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Nilbop posted:I'm still not sold with the idea of Reiner and Bertholdt being sent in with the most important jobs in the Titan nation at the tender age of, what, 12? It's just nudging the manga away from the survival-mystery-horror niche and more into the mainstream. Which I'm not saying it wouldn't have had to do to keep going, but it just doesn't gel for me right now. It's possible that they weren't actually responsible for Wall Maria being breached, and are just the second individuals to become those sorts of titans. They might have claimed that to get Eren more interested in hearing what they had to say.
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I bet it's easier to sneak a kid in than an adult. Especially if their goal is to infiltrate the military, using someone the age of all the other fresh recruits makes a lot of sense.
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TTBF posted:It's possible that they weren't actually responsible for Wall Maria being breached, and are just the second individuals to become those sorts of titans. They might have claimed that to get Eren more interested in hearing what they had to say. This would be a really dumb fakeout.
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# ? Apr 14, 2013 20:24 |
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Nilbop posted:I'm still not sold with the idea of Reiner and Bertholdt being sent in with the most important jobs in the Titan nation at the tender age of, what, 12? It's just nudging the manga away from the survival-mystery-horror niche and more into the mainstream. Which I'm not saying it wouldn't have had to do to keep going, but it just doesn't gel for me right now. I got the impression that they did it because they were stupid kids, not because they were under orders to do it. Was there somewhere they said they got orders to bust up the human walls that I forgot about? Reiner makes it sound like they learned about the humans behind the walls and attacked in hopes of wiping them out, and that now that he's been with them for the last 3 years he's come to realize they aren't what he expected and he has grown conflicted about what to do. The only thing he says that makes it sound like he was given a task was saying he's going to do his duty, but that could be a duty he gave himself like "protect the abnormal titans from humanity by wiping them out". Mo_Steel fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Apr 14, 2013 |
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Given how the anime just showed Annie among the refugees--quite possibly with the attack being the time they snuck her in--I don't think the attack was just kids being kids.
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Mo_Steel posted:I got the impression that they did it because they were stupid kids, not because they were under orders to do it. Was there somewhere they said they got orders to bust up the human walls that I forgot about? Everything else they've done has been under orders, they haven't explicitly said their original attack on the wall was but we have no reason to doubt it at this point. And kids don't go attack the last bastion of human civilization and personally kill hundreds of people (and enable the genocide of thousands) because they're dicking around. If they did, a) that doesn't mesh at all with previous depictions of Reiner or Bertholdt and b) it says a lot of dumb stuff about the Titan-nation.
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# ? Apr 14, 2013 20:58 |
I just cant wait for the potato scene in the anime.
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# ? Apr 14, 2013 21:07 |
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I can't wait for the "Sasha farted" scene. Sasha is the best.
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RatHat posted:This would be a really dumb fakeout. It definitely would be. It's the only reason I could think of for them to lie about having broken Wall Maria, which is something I'm fairly sure they did do.
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mind the walrus posted:With that said I'm still wondering what the point of inserting Annie into the City Guard is if so far all we've seen her do is blow her cover via seemingly pointless operations in the forests outside of the city. Seems really risky for someone whose entire operation is ostensibly to be in the "inner circle" of humans as a Titan back-up. It wasn't until after they got their assignments that everyone found out Eren could turn into a Titan. At that point I'm sure the plans got revised, and Annie was the best choice since Reiner and Bernholdt were part of the Scouting Legion with Eren and it would be suspicious if they did it. Mo_Steel posted:I got the impression that they did it because they were stupid kids, not because they were under orders to do it. Was there somewhere they said they got orders to bust up the human walls that I forgot about? Reiner makes it sound like they learned about the humans behind the walls and attacked in hopes of wiping them out, and that now that he's been with them for the last 3 years he's come to realize they aren't what he expected and he has grown conflicted about what to do. The only thing he says that makes it sound like he was given a task was saying he's going to do his duty, but that could be a duty he gave himself like "protect the abnormal titans from humanity by wiping them out". I don't really buy that they learned that the people behind the walls weren't all that bad and became conflicted over their plan to destroy "humanity". After all they did attack the second wall just a few months or so ago and were only stopped when it turned out Eren could go Titan.
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I'm not sure why'd they both with spy games if the goal was just to wipe people out. They easily could have just kicked in the rest of the gates by now.
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Post from the anime thread:Popehoist posted:
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The Devil Tesla posted:Post from the anime thread: It took all my willpower not to reply to that comment.
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The Devil Tesla posted:Post from the anime thread: I just read this in the other thread. It was almost sadistic joyful. I hope to God no one spoils that thread.
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Dr_Amazing posted:I'm not sure why'd they both with spy games if the goal was just to wipe people out. They easily could have just kicked in the rest of the gates by now. No idea. They could have just gone ahead and kicked down all the walls 5 years ago if they wanted. It's not like there's anyone who could have stopped them. The Devil Tesla posted:Post from the anime thread: That's like the worst kind of rear end in a top hat I'm not spoiling things post.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 01:43 |
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The Devil Tesla posted:Post from the anime thread:
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 01:47 |
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Reiner looks like a much bigger rear end in a top hat in the anime. Goddamn.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 01:48 |
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To be fair they looked equally rear end in a top hat-ish in the same manga scene as well.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 01:51 |
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The Devil Tesla posted:Post from the anime thread:
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Autumncomet posted:We have to wait for season 2 to bring it up though. The anime is getting 25 eps, so I think they might actually get to where the manga is right now.
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The Devil Tesla posted:Post from the anime thread: I really hope that's a genuine opinion and not that Popehoist has read the manga and being an rear end in a top hat.
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The Devil Tesla posted:Post from the anime thread: Though it would be hilarious otherwise.
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Popehoist posted:To be fair they looked equally rear end in a top hat-ish in the same manga scene as well. Way to spoil my dreams.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 02:09 |
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As a result of the recent chapter, I am picturing an Eren titan cosplayer and a Ryner titan cosplayer getting into a legit wrestling match at some anime convention. It is glorious.
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Level Slide posted:As a result of the recent chapter, I am picturing an Eren titan cosplayer and a Ryner titan cosplayer getting into a legit wrestling match at some anime convention. It is glorious. Don't forget the 60 meter face-slam at the end!
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 02:57 |
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This is a little off topic, but I could really go for a nice steak about now.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 03:38 |
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People who have read the manga should probably just not post in the anime thread at all at this point. I know we're all totally stoked to re-visit the series after almost two years of reading it with this thread, but that poo poo is getting ridiculous.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 05:48 |
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Just report the ones that lack restraint
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 05:54 |
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Yeah, and with the JoJo thread setting a precedent for that, the mods have already kinda been explicit about how they respond to that kind of thing.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 05:54 |
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Popehoist posted:To be fair they looked equally rear end in a top hat-ish in the same manga scene as well. Please don't do this kind of poo poo.
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Jackard posted:Just report the ones that lack restraint Mods keep a vigilant watch for nonsense; a responsible poster does her duty.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 06:40 |
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104th Training Class, Ranks No. 5 to 2 Ranked No. 5 - Eren Jaegar - Revealed as Titan in Chapter 9 Ranked No. 4 - Annie Leonhardt - Revealed as Titan in Chapter 31 Ranked No. 3 - Bertholdt Fubar - Revealed as Titan in Chapter 42 Ranked No. 2 - Reiner Braun - Revealed as Titan in Chapter 42 Seems to me that there's a trend building up here. EDIT: I'm going back to check whether Mikasa wears an iron ring or guards her neck when she fights. JosephWongKS fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Apr 15, 2013 |
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JosephWongKS posted:104th Training Class, Ranks No. 5 to 2 Ranked No . 1 - Mikasa Ackerman - Revealed as The Best at Titan Killing in Chapter 1 Not surprising that she ranked above them huh?
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 07:00 |
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Man, Reiner has the weakest last name of all the human titans. Jaegar can mean a hunter, a type of soldier in some militaries, or a type of bird that harasses other birds to steal their prey; Leonhardt looks like Lionheart; Fubar is pretty descriptive of Titan transformation and what they do to people; and then Braun means brown.
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Gyges posted:Man, Reiner has the weakest last name of all the human titans. Jaegar can mean a hunter, a type of soldier in some militaries, or a type of bird that harasses other birds to steal their prey; Leonhardt looks like Lionheart; Fubar is pretty descriptive of Titan transformation and what they do to people; and then Braun means brown. "Brown" is what your pants look like when you see a Titan.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 07:15 |
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Who won in that fistfight between Annie and Mikasa? Was it ever revealed?
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 07:18 |
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Thoren posted:Who won in that fistfight between Annie and Mikasa? Was it ever revealed? Nope, because as always Eren is poo poo at remembering anything.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 07:20 |
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Braun is a homonym with "brawn," which fits quite well.
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Gyges posted:Man, Reiner has the weakest last name of all the human titans. Jaegar can mean a hunter, a type of soldier in some militaries, or a type of bird that harasses other birds to steal their prey; Leonhardt looks like Lionheart; Fubar is pretty descriptive of Titan transformation and what they do to people; and then Braun means brown. The scanlators just chose a really weird romanization. Bertholdt's last name is supposed to be Hoover, or Huber if they wanted to follow the Germanic naming convention the mangaka has going with Jaeger and Ackerman and so on. Wikipedia tells me Huber means something like wealthy land owner, so it's not like Reiner's alone in being mundane.
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ShardPhoenix posted:I'll post my speculations on the plot for the amusement of the manga readers, since I've enjoyed seeing the same from non-book-reading Game of Thrones viewers. I kind-of want to play a game with this. - Kind-of - Not yet - Not yet - Kind-of - So far as we know, yes - Basically correct, yes - As far as we know, yes - Kind-of, if you count human-titans, though what he's talking about isn't ruled out either. - Not yet, but pretty obvious - Also pretty drat obviously going to happen, but hasn't officially yet. This guy is good.
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