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Manta posted:I just got my A+, now I want to work towards getting CCNA. I can take some preparation classes, but it is kind of confusing. Maybe a dumb question, but what (if any) classes should I sign up for? How familiar are you with networking, believe me there is a lot to it, if you are new to networking, when going for the CCNA.
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blakout posted:Just passed A+802 by the scruff of the neck it's no joke make sure you have command line rock solid. And 801 make sure you know mobo components and wireless standards Anything specific in the command line stuff give you problems? I know my way around it pretty well but don't want any surprises.
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Kaethela posted:Anything specific in the command line stuff give you problems? I know my way around it pretty well but don't want any surprises. Given one computer had its ip address changed use the command line to resolve it on the other computer. Also rebuilding a boot sector from command.
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Mar 22, 2013 22:19
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So I passed the Network+ today. I also have the A+. Are Windows 7 certs worth getting?
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Mar 22, 2013 23:55
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forever gold posted:So I passed the Network+ today. I also have the A+. The 70-680 is the only valuable if you are doing the MCITP-SA/EA line. All the desktop support line certs are almost worthless as far as HR and hiring managers go. The knowledge they teach in the coursework however is pretty useful depending on your experience, just don't spend money on the actual tests unless you just have the itch to. Just buying the books and learning the technology that would would be a leg up in my opinion. You have quite a few things you can move to that would be worth your time. The next step is just to specialize a little.
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Mar 23, 2013 00:53
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Corvettefisher posted:How familiar are you with networking, believe me there is a lot to it, if you are new to networking, when going for the CCNA. Familiar with the basics like IP address breakdown/sub nets and TCP/IP stack. That's why I want a training coarse if there is one.
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Mar 23, 2013 02:53
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I'm hoping someone can tell me if I'm on the right track. I've sort of migrated from a grants and contracting position to doing more systems stuff. I manage our web-based grants management system, do reports with Report Builder, and I tell our SQL contractor what views, scripts, etc. we need. A lot of what I've done is on the functionality end, not working much with SQL Management Studio other than to identify what tables and columns likely have the data we need. I'm sort of on track to become out SharePoint guy since we upgraded to 2010. I love SharePoint and want to work more with it. Depending on test results I should now have LearningTree's SharePoint 2010 Administration certification, but it sounds like it has little value on a resume. Also, taking the Administrating SharePoint Server class made it clear that I know little to nothing about Windows Server and Powershell. I've also taken a SQL Server 2008 Reporting class which made it clear that I am not super into writing stuff in SQL. It seems like the certs I should focus on are: A+ - I'm pretty close to the knowledge from a couple practice tests so I'm reading the Mike Meyers book. Seems like a good first step to get my foot in the door. MCITP: SharePoint Administrator 2010 - Even though it's expiring it would give me a standard certification, if my work pays for it. After that, N+ and Windows Server training (to build towards certification) seem like the next logical steps. I'm trying to figure out where I'm going in the next few years and I think I would want to focus on SharePoint administration, maybe building towards department management. Does this sound like I'm on the right track? My employer uses SharePoint 2010 and Server 2008 R2, so it's easy to justify that they should pay for that training/certs. Should I instead be focusing on SP and Server 2013 because that's the newest stuff?
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Mar 23, 2013 19:28
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Manta posted:I just got my A+, now I want to work towards getting CCNA. I can take some preparation classes, but it is kind of confusing. Maybe a dumb question, but what (if any) classes should I sign up for? If/when I ever start on the CCNA, I plan to take an actual classroom class at a local community college. Let them provide the equipment, and provide someone to bounce questions/ideas off of seems like a more likely passing score for a dummy like me. If you do well at online training and reading then go that route. Just my two cents.
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Mar 23, 2013 19:44
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That has to be the worst promotional video I've ever seen...
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Mar 24, 2013 03:23
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Tab8715 posted:That has to be the worst promotional video I've ever seen... Sometimes career paths aren't paths at all! (They're dead-ends.)
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Mar 24, 2013 03:32
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routenull0 posted:The NP:SP looks to have some odd requirements, like NA:SP or any one of the older CCIP exams passed, but not an actual NP before you can take it. I was going to start on taking the NP exams this month to finish them by end of April, but I enjoy the SP world way more, so I might go that route, but first knock out NA:SP I guess. The biggest problem getting into CCNP:SP is having access to IOS XR. I would not pursue this cert unless you can get access to it or maybe until there is emulation for it.
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Mar 25, 2013 23:14
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Is a CCNA without experience worthless?
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Mar 26, 2013 00:05
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forever gold posted:Is a CCNA without experience worthless? No, so long as you're not a dumbass and have social skills. Just don't expect to fall into anything other than a senior desktop/Jr. Netadmin position.
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Mar 26, 2013 00:07
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psydude posted:so long as you're not a dumbass Explain.
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Mar 26, 2013 00:08
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forever gold posted:Is a CCNA without experience worthless? Only if you CertKing'd it(course any cert is at that point). If you actually set up the labs(even packet tracer is head and sholders above most), and read the material it is full of worth.
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Mar 26, 2013 00:09
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Corvettefisher posted:Only if you CertKing'd it(course any cert is at that point). If you actually set up the labs(even packet tracer is head and sholders above most), and read the material it is full of worth. I see people on other tech forums and youtube going crazy with the labbing, having a full rack of switches/routers and whatnot. Curious how much of that is necessary. Makes the whole thing seem a bit daunting.
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Mar 26, 2013 00:12
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forever gold posted:I see people on other tech forums and youtube going crazy with the labbing, having a full rack of switches/routers and whatnot. Curious how much of that is necessary. Makes the whole thing seem a bit daunting. The farther you go obviously the better, and using real material is great. You can usually pull some cheap 296(5)0's, 1811's, and 28xx off ebay for cheap and play around. For some hands on stuff without buying all the equipment, check your local community college. Besides people networking is really important too, and most of the time people in CC's for things like CCNA study have jobs, sometimes if you are really good you can get them for an interview.
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Mar 26, 2013 00:18
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forever gold posted:I see people on other tech forums and youtube going crazy with the labbing, having a full rack of switches/routers and whatnot. Curious how much of that is necessary. Makes the whole thing seem a bit daunting. The more you know, and the deeper your understanding of what the test actually asks you, the more you really get from the stuff. The difference between reading something and puking an answer out, vs. dragging a physical switch config kicking and screaming into sullen compliance is really really huge. I'm halfway through the Server 2012 MCSE, and sitting down with the study books and just following along with the lab stuff is hands down the reason I end up passing 1st try most of the time. "This is familiar and I could set this up again in my sleep" is an unbelievably helpful thing when you get into Certificate Authority and AD Federation bullshit.
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Mar 26, 2013 01:02
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forever gold posted:I see people on other tech forums and youtube going crazy with the labbing, having a full rack of switches/routers and whatnot. Curious how much of that is necessary. Makes the whole thing seem a bit daunting. None of it is a necessity. The people you see doing this are passionate and are striving to better themselves the best way they can. These types will not only smash the ccna, but will probably have a superior practical knowledge of the systems they seek to administer in the workplace. Labbing at home isn't crazy. I would say that unless nepotism or luck is on your side, labbing is the best chance you set yourself on the path of mastering the technology when you don't have the access at work.
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I really want to get the 70-640, but I have 0 experience as a Sys Admin. Since Server 2008 R2 is kind of prohibitively expensive to buy just to play around with in VMs, is there some better option? The 70-680/685 (MCSA Win7) is very attainable for me, with the imaging/deployment subjects the only thing I am not familiar with. Really I just want to move toward a job for Tier 2 Deskside Support with some ID admin duties so I can start getting more experienced with Windows Server..but I don't know if an MCSA for Windows 7 support would do much to help me toward that goal.
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Meta Ridley posted:I really want to get the 70-640, but I have 0 experience as a Sys Admin. Since Server 2008 R2 is kind of prohibitively expensive to buy just to play around with in VMs, is there some better option? Are you currently a college student?
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madmaan posted:Are you currently a college student? Nope, no college degree either. But I've been working at a service desk for about 15 months and want to get out of there as soon as I hit 2 years, to move up to a tier2 job and hopefully never work Hell Desk again. I know college students can sometimes get very cheap licenses from MS but I don't qualify for that unless there is some other alternative (and not filez).
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Mar 26, 2013 02:41
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Go here and download the iso: http://www.mydigitallife.info/windows-server-2008-r2-sp1-official-iso-images-180-days-free-trial-download/ Then when the trial is up dump the VM and start over.
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Ganon posted:Go here and download the iso: http://www.mydigitallife.info/windows-server-2008-r2-sp1-official-iso-images-180-days-free-trial-download/ This is what I used on my home lab stuff before I got hired on at a place that had enough open value keys for me to license my home lab for work related fuckery.
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Ganon posted:Go here and download the iso: http://www.mydigitallife.info/windows-server-2008-r2-sp1-official-iso-images-180-days-free-trial-download/ Awesome, thanks. Is a 6-month timeframe a bit too optimistic to learn and take the 70-640, coming from someone who has no direct Directory/Wintel server admin experience? Basically I plan on knocking out the A+ in a week or two (gotta read up on my FDD cable pin counts, ISA bus bandwidth and Various Cable Lengths), then go for the MCSA Desktop Support in about 3 months..then work toward that 70-640 and hopefully get it before the end of the year. Alpha Mayo fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Mar 26, 2013 |
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Meta Ridley posted:Awesome, thanks. You can generally do a chapter a weeknight if you're just reading the material, another day to do the labs. Do 2 chapters complete on a weekend. The 70-640 blue book I got from MS had like 20ish? chapters in it, so you're looking at about 2 months to be completely "I understand and can apply these things outside the framework of the multiple guess test". Do the labs, even if you have a crappy PC with like 8 gigs of ram. They're very much worth it, so you at least see and know what the thing is asking you about.
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Corvettefisher posted:Only if you CertKing'd it(course any cert is at that point). If you actually set up the labs(even packet tracer is head and sholders above most), and read the material it is full of worth. This has to be a joke... Right?
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Tab8715 posted:This has to be a joke... Right? If it wasn't for the people we have interviewed(our process includes a lab) with a CCNA who; Didn't know how to log into or access the cisco device Didn't know the syntax structure Didn't know the operation levels in IOS etc etc Packet tracer is FAR from perfect but it does give you at least an idea of what to do when you are in a device. But they could Subnet for me all day, tell me how many usable IP addresses there are, and recite me OSI model!
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Just buy an old 2600 off eBay, pull the IOS image off, and run it in GNS3. For switching, buy one or two 2950s and set them up with your machine (GNS3 will let you use your NIC to connect to a physical network and add it into the simulation).
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ToG posted:So there's a new harder CCNA coming this june apparently. So, I got this from Cisco in my email today. Looks like they're changing the vanilla CCNA to CCNA Routing and Switching. This also affects the other CCNA specializations, like CCNA Voice, CCNA Wireless, CCNA Security, etc. Now you'll be able to take just the ICND1, and then the specialization exam to complete the requirements for each, instead of both the ICND1 and ICND2 or full CCNA exam in addition to the specialization exam. Looks like the pre-reqs have been updated on the Certifications pages too: http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/certifications/index.html
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Last day to test for the current (old?) CCNA, ICND1, and ICND2 4.0 is September 30, 2013 so lots of time left if you're studying.
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Mar 27, 2013 02:30
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I know that's a long while away but I am still worried 
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Mar 27, 2013 02:54
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Tab8715 posted:This has to be a joke... Right? I've had a few run ins with people on other networking forums who hold CCNA/CCNA:S and are asking basic questions because they landed a job and now can't do the work. As soon as they're exposed no-one helps then anymore though so they move on.
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n0tqu1tesane posted:So, I got this from Cisco in my email today. quote:While more than 99 percent of things in the physical world today are still not connected to the Internet, the phenomenon called "the Internet of Everything" will soon wake up everything imaginable. haha who the hell gets paid to write this poo poo? 
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 Info on CCNA 5.0 ICND1 todd@lammle.com posted:I took the exam the day it was released. The exam was released a day or two ago. The E-books are available from some sources but the print books aren't. ToG fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Mar 28, 2013 |
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Mar 28, 2013 15:46
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Passed the ICND1 this morning. Now I just need to pass the ICND2 before September 30.
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He should write some CCNP books while he's at it. So I'm trying to do one ROUTE lab per night. Some of the later ones get pretty damned in depth; I'm guessing they got a bit beyond the exam, which is good.
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I was given a nudging by my manager to start pursuing a higher level security cert. I've been in a sort of hybrid Sr. Windows SysAdmin/IT Security role for a few years now and with a new CIO re-org coming, it definitely can't hurt. My future goal is to move into a senior ITSec role when/if one becomes available. I assume he's nudging me towards CISSP but I think CCNA Sec, CEH or SSCP would also be valid paths. Which would you pick as far as effort and knowledge value go? I read the "Why You Should Not Get A CISSP" pdf a few pages back and I agree with a lot of the points, but if it ensures my positional standing at a job I quite enjoy, I still do it.
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Not sure if this has been covered in this thread yet. Are the 70-640, 642 and 646 really being retired? According to this post they are still going to be active, just if you complete them, you will be an MCSA: Server 2008 instead of the MCITP variant. Potato potaaaaato. quote:I've now viewed several threads here where people are saying that the MCITP: Server Administrator exams (70-640, 70-642, 70-646) are being retired on July 31, 2013. This is a misunderstanding. http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/CertGeneral/thread/59cdd9a8-8d45-4079-9aa2-954c4b5d0194 If this is true, I may hack out the three 2008 R2 tests then upgrade the cert to 2012.
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Ozu posted:I was given a nudging by my manager to start pursuing a higher level security cert. I've been in a sort of hybrid Sr. Windows SysAdmin/IT Security role for a few years now and with a new CIO re-org coming, it definitely can't hurt. My future goal is to move into a senior ITSec role when/if one becomes available. If anything I'd do CEH last. Not sure what sort of "industry" you're in, but I know that where I am almost every one of these positions REQUIRES a CISSP/CISM/CISA type cert, and then stuff like CEH or Security+ are nice to have (but really nobody cares if you have the main one).
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