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I am rarely ever left speechless but gently caress this is like looking into a time machine The following were posted on NOM Facebook and their website by their organization (not a user..by the actual organization)  
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And while we're at it let's get rid of those pesky black people in our restaurants. The constitution covers that, right?
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Rickycat posted:And while we're at it let's get rid of those pesky black people in our restaurants. The constitution covers that, right? Well you're the real racist for bringing it up in the first place.  
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I love that NOM wails and nash their teeth about being designated a hate group by the SPLC and then go ahead and post segregationist propaganda without a shred of irony. Gee, Maggie, I have no idea why people think you're a hate group. Maybe we're the real bigots? 
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Apr 23, 2013 04:51
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None of this has anything to do with same sex marriage, which is not legal in Hawaii. But please show contempt for decades old anti-discrimination laws, NOM. I'm sure that will go over well.
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platedlizard posted:Now I'm picturing a crowd of rioting ballerinas. They're really strong and pretty much impervious to pain, so I imagine they could really wreck some damage. I mean they practice until their drat feet bleed. I'd love to see them protest.
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The Nevada Senate just voted to repeal Nevada's constitutional ban on gay marriage, and replace it with an affirmative guarantee of marriage equality. http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/government/nevada-senate-passes-resolution-legalize-gay-marriage
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Today, we will see votes from the Nevada House (if passed gay marriage is on the ballot in 2016), the Delaware House (if passed it goes to the Senate, where Dems have a majority, and the Gov has promised to sign it into law), the Rhode Island Senate Judiciary Committee (if passed it goes to their full Senate this week, and the Gov has promised to sign it into law), and the French legislature (if passed France has legal marriage equality). Today's going to be a big (potentially very good) day.
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Sweeney Tom posted:Today, we will see votes from the Nevada House (if passed gay marriage is on the ballot in 2016), the Delaware House (if passed it goes to the Senate, where Dems have a majority, and the Gov has promised to sign it into law), the Rhode Island Senate Judiciary Committee (if passed it goes to their full Senate this week, and the Gov has promised to sign it into law), and the French legislature (if passed France has legal marriage equality). Looked like the Nevada one needs the exact same thing (senate and house) to happen next year, too, before it goes onto the 2016 ballot. Exciting stuff overall, though!
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Apr 23, 2013 15:21
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France's National Assembly has adopted the same-sex marriage bill. 566 MPs have voted: 331 for, 225 against, 10 abstentions. gently caress yes, they've done it!
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Kassad posted:France's National Assembly has adopted the same-sex marriage bill. 566 MPs have voted: 331 for, 225 against, 10 abstentions. When will Hollande sign it, and how long until it goes into effect?
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They're planning to have it go into effect by the middle of June.
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News reports I've seen say there might be an appeal to the Constitutional Council. Is there any chance that might derail things or would it just be an irritating delay?
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Crameltonian posted:News reports I've seen say there might be a threat to the Constitutional Council. Is there any chance that might derail things or would it just be an irritating delay? The government's confident the challenge will be dismissed. With the passing today, there's no chance it doesn't make it to Hollande now.
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Right before the vote two protesters from the movement against the bill tried to unfurl a banner. The Speaker got angrier than at any point before in the debate and demanded they be thrown out: Claude Bartolone posted:"Get those nutcases out of here! The enemies of democracy have no place in this chamber! Throw those nutcases out! Come on, throw those enemies of democracy out of here! Throw this man out of here! No place for the enemies of democracy in this chamber! You can see the incident in this video from a French news channel (apologies, there might be ads before it starts).
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Kassad posted:Right before the vote two protesters from the movement against the bill tried to unfurl a banner. The Speaker got angrier than at any point before in the debate and demanded they be thrown out: I like Bartolone, he was MP for my department (93) before becoming Speaker.
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quote:All five Republicans in the 38-member Rhode Island Senate plan to support the same-sex marriage bill, RIPR has learned. This could be helpful to win Republicans in other states, but RI is an outlier with such a small GOP minority and anti-gay Senate leadership. Expect a gloating LCR press release about the only caucus to unanimously back marriage.
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:Whip count is at least 18 now. Seems like they'll find the last 2 votes somewhere. Am I mathing correctly that 20 Democrats oppose it, 13 democrats support it, and 5 republicans support it?
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kenlyric posted:Am I mathing correctly that 20 Democrats oppose it, 13 democrats support it, and 5 republicans support it?
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The hashtag "Homosexuals must be killed" is trending on twitter. "Gay Star News posted:A Twitter hashtag loosely translated as ‘Homosexuals must be killed’ is going viral before France's National Assembly votes on gay marriage today (23 April). It is unknown where ‘Il Faut Tuer Les Homosexuels’ started from, but thousands of social networking users are tweeting about the trending topic. As Yagg.com points out, many are pointing to a user called Mamadou Neutron for the original tweet. He has since deleted the tweet but continues to publish homophobic messages. While some anti-gay Twitter users have just posted the hashtag, others have added messages like ‘Kill them all’ and ‘For a better world…’ Gay rights organization SOS Homophobie is inviting everyone to screen capture the homophobic tweets and send the pictures to them. Christian Love everyone!
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Some of that may be from non Christians. I assume France's Muslim population is not in favor of gay marriage by and large.
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greatn posted:Some of that may be from non Christians. I assume France's Muslim population is not in favor of gay marriage by and large. True, but there's been a lot of rather rowdy and at times violent protest from Christians, especially Catholics. They're also a lot larger and a lot more influential than the Muslim population, although they're not as immediately visible as a religious group (if that makes sense).
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greatn posted:Some of that may be from non Christians. I assume France's Muslim population is not in favor of gay marriage by and large. Yeah, while a lot of the most vocal groups in the U.S. against gay marriage are christian, its important to remember that Christianity is not the only religion with special marriage ceremonies (that come with restrictions on who can participate) nor is it the only religion with politically active members and groups. Orthodox Judaism, Tibetan and Therevana Buddhism, most Latter Day Saints, and Islamic practices of all stripes all oppose same-sex marriage, for a variety of reasons.
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Teddybear posted:True, but there's been a lot of rather rowdy and at times violent protest from Christians, especially Catholics. They're also a lot larger and a lot more influential than the Muslim population, although they're not as immediately visible as a religious group (if that makes sense). Yeah the anti-same sex marriage movement and its protests were mainly White and Catholic, but the Archbishop of Paris, the leader of the French Muslim Council and the Great Rabbi of France all came out against gay marriage.
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Well it's going to mainly be white Catholics because that's the majority religious types in France. Numbers don't really make bigotry any better or worse just more influential.
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So the Rhode Island judiciary committee approved bringing it to the full Senate on a 7-4 vote. I believe that vote is expected for tomorrow.
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Kassad posted:Right before the vote two protesters from the movement against the bill tried to unfurl a banner. The Speaker got angrier than at any point before in the debate and demanded they be thrown out: Does French have a single word that means "enemies of democracy?" because he sure used that a lot.
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Nah it's several words: "les ennemis de la démocratie". He did use the French for 'throw out' a lot though. 
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Delaware's House just passed the marriage equality bill, 23-18. Now it's off to their Senate. If passed, the Governor has vowed to sign it into law.
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Marriage just passed the House in Delaware. I guess it goes to a Senate committee and then the full Senate? I've been having a lovely week so far, but France, Delaware, and Rhode Island news is actually cheering me up. 
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Does anybody know anything about the Delaware Senate? A 13-8 majority does not leave much room for defectors and apparently there was a lot of arm twisting in 2011 so support for the civil unions bill is not a reliable indicator.
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In addition to the numerous good news for marriage equality, Senate Democrat Kent Eken, from a district that narrowly supported last year's ban, announced his support for Minnesota's gay marriage bill, and Representative Ken Dunkin (chair of the black caucus in the Illinois legislature) signed onto Illinois' gay marriage bill as a co-sponsor today. Oh, and a new survey finds that support for gay marriage in Houston has reached 52%. Chris James 2 fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Apr 24, 2013 |
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ApathyGifted posted:Does French have a single word that means "enemies of democracy?" because he sure used that a lot. I'm guessing that's because the anti-same sex marriage camp kept repeating they represented the majority and that the government was anti-democratic, even though same sex marriage and adoption was a campaign promise of all left wing candidates, including Hollande, a campaign promise of the Socialist Party ,the Greens and the Left Front during the parliamentary elections. It's like when two girls kissed in front of an anti-same sex marriage protest and an old guy walked up to them and said "You are fascists!" 
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So happy that the French passed the bill! Here is a map in French of the countries that legalized union between homosexual (light blue), who acknowledge it in another type of contract (dark blue) and who are heavily against it (prison, capital punishment) in red. There's still a lot of work. http://info.rts.ch/cartes/info.php?carte=69
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Le0 posted:So happy that the French passed the bill! Or you could just go to Wikipedia's map, which is a lot easier to read. (France and Uruguay will turn dark blue as soon as both laws are officially signed.   Can someone who knows more about Japan and South Korea say why they haven't done anything on the issue? From what little I know of the countries, it seems like they should have done at least something by now. VirtualStranger fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Apr 24, 2013 |
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VirtualStranger posted:
Apparently their constitution says this: quote:"Marriage shall be based only on the mutual consent of both sexes and it shall be maintained through mutual cooperation with the equal rights of husband and wife as a basis." And there's really not any strong feelings in either direction regarding LGBT rights. e: referencing Japan anyway.
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All I know about Japan and Marriage Equality is they refused to allow SSM in Final Fantasy XI 
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So we will never get same sex couples in a Fire Emblem? 
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From what I understand in both Japan and South Korea it's not so much dislike of gays or anything, it's just a general shared apathy. LGBT advocates exist and, again purely in my understanding, they don't face tons of opposition beyond old people being stereotypical old people and just kinda not getting it, it's just that the government constantly uses the 'well there are bigger issues' line and most activists are kinda ok with it because they agree. It's a cultural thing, gay marriage and the like are seen as 'frivolous' problems. There are activists on either side but the general sentiment is 'whatever'. Of course this also means if they can get some progressive leaders who would push for these things they could have it done fairly easy. Kinda a catch 22 thing, not a ton of people going "AGH FUCKIN GAYS" is nice, but at the same time that means the status quo is pretty strong.
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Kurtofan posted:So we will never get same sex couples in a Fire Emblem? I think there's an Easter egg in FE7 actually, where if you max out relationship and try to marry off two guys, an old man appears and says you can't do that, "but I'm rooting for you brother!" or something like that
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