It's a pipe dream.
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# ? Mar 22, 2013 09:35 |
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The Consortium people answered my questions about their story/action system and the whole non-lethal combat system and they seem like pretty good guys so go support them y'all.
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Shalinor posted:That it does. I cracked a smile when they zoomed back and it dropped into good ol' classic hex display. I used to love Panzer General, and the rest of those old great SSI strategy games - this really does look like that, but modern. Well boy howdy, then I've got great news for you! A company is making games that are pretty much exactly like Panzer General, except made for modern machines. Now you can relive those memories while you wait for this Kickstarter to finish! http://www.slitherine.com/games/panzer_corps_pc
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Mordaedil posted:There was a video on the last page where Pat interviewed Tycho, Colin and Veronica, and it seemed to imply he's mostly going to be called in for writing a side-quest at best, not a main writer, possibly enhance the dialog of some NPC's.
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Saoshyant posted:Humans Must Answer, a shmup led by two developers from STALKER. It has a small goal (£5000) and a demo that you should check out. £5 gets you the full game. This seems really neat! The graphics look like some UK Amiga artist travelled 15 years into the future - "All the colors! All at the same time! Red and green and blue and yellow, NOW!"
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# ? Mar 22, 2013 10:40 |
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If people are withdrawing funding because they don't like the works of one minor author for a few sidequests or a character, their faith in the project and its leads and development team must have been pretty bad to begin with.
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# ? Mar 22, 2013 10:53 |
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Hey idiots like me who were discouraged by Rothfuss, put all of your money back in because the $3.5 million stretch goal is motherfucking Chris Avellone! With Chris designing and writing a whole new Companion as well! I am now completely over the previous update. Also, I think this was addressed specifically to us idiots: quote:A few of you have asked whether we're bringing too many writers on the project. Will it be difficult to manage? How will they all agree? Rest assured that more writers only helps us. Colin is in charge of the overall story, and will define the constraints required for each area to connect with the larger story. Each writer will then have one or more specific areas (and/or companions in some cases) to flesh out. There will be considerable creative freedom, especially for areas that are less central to the core storyline, but the result will be a cohesive whole.
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Urdnot Fire posted:Hey idiots like me who were discouraged by Rothfuss, put all of your money back in because the $3.5 million stretch goal is motherfucking Chris Avellone! With Chris designing and writing a whole new Companion as well! I am now completely over the previous update. hahahaahhahahahha
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# ? Mar 22, 2013 10:57 |
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WL2, P:E, Torment, misc. Obsidian work... Yep, Avellone is gonna die for real this time.
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AG3 posted:WL2, P:E, Torment, misc. Obsidian work... Yep, Avellone is gonna die for real this time.
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GhostBoy posted:Based on the past tense used in the update, it sounds like his WL2 involvement has come to an end. So the main issue would be P:E vs Torment, and that was apparently a solvable problem. Don't forget shooting the pitch video for his next Kickstarter! But eh, this stretch goal sounds like his involvement won't be too deep anyway - more like an additional writer for one companion, one sidequest, and for the rest just walking between desks, glancing at scripts and sipping coffee.
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airdisc posted:Battle Worlds: Kronos I don't think it has been mentioned yet: These guys made The Book of Unwritten Tales, which I remember being quite a well received adventure game.
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AG3 posted:WL2, P:E, Torment, misc. Obsidian work... Yep, Avellone is gonna die for real this time. He finished his work on WL2 a while back actually (the area that was presented in the gameplay video was written by him). This is really going to remove any doubts from people that seemed unhappy with any previous updates.
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Urdnot Fire posted:Hey idiots like me who were discouraged by Rothfuss, put all of your money back in because the $3.5 million stretch goal is motherfucking Chris Avellone! With Chris designing and writing a whole new Companion as well! I am now completely over the previous update. Goddamit, and here I am all cashed out I just wish I could drop the kind of mad money I did on P:E here, but some things just aren't meant to be, I guess. But yeah, everyone else, bomb these guys with money, because as far as you all should be concerned, $3.5 million's the real 'fully funded' level.
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CommissarMega posted:Goddamit, and here I am all cashed out I just wish I could drop the kind of mad money I did on P:E here, but some things just aren't meant to be, I guess. But yeah, everyone else, bomb these guys with money, because as far as you all should be concerned, $3.5 million's the real 'fully funded' level. I'm pretty much at my limit after P:E too, which is a shame since getting Avellone on board makes me want to up my pledge (this is a dangerous psychological compulsion I wish they'd stop exploiting!). Upping it by $250 just for the item design reward (which I have no interest in) is a bit too much at this point.
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# ? Mar 22, 2013 12:39 |
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I hadn't pitched in to Torment yet, but hell, I just went to the page and the $20 tier was '1 LEFT' so I figured hey, what the heck why not.
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# ? Mar 22, 2013 13:22 |
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Avellone might as well retire and charge for Kickstarter appearances.
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MikeJF posted:I hadn't pitched in to Torment yet, but hell, I just went to the page and the $20 tier was '1 LEFT' so I figured hey, what the heck why not. If you haven't already signed up for Wasteland 2, I'd grab the $45 Torment+Wasteland combo instead. That's what I did because gently caress yeah Wasteland 2.
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# ? Mar 22, 2013 13:41 |
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With 2 days left it looks like M3CH won't make it, despite its fairly low goal of 5 thousand British funbux. Meanwhile, Door Kickers, which is Romanian and thus which cannot technically use Kickstarter, is doing the crowdfunding thing all by themselves.
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miguelito posted:But eh, this stretch goal sounds like his involvement won't be too deep anyway - more like an additional writer for one companion, one sidequest, and for the rest just walking between desks, glancing at scripts and sipping coffee. Mozi posted:Avellone might as well retire and charge for Kickstarter appearances. Basic Chunnel fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Mar 22, 2013 |
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Basic Chunnel posted:Really it seems like Kickstarter's been a miracle for George Ziets and Mark Morgan more than anyone else. Don't think they had much else going on. That fact is criminal in itself. Someone should hire them permanently!
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