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FatCow
Apr 22, 2002
I MAP THE FUCK OUT OF PEOPLE
Don't be pedantic. The Corvette is unibody.

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Itzena
Aug 2, 2006

Nothing will improve the way things currently are.
Slime TrainerS

cursedshitbox posted:



Roomies FZR. He flushed the cooling system and now we get to put a new HG on it. weeeeee
What did he flush it with - custard?

Dizman
Jun 10, 2004
I'm very dizzy.

You Am I posted:

That car doesn't look all that hosed. Sure it looks awful because it has lost the fender and door skin, but that's purely cosmetic

If you look at the targa top you can see how it's uneven from the front windshield to the rear windshield - the frame is bent. He just bought a roller and we're going to be digging into the wrecked one to find out what we can save. So far the engine looks fine, the blower head unit looks fine (thought the intercooler and radiator are bad) and at first glance the drive train looks ok as well. We've still got to get the stuff out and strip it down to make sure. You can see what I'm talking about with the t-top a little better in this picture:



some texas redneck posted:

:stonk:

That.. really doesn't look bad at all for 130. Or 100. Or hell, 70. I'm sure it's good and hosed, but the fact that he walked out of that with nothing more than whiplash is just amazing.


Yeah he got super lucky. The rear right tire blew, which sent him into the wall, but angle that he hit it at saved him from more severe injuries.

14 INCH DETECTIVE posted:

Does the time count if he never entered the other lane?

Sure does!!!

DJ Commie
Feb 29, 2004

Stupid drivers always breaking car, Gronk fix car...

FatCow posted:

Don't be pedantic. The Corvette is unibody.

That implies the Corvette's body is stressed, which it isn't. It bears some load, but the general idea is still body on frame.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

DJ Commie posted:

That implies the Corvette's body is stressed, which it isn't. It bears some load, but the general idea is still body on frame.

That one sure looks stressed to me. :haw:

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



This is a friendly reminder to always make sure you tighten your lugs all the way



No, I don't know how it didn't come off all the way either. Yes, I'm a fuckin dumbass :saddowns:

e: got the lugs back on and tightened them all the way, drove half a mile and they were all super loose again, so I guess there's something else at work here :iiam:

DEEP STATE PLOT fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Apr 6, 2013

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Wait...what? How did loose lug nuts do that?

It looks like a caliper bracket bolt came off and the caliper rotated out and gouged the inside of the wheel.

Slow is Fast
Dec 25, 2006

I've done that. Didn't torque the lugs on my RS and drove a few feet and things start feeling funny when I'm pulling out of the driveway. Scored the gently caress out of the inside of the rim with the brake rotor. Just zip wheeled the rim and bolted it back on and didn't tell a soul about my stupidity.

Until now.

Oops.

This is why I have a service crew now.

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe
My uncle got tired of the often changed flats on the old farm truck in the 60s and experimented with speeding up the tire changing process by only finger tightening the lug nuts.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

Cannot Find Server posted:

e: got the lugs back on and tightened them all the way, drove half a mile and they were all super loose again, so I guess there's something else at work here :iiam:

Probably wallowed the lug seats out and they're working loose as you drive now. Keep a very close eye on it, if they're too far gone you may need a new wheel.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Motronic posted:

Wait...what? How did loose lug nuts do that?

It looks like a caliper bracket bolt came off and the caliper rotated out and gouged the inside of the wheel.

The lugs came off the car and the tire came partially off, with the drum landing on the outside of the wheel and cutting that groove into it. It was exactly as terrifying as it sounds.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh
So 2 years ago I put a set of bilsteins on. They didn't come with washers and the stock shocks don't use a washer. I thought nothing of it. I went to replace a pad wear sensor today and found this:



I have no idea how long they've been this way, but the rubber has almost completed engulfed the bolt head.

Rujo King
Jun 28, 2007

I say old chap have you any of the good sort of catnip if you know what I mean... harrumphaarmaammhhhmm

Itzena posted:

What did he flush it with - custard?

Dude I'm pretty sure that's a sauce you get with Thai food. It's piquant, with just a slight hint of ethylene glycol for sweetness.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!

Cannot Find Server posted:

e: got the lugs back on and tightened them all the way, drove half a mile and they were all super loose again, so I guess there's something else at work here :iiam:

When you say 'all the way', you mean to spec and not just güdentite, right? :ohdear:

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Crustashio posted:

So 2 years ago I put a set of bilsteins on. They didn't come with washers and the stock shocks don't use a washer. I thought nothing of it. I went to replace a pad wear sensor today and found this:



I have no idea how long they've been this way, but the rubber has almost completed engulfed the bolt head.

I'll be double checking mine before I drive it next. :stare:

I *think* there was a washer but this was 2 years/10k miles ago.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

So I've been rebuilding my motorcycle engine over the last month or so, because this happened to it halfway across the San Mateo bridge;



Fun. Any ideas what would cause something like this? There's no valve damage, and you can see that the hole isn't where the valve impact points would be anyway. I didn't hear any knocking prior to the sudden loss of power, so I don't think it was running lean or with improper timing, and I didn't find any rocks or screws or anything in the crankcase. No damage to the spark plug either. I'm baffled.

VVVV Wouldn't that sound like, you know, knocking?

Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Apr 8, 2013

FatCow
Apr 22, 2002
I MAP THE FUCK OUT OF PEOPLE
Lots and lots of detonation.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Sagebrush posted:

So I've been rebuilding my motorcycle engine over the last month or so, because this happened to it halfway across the San Mateo bridge;



Fun. Any ideas what would cause something like this? There's no valve damage, and you can see that the hole isn't where the valve impact points would be anyway. I didn't hear any knocking prior to the sudden loss of power, so I don't think it was running lean or with improper timing, and I didn't find any rocks or screws or anything in the crankcase. No damage to the spark plug either. I'm baffled.

VVVV Wouldn't that sound like, you know, knocking?

Reiterate the above, has to be detonation. Detonation doesn't always come out really loud or like a knock

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

And that kind of damage is something that occurred over a long period of time. It didn't just suddenly decide "welp I'm sick of having compression" out of nowhere.

Once it's back together, figure out why that cylinder was running so hot.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

What sort of "long period" are we talking about here? A hundred miles? A thousand? More? I've only put a couple of thousand miles on the bike since I bought it from the PO, who definitely treated it...roughly. Is it possible that the piston could have been partially damaged before the bike was mine, run well enough for a while, then eventually given up when I started pushing the bike hard?

In any case, I'm going to be extremely careful about setting the timing when I get the engine remounted in the bike.

e: the bike shop manual recommends regular 87 octane gas, which is what I've been using, but would switching to 91 for the increased detonation resistance have any negative effects? It's not like it's that expensive to fill up the tank.

Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Apr 8, 2013

Sadi
Jan 18, 2005
SC - Where there are more rednecks than people
Well its typically a fatigue thing. So you just build up stress cycles every time you have a detonation. They add up over time till you get a nice little crack starting to from. Its all over pretty quickly after that.

Lord Gaga
May 9, 2010

Sadi posted:

Well its typically a fatigue thing. So you just build up stress cycles every time you have a detonation. They add up over time till you get a nice little crack starting to from. Its all over pretty quickly after that.

If any of you wanna get all mathy, sciencey about basics of fatigue, look into Miner's rule and S-N curves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatigue_%28material%29
http://www.weibull.com/hotwire/issue116/hottopics116.htm

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

On a car engine, that kind of damage occurs over thousands of miles. Possibly tens of thousands, depending just how bad the detonation is.

No idea on a bike. But it's absolutely possible that it the damage started before you got it.

If the engine is stock, and timing is stock, there's no reason to run a higher octane fuel. That said, it won't hurt anything except your wallet.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
To me that looks like a classic lean mixture on that side. Detonation is mostly visible around the outer edges of the piston and head (squish band). A lean mix would run hit and eventually melt a hole in the piston just like that.

Lord Gaga
May 9, 2010
Horrible engineering failure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3QD59QfMdQ

The casting of the cylinder head is the bearing surface on Lamborghini Miura engines...and there isnt an oil passageway :psyduck:

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Lord Gaga posted:

Horrible engineering failure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3QD59QfMdQ

The casting of the cylinder head is the bearing surface on Lamborghini Miura engines...and there isnt an oil passageway :psyduck:
That must be fun to deal with if it wears. I guess you could build it up with a repair coating, though.

Lord Gaga
May 9, 2010

InitialDave posted:

That must be fun to deal with if it wears. I guess you could build it up with a repair coating, though.

Same channel has some connecting rods that have the big or small end bronzed because oops the bores out of spec lol.

If it were me, and I think the way he does it is the same, is I'd line bore the head well oversize and install bronze bushings (and possibly forced oiling if the guy doesn't mind spending the $$)

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Lord Gaga posted:

Horrible engineering failure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3QD59QfMdQ

The casting of the cylinder head is the bearing surface on Lamborghini Miura engines...and there isnt an oil passageway :psyduck:

It was the 60's, what do you expect? A lot of pushrod engines lube the cam by oil gravity feeding through the valley and sort of just dripping randomly on the cam. Noone gave a poo poo back then because an engine wasn't expected to last 100k without serious work being done.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

The camshaft journals on my bike engine are just smooth round machined areas on either side of the head, but at least they're integrated into small castings that only cost about :20bux: to replace should they explode, and they're definitely oiled.

Seconding that boring the journals out and installing bronze bushings (or Nikasil plating or something) would be an awesome idea. But then again, this is the car where the oil pump shuts off if you go into a hard left turn, soooo


Slavvy posted:

It was the 60's, what do you expect? A lot of pushrod engines lube the cam by oil gravity feeding through the valley and sort of just dripping randomly on the cam.

I always liked the "let's just make a thing that dips into the sump and throws oil all over everything, it'll get there eventually" method of lubrication. No idea how engines with splash lubrication run at all.

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Check out my 'Vette, bro


Lord Gaga posted:

Horrible engineering failure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3QD59QfMdQ

The casting of the cylinder head is the bearing surface on Lamborghini Miura engines...and there isnt an oil passageway :psyduck:

'Modofocation'

:bang:

(I bet it's hooked to a manuel transmission) :ese:

Goober Peas fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Apr 9, 2013

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Goober Peas posted:

'Modofocation'

:bang:

(I bet it's hooked to a manuel transmission) :ese:

Isn't the lubrication provided by the cam?

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE


does this fit in here?

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

Ba

By

Sharkytm doot doo do doot do doo


Fallen Rib

Nitr0 posted:



does this fit in here?

Nah, you are looking for the "Post Pictures of Horrible Cerebral Failures" thread.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
Straps are $10 for four at the Home Depot.

Octopus Magic
Dec 19, 2003

I HATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU LIKE* AND I NEED TO BE SURE YOU ALL KNOW THAT EVERY TIME I POST

*unless it's a DSM in which case we cool ^_^

Geirskogul posted:

Straps are $10 for four at the Home Depot.

and 10 dollars buys a 12 pack of bud light. :colbert:

DILLIGAF
Nov 16, 2003

I don't know, I find it hard to take hipster/non-hipster advice from someone with a Brony avatar!

Octopus Magic posted:

and 10 dollars buys a 12 pack of bud light. :colbert:

And the straps would still taste better.

General_Failure
Apr 17, 2005
In the last week I've spent about $60 on 4 straps :( And when I read $10 for beer I though that was a drat good price for a 6 pack even if it is just cat piss. gently caress I'm sick of prices here.

Today I'm going to be further courting a mechanical failure. Feeding the car another one of those bizarre cooling system stop leak products with clear stuff, translucent red stuff and what looks like fine copper filings. I just need a few thousand more km out of it :( In the next few weeks I may have to start operation "order engine parts from the U.S. via a friendly go-between to avoid shipping rape". Every goddamn part of the cooling system is leaking.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

General_Failure posted:

In the last week I've spent about $60 on 4 straps :( And when I read $10 for beer I though that was a drat good price for a 6 pack even if it is just cat piss. gently caress I'm sick of prices here.

Today I'm going to be further courting a mechanical failure. Feeding the car another one of those bizarre cooling system stop leak products with clear stuff, translucent red stuff and what looks like fine copper filings. I just need a few thousand more km out of it :( In the next few weeks I may have to start operation "order engine parts from the U.S. via a friendly go-between to avoid shipping rape". Every goddamn part of the cooling system is leaking.

When I was finishing putting the Audi 2.3l back together after timing it, I forgot to put a 10mm bolt back in, resulted in a good steady drip of fresh engine oil from the oil pump. Well I tear it apart and put it back in....

....then forgot to put another in :doh: coolant leak ensued. Fixed that one, AND FORGOT ANOTHER. Another oil leak. Finally got it all back together...

...and the water pump seal blows. More coolant leak.

revmoo
May 25, 2006

#basta
Kegerator dude :smug:

I pay $1.41 per 20oz pint of craft beer.

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General_Failure
Apr 17, 2005

CommieGIR posted:

When I was finishing putting the Audi 2.3l back together after timing it, I forgot to put a 10mm bolt back in, resulted in a good steady drip of fresh engine oil from the oil pump. Well I tear it apart and put it back in....

....then forgot to put another in :doh: coolant leak ensued. Fixed that one, AND FORGOT ANOTHER. Another oil leak. Finally got it all back together...

...and the water pump seal blows. More coolant leak.

Ouch!

I suspect all, or at least most of the coolant hoses are originals. No matter what I do they leak at the ends. There's a welch plug that's leaking pretty badly around the edge too but I can't get to the drat thing because it's behind an engine mount and the subframe. Can't get at it from the top because the engine is a tight fit around the suspension towers and even then I have to invest time into dismantling the LPG gear because it lives on that side of the engine bay. I really hate touching that poo poo. Especially because the negative pressure vapour line to the mixer is rock hard and brittle from heat and age, and hosed if I can find that stuff anywhere.
Last week I priced a thermostat and the finger length heater bypass hoses on the water pump. The hoses I'm looking at $50 or so... No I'm sure it was more than that. I kind of stopped paying attention at that point. The thermostat is $50 and the gasket $5. I think I'll just get the gasket. The thermostat still works fine. It's just the gasket leaks. I don't even want to think of how much the rad hoses cost. Then there's the hardline that runs snug up against an injector rail, which has of course rubbed through the heater line so sometimes coolant runs all over one of the rocker covers and down on to the spark plugs and exhaust.
The whole cooling system minus the radiator has aged badly and needs replacing. I replaced the rad because it blew a couple of years back. Like a day or two after I flushed the system and fed it Tectaloy red. :cry:

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