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Wooph
Oct 28, 2010

by angerbot
No class stat progression adjustments? Some of them kind of get the short end of the stick when it comes to offensive stats.

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Bakalakadaka
Sep 18, 2004

Oh nice maybe magick archers will be usable now before you get the gold idol.

klapman
Aug 27, 2012

this char is good

Leal posted:

Don't forget the removal of Flying into Free :smith:

Hey, i've got that covered! I'm just gonna have it playing through my computer speakers the entire time i'm playing the game. It might be overcompensating, but poo poo it's going to be awesome. Now that I think about it, I kinda wish Flying Into Free was the only song that played throughout the entire game, and it just had different layers added or removed depending on the situation. Walking around not really doing much outside of kicking a few stray wolves? Just the nice, relaxed orchestral background. Do half a health bar of damage to a Chimera, setting it on fire at the same time? FLYYYYYYYYYYING INTO FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Lakbay
Dec 14, 2006

My eye...MY EYE!!!
I just preordered Dark Arisen on PSN since it apparently comes with pre order bonuses of a free theme and a ring set. Does anyone know what the ring set is?

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


I played the original DD up to around the halfway point and quit because I thought it was too easy. Could I just pick up Dark Arisen and continue my save?

And why does the OP mention that the hard mode isn't very good? Is it just poorly balanced or what?

Boar It
Jul 29, 2011

Mesmerizing eyebrows is my specialty
So the changelog seems to talk about the new fast traveling stuff that was supposedly only a bonus for owners of the original or something? So they changed their minds or did I misread it? I have a save file now so it doesn't matter all that much but still.

Azaael
Jan 15, 2013

Coffee?

Hakkesshu posted:

I played the original DD up to around the halfway point and quit because I thought it was too easy. Could I just pick up Dark Arisen and continue my save?

And why does the OP mention that the hard mode isn't very good? Is it just poorly balanced or what?


All Hard mode literally does is make the enemies hit the Arisen harder. Okay, a LOT harder in some cases. I mean when my Assassin arisen was around 130-ish-mind you, I was mixing and matching gear for it's looks, so it was 'moderate to high' rather than best in slot-the drake near the Shadow Fort managed to hit him for about 70% of his health, and that was in the base game(however, he did spend much of his time as an Assassin, and so has pretty crap defense). Lowbies will be one and two shot. The problem is...this is ALL it does. I don't think it even hits your pawns harder. It doesn't give the enemies more HP(though they give more XP and gold), so it's just sorta...dull overall. (And once you're close to the 3 digit mark it's not that bad anymore anyway.) It's essentially a sorta lazy way to bump up the difficulty. While you see it come out in a fight here and there(the Archydra's charge can actually wipe a high-level Arisen out), it's not particularly balanced.

I'd have preferred to see the stuff hit lighter than it does in the Hard mode now, though harder than normal, yes, offer more gold and XP, maybe give the enemies a HP boost(but don't do the other lazy way and turn them into HP bags, that's just as lame), but give them actual better tactics/make them more aggressive/stuff like that. Probably would have worked out a lot better for it.

see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

Oh nice they added the new enemies to the original world. That's great. Hope they do the same with the spawns in the postgame, because aside from the road connecting Cassardis to Gran Soren most of the enemies were the exact same. Tons of regular rear end goblins still all over the place.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy

Torabi posted:

So the changelog seems to talk about the new fast traveling stuff that was supposedly only a bonus for owners of the original or something? So they changed their minds or did I misread it? I have a save file now so it doesn't matter all that much but still.
Not sure what you mean, maybe you misunderstood what the bonus was? The bonus was just unlimited ferrystones. The changelog just has them slashing the price from an outrageous 20k to 5k. You could always buy ferrystones in the normal Dragon's Dogma. Honestly the bonus wasn't even that good of a bonus but most of us probably didn't care since we have new game+ save files so we could buy additional portalstones to place wherever we want :V

The change they did was add more default port crystals to the world. In base Dragon's Dogma you only had one at Gran Soren (the central city basically), and a removable one that you got at the end of a mid-game quest. You can place this removable one anywhere in the world and warp to it.

Now they've added a default portcrystal to Cassardis, presumably so you can actually warp back to the mainland from the DLC, but also hopefully doubles for the main game because honestly the Gran Soren -> Cassardis walk is the one you do the most and the biggest time waster (about a ~5 minute run). Looks like they also added 4 more portcrystals to a number of other places that I presume you can just pick up and relocate anywhere you want.

So yeah, that should functionally cover all of your fast travel needs. Honestly the 4 removable ones they added could just be static and that would be enough. Just remember you'll have to buy ferrystones without an import, but at 5k that's a paltry sum. You are drowning in gold by the end of the game.

Wooph posted:

No class stat progression adjustments? Some of them kind of get the short end of the stick when it comes to offensive stats.
Was this ever really that big of a deal outside of Ur-Dragon? I know Mystic Archers are the one that get the shaft here but I never really "felt" it until Ur-Dragon and hitting the forums. I honestly ignored the stats in this game and just did whatever I wanted.

Rascyc fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Apr 19, 2013

Bakalakadaka
Sep 18, 2004

Rascyc posted:

Was this ever really that big of a deal outside of Ur-Dragon? I know Mystic Archers are the one that get the shaft here but I never really "felt" it until Ur-Dragon and hitting the forums. I honestly ignored the stats in this game and just did whatever I wanted.

Magick archer is basically the only class with weird stats (shitloads of magic def and not much magic attack) but it doesn't make a huge difference it's just a min/max thing.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Is there any word on compatibility between pawns in the original game and Dark Arisen? I have a friend who's playing my copy of the original game and I would love to give his pawn my goodies, but they'll be adjusted to Dark Arisen. Is that stuff just not going to be available to him/auto unequipped? Anyone have any idea on that?

AzMiLion
Dec 29, 2010

Truck you say?

Apparently my local gamestore is getting copies of DA in today. And is also selling them today so hopefully i'll get mine today, If i do I'll post some impressions later today/tonight.

Gyoru
Jul 13, 2004



Dark Arisen is confirmed to be 2 discs at least on 360.

(not mine)






The Install Disc is just for the HD Textures and Japanese Voices.

Here are the first DLCs being advertised in-game. Same old, same old. :(

quote:

23/04/2013 Assorted Rift Crystal Packs!
Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen DLC has arrived!

+ "Rift Crystals - Knights Pack"
+ "Rift Crystals - Queen Pack"
+ "Rift Crystals - King Pack"

Rift Crystals aplenty! Hire a high-level pawn with one of these weighty rift crystal packs! Purchase them as many times as you like


24/04/2013 New Customisation Selections!
Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen DLC has arrived!

+ "New Character Edit Options Pack"
Style up your pawn with these new selections!

*The free "new Character Edit Options Preview" lets you see the content of the "New Character Edit Options Pack" on pawns hired from other Arisen

Gyoru fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Apr 19, 2013

klapman
Aug 27, 2012

this char is good
So I forget, is Dark Arisen going to have any major performance increases? Because honestly that would be worth at least half the price alone to me.

AzMiLion
Dec 29, 2010

Truck you say?

Holy poo poo, my LGS is made of dumb.
Apparently they had a batch of DD coming in as well. not DA, those were coming in on the 18th.
Why would you do that.

Boar It
Jul 29, 2011

Mesmerizing eyebrows is my specialty

AzMiLion posted:

Holy poo poo, my LGS is made of dumb.
Apparently they had a batch of DD coming in as well. not DA, those were coming in on the 18th.
Why would you do that.

Haha what. Why would anyone buy DD if DA is coming? It is odd though, Gamestop/Game in Sweden sell the original game used for ~$61 while DA will cost ~$46. :v:

Is it sad that $46 is really, really, cheap for a console game here in Sweden? Especially a new one. (If you want to consider DA a brand new game)

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

I wish I had known Dark Arisen was going to be a seperate game instead of a DLC when I bought Dragon's Dogma. But holy poo poo was this game worth it anyhow. It got a little weird right at the end, but I had a hell of a good time with it and the Dragon fight was fun as hell.

Jeedy Jay
Nov 8, 2012
Oh, wow. They really are putting new monsters in the original content. I wonder if they'll have different stats depending on where they are. Otherwise, FOE's may be coming to Gransys.

Azaael
Jan 15, 2013

Coffee?
Something interesting happened tonight. I came across a pawn-160 something, awesome looking dude too(looked like some big elf Warrior guy.) Odd thing with him though was the fact he had a hairstyle I haven't seen before. Now I had bought the hair DLC, and I know there are some new hairstyles coming with the expansion, but I'm wondering if there was some DLC I missed? The hairstyle looked cool-it was long-REAL long actually, and tied back in a real loose tail with a little bit of hair down in the front. I had went to the barber right after I found(and favorited) the guy to see if I had missed it, but it was nowhere on the list. Hmm...Only thing I can think of is pre-release/review copy perhaps.

blat blat blat
Apr 20, 2013
Anyone know what the PSN pre order ring is?

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

I'm curious too, because I can't actually find anything that says there's a preorder ring, period. Or a preorder bonus of any kind. I checked the PSN and googled for it and talked to some stores asking what's up and no one knew anything.

blat blat blat
Apr 20, 2013
When you actually add it to your cart (or uh maybe it's post checkout, don't recall which) it pops up some thing saying you'll get a Dark Arisen Death theme + Ring DLC. Doesnt say a drat thing about it in the description which is pretty weird.

Wrist Watch
Apr 19, 2011

What?

How do the bonuses for having the other game work for DA, exactly? Do you import your old save completely and start your old character in the new game or can I get my goodies while starting a brand new character?

see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

New enemy showcase with lame Capcom Unity guy.
Features something kind of new and crazy that you might want to wait to see for yourself in the game.

Some Capcom UK guy showing off a little bit of gameplay from the new area and gaving a broad overview of it.
Shows the same spoiler as the above video so if you care, you know, don't watch this one either.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

blat blat blat posted:

When you actually add it to your cart (or uh maybe it's post checkout, don't recall which) it pops up some thing saying you'll get a Dark Arisen Death theme + Ring DLC. Doesnt say a drat thing about it in the description which is pretty weird.

Ah, thanks for that. I couldn't find Dark Arisen available for sale on Xbox Live, so I'm going to assume they don't have the same perk. I'm gonna have to get a 360 copy anyway since that's what I had originally.

SombereroLad
May 18, 2006

WAHAHAHAHAHA
Fun Shoe
I'm a little disappointed that the mystic knight still doesn't use their shield in the normal combat stance.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
So I just played through as a Ranger and it was a lot of fun. I just reclassed to Assassin..is there something I should know? Should I go sword and bow or stick with the daggers?

Also, if I kill that drake over by Devilfire Grove, does it dragonforge all my stuff?

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
So how ridiculous is the Ur-dragon now that the game has been out so long? Is he even killable anymore?

Jastiger posted:

So I just played through as a Ranger and it was a lot of fun. I just reclassed to Assassin..is there something I should know? Should I go sword and bow or stick with the daggers?

Also, if I kill that drake over by Devilfire Grove, does it dragonforge all my stuff?

Has a chance of dragonforging your equipment depending on what rank it is. Something like 15% for rank 3 I think. It calculates it separately for each piece of equipment though.

EDIT: http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Forged_Equipment

RatHat fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Apr 20, 2013

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

RatHat posted:

So how ridiculous is the Ur-dragon now that the game has been out so long? Is he even killable anymore?


Has a chance of dragonforging your equipment depending on what rank it is. Something like 15% for rank 3 I think. It calculates it separately for each piece of equipment though.

EDIT: http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Forged_Equipment

Ah thanks I did not know that.

So for Assassins...daggers or swords?

Dr. Abysmal
Feb 17, 2010

We're all doomed

quote:

NPCs
-You will not gain Affinity with Assalam simply by talking to him anymore.


I'm surprised they didn't extend this to Caxton too. Asalam would have been my "beloved" because of this had I not known ahead of time to pull my knives on him to lower his affinity.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Jastiger posted:

So for Assassins...daggers or swords?

Daggers. The daggers skills are great. Zipping along the ground like an idiot, poison stabs, a pretty good counter/parry move.. I had a lot of fun with daggers.

Azaael
Jan 15, 2013

Coffee?

Dr. Abysmal posted:

I'm surprised they didn't extend this to Caxton too. Asalam would have been my "beloved" because of this had I not known ahead of time to pull my knives on him to lower his affinity.


He WAS my first. And now no one else gets to, ahh, 'experience' having to go all the way back to Cassardis to change classes because he's crashing at their house. :colbert:


(These days, he ends up with Reynard or Julian. My friend ended up with Fournival.)

AzMiLion
Dec 29, 2010

Truck you say?

kirbysuperstar posted:

Daggers. The daggers skills are great. Zipping along the ground like an idiot, poison stabs, a pretty good counter/parry move.. I had a lot of fun with daggers.


Swords, Dire Gouge is the most amazing thing. Just bring both.

Reive
May 21, 2009

So I'm assuming to get the bonus stuff from owning the original all I need is a save right? So I can just trade in the game?

Nahxela
Oct 11, 2008

Execution
That's what's assumed, but I don't think most of us really know the specifics

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007
That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.
So for those of us who never played the original, will it be obvious where the the original game stops and the expansion starts? Is there a level or storyline progression requirement or can you just start doing the content at character creation?

edit: also, I keep hearing about free travel or something for returning players. Does that mean that only people who bought the original game will get this benefit, or does everybody get it but the developers are just making sure to tell the old players so they know to expect it because they know old players are just used to the mechanic not being free?

GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Apr 21, 2013

see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

GreatGreen posted:

So for those of us who never played the original, will it be obvious where the the original game stops and the expansion starts? Is there a level or storyline progression requirement or can you just start doing the content at character creation?

edit: also, I keep hearing about free travel or something for returning players. Does that mean that only people who bought the original game will get this benefit, or does everybody get it but the developers are just making sure to tell the old players so they know to expect it because they know old players are just used to the mechanic not being free?

You have to expend items called Ferrystones to fast travel. New players will need to find or buy Ferrystones as normal, returning players will get an Unlimited Ferrystone that never runs out. They're not particularly rare or expensive items, it's not really a big deal.

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

Some say that his politics are terrifying, and that he once punched a horse to the ground...


Nobody's got an idea of how much space the PS3 digital copy of DA will take up? Preorder says 2.5 megabytes or some reason. Must be the 'unlock.'

edit: durr, the preorder is the ring set and theme, which makes sense for 2.5 megabytes. Still, anyone know a game size?

Ineffiable fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Apr 21, 2013

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy
They're even cheaper in Dark Arisen. Only 5k which is chump change after the early part of the game.

GreatGreen posted:

So for those of us who never played the original, will it be obvious where the the original game stops and the expansion starts? Is there a level or storyline progression requirement or can you just start doing the content at character creation?
The dev diaries said the NPC that takes you there appears as soon as you get your pawn, which you do in like the first two hours of the game. You just access the expansion by talking to her in the intro town, it's completely separate from the main game.

Judging from the gear in the videos, it looks like the intended level range is probably just before starting post-game but it's kind of hard to say. I haven't read any intended level ranges but maybe they did post one.

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Cialis Railman
Apr 20, 2007

Rascyc posted:

They're even cheaper in Dark Arisen. Only 5k which is chump change after the early part of the game.

Hell, do things correctly and you can earn over 5k before even leaving the first town.

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