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Deleuzionist
Jul 20, 2010

we respect the antelope; for the antelope is not a mere antelope
The Springbank 18 don't sit right with me. It's not a bad whisky but kind of subdued and a little bland for a bottle of that price. The sulphur-burnt match-sandstone smells also mask the rest of the nose too much for my tastes, and the smell left in an empty glass can be best described as sandy. I still like this more than I recall liking the 10yo when I tasted it but I'd still expect a little more show from it.

I gave a glass to a friend who likes the SB 10 and 15, and he was equally unimpressed. Maybe save your buck and get one of the younger ones if you're considering looking into this distillery.

Deleuzionist fucked around with this message at 03:08 on May 9, 2013

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NightConqueror
Oct 5, 2006
im in ur base killin ur mans
I've been perfectly happy with the 12 year old cask strength version. I would consider myself pretty sensitive to sulfur, and it luckily has none of those notes. It's more on the slightly sour side, which I do like.

Haven't sampled anything else from Springbank yet.

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!
So I have been drinking this grangestone and I really enjoy it. It's a total wine exclusive, and it goes for 30 bucks.



It starts off really sweet with a strong vanilla taste than pretty rapidly gets pretty spicy and ends with a cinnamon finish.

All in all it's a pretty good buy for such an affordable price. If you got a total wine in your area I recommend you try it.

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Politicalrancor
Jan 29, 2008

Whiskey stones are pretty useless, imo.

Also I made a decent drink at my restaurant tonight. Catdaddy "moonshine", tonic and an orange wedge. Beautiful citrus vanilla drink.

DoctaFun
Dec 12, 2005

Dammit Francis!
What are you guys taking these pictures with :psyduck:, they look like camera phone pictures from 2004.

I've tried whisky stones as well and was not a fan. I don't put ice in my scotch, but I love my bourbon with just one or two ice cubes :). The late drink dillution is okay with me.

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!

DoctaFun posted:

What are you guys taking these pictures with :psyduck:, they look like camera phone pictures from 2004.

I've tried whisky stones as well and was not a fan. I don't put ice in my scotch, but I love my bourbon with just one or two ice cubes :). The late drink dillution is okay with me.

The lighting in my place is really terrible. So any indoor picture looks like crap.

Gregorio
Aug 9, 2010
Just got back from a trip to Europe with a 10 day tour of Scotland as well. Didn't get to visit every distillery but I hit up my faves and got to try so much whisky (probably about 55... I recorded 43 but tried about 11 more in Dufftown at a couple of events there associated with The Whisky Shop Dufftown) and a couple more at Albannach in London. 10 in Dufftown were blind tasted and the other I just can't remember.

My haul includes:
14yo Springbank 1st Fill Sherry Cask from their "cage". No distinct branding or anything, just a full bottle sample really.
Aberlour 200 year (town) anniversary, 12yo cask strength.
Dailuane Flora and Fauna 16yo... should have got the Mortlach, regretting it now. But I didn't get to try the Mortlach so I went with what I got to taste :( They also had a Mortlach for 100gbp which was just for the Spirit of Speyside festival but I baulked at the price... don't regret that so much.
Glenfarclas 12yo cask strength, limited edition Distillery only bottling. "Last of the Millennium" Barrel filled 31/12/99 and bottled 10/08/12. Bought it untasted because they were releasing 20 a day and the visitor centre was only open until 4pm and we turned up at 4:30 and they still had one there... amazing luck and a bargain at 62gbp. After I bought it the kind lady at the visitor centre offered me a taste and god drat it was a good decision to buy the whole Litre!!! Awesome!
Highland Park Drakkar 1L for 40gbp... while good it is more in line with a sherried HP like the 1994 travel exclusive... even though it was a cheaper bottle with a more standard taste the Earl Magnus was not interesting enough for the price and Loki and Thor were too expensive for me to justify... only mild regrets at not buying the Loki.

KhyrosFinalCut posted:

On the subject of Highland Park, has anyone here had Thor or Loki?

For various personal reasons, I won't be able to stop myself from buying Odin, but I'm wondering if anyone has impressions of the collection so far.
As stated I got to try the Thor and Loki, both really good whisky. Thor was a bit more subdued and consistent while Loki was wild and had a lot of spice and kick when tasting. The guide explained they were trying to capture the spirit of the Norse gods in the bottlings and I thought that was fitting. For me that meant I enjoyed the Loki more but both were great. Bear in mind I am a Highland Park fan so ymmv. If you want to snag an Odin though don't hesitate on the purchase despite the price. The guide was saying they are making diminishing amounts of Loki --> Thor --> Odin and a lot of people are complaining to them they won't be able to complete their collections.


duckstab posted:

In that case you've got heaps of options, but if you fancy something interesting, check out the 1986 G&M Secret Stills bottling they've got (it's a Talisker).
1986 Secret Stills is awesome, echo that sentiment. I got it a while back though and didn't pay todays prices. Not sure if that would have changed my view though.

spankmeister posted:

In other news: got myself a Tomatin 15, I'm very underwhelmed by it tbh. There's subtle and there is simple lack of flavour. This falls into the latter category. They could do with some better casks or maybe start finishing their whisky.
Agreed on the Tomatin, didn't try it on this trip but did try it at Whisky Live Sydney. I have the remains of a 25yo here at home and it is some great whisky but when I tried the younger bottlings I was left underwhelmed. A shame that they weren't closer or even if they were good but in a different way to the 25yo because the prices were much nicer but...

Also since there have been a few collections posted and I took a photo before I left of my own:


And these are my new bottles:

I.G.
Oct 10, 2000

How common are bad batches of whiskey? Because I just bought a bottle of Evan Williams 1783 for the first time and it has a really horrible chemical taste.

On the other hand, the bottle of Evan Williams single barrel I have might be my favorite whiskey in the $20-30 range.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






I.G. posted:

How common are bad batches of whiskey? Because I just bought a bottle of Evan Williams 1783 for the first time and it has a really horrible chemical taste.

On the other hand, the bottle of Evan Williams single barrel I have might be my favorite whiskey in the $20-30 range.

It's not super common, but it certainly happens.

You could take it back to the shop.

NightConqueror
Oct 5, 2006
im in ur base killin ur mans

I.G. posted:

How common are bad batches of whiskey? Because I just bought a bottle of Evan Williams 1783 for the first time and it has a really horrible chemical taste.

On the other hand, the bottle of Evan Williams single barrel I have might be my favorite whiskey in the $20-30 range.

I'd put some in a glass with a bit of water and let it air out for maybe an hour or so and then see how it tastes. I've run across whiskies that really needed to open up before they tasted good. If it's still really lovely after that, maybe you do have a bum bottle. I've never run across it, but I suppose its possible.

satchmo.joe
Oct 24, 2012
I was recently recomended "The Famous Grouse" as a cheap-ish starter Scotch. Is it any good (Am I going to be buying a bottle of horse piss, so that my friends can laugh their asses off at me?)

Kenning
Jan 11, 2009

I really want to post goatse. Instead I only have these🍄.



It's nothing to write home about, but it's nothing to be ashamed of. I generally use the old Grouse for mixing, rather than sipping.

NightConqueror
Oct 5, 2006
im in ur base killin ur mans
If you're going to be getting cheap-ish blends, I'd just go with Johnny Walker Black. It's a fairly good introduction into scotch and showcases the smoky feature without being too overwhelming. It's a good mild sipper that I wouldn't ever turn down.

Mellow_
Sep 13, 2010

:frog:
I just finished off a bottle of Glenlivet 12 a few days ago. It was very smooth and sweet but felt like it lacked depth and a finish. Especially a finish, it felt like it just fell flat at the end. I'm assuming the Glenlivet 15 & 18 have greater depth, but are they rather similar to the 12?

I was looking for Laphroaig Quarter Cask to satisfy myself with tonight but there wasn't any available at my lovely small town liquor store, so I grabbed Glenfiddich 15 Solera instead. Looking forward to it!

Troll Bridgington
Dec 22, 2011

Keeping up foreign relations.

AuxPriest posted:

I just finished off a bottle of Glenlivet 12 a few days ago. It was very smooth and sweet but felt like it lacked depth and a finish. Especially a finish, it felt like it just fell flat at the end. I'm assuming the Glenlivet 15 & 18 have greater depth, but are they rather similar to the 12?

I was looking for Laphroaig Quarter Cask to satisfy myself with tonight but there wasn't any available at my lovely small town liquor store, so I grabbed Glenfiddich 15 Solera instead. Looking forward to it!

I've tried the Glenlivet 15 French Oak, and I think it was better than the 12, but not something I would go out of my way to get. They're both good, just... boring.

The Solera is good stuff.

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy
I liked the glenfiddich 12 much more than the glen levit 12. both were nothing spectacular, but the glenfiddich was really drinkable and smooth and easy and i'd get another bottle again next time it's on sale.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Kenning posted:

It's nothing to write home about, but it's nothing to be ashamed of. I generally use the old Grouse for mixing, rather than sipping.

Have you tried the Black Grouse? I think it's pretty decent.

Kenning
Jan 11, 2009

I really want to post goatse. Instead I only have these🍄.



No, but I've been meaning to try it soon. I've heard it's mighty tasty for its price point.

biglads
Feb 21, 2007

I could've gone to Blatherwycke



So....Glenlivet Alpha.

http://www.masterofmalt.com/Blog/post/The-Glenlivet-Alpha-Its-Started.aspx

Marketing gone crazy?

I do know that Pernod Ricard were *ahem* having a play a few years back. Those nasty angels taking a share? Well let's stymie them by shrinkwrapping our casks.

I wonder if this is a shrinkwrapped Glenlivet?

NightConqueror
Oct 5, 2006
im in ur base killin ur mans

biglads posted:

So....Glenlivet Alpha.

http://www.masterofmalt.com/Blog/post/The-Glenlivet-Alpha-Its-Started.aspx

Marketing gone crazy?

I do know that Pernod Ricard were *ahem* having a play a few years back. Those nasty angels taking a share? Well let's stymie them by shrinkwrapping our casks.

I wonder if this is a shrinkwrapped Glenlivet?

Just another way to sell hyper young spirits at hyper high prices. And people will buy it - that's the sad part.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
Haha holy poo poo, 'colossal velocity' and 'chap of steel' were both mentioned as possible mock names for the Alan Partridge film in the trailer for it, is it some way affiliated or does the marketing guy just have a sense of humour?

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Jakabite posted:

Haha holy poo poo, 'colossal velocity' and 'chap of steel' were both mentioned as possible mock names for the Alan Partridge film in the trailer for it, is it some way affiliated or does the marketing guy just have a sense of humour?

The guys at Master of Malt have a good sense of humour. :)

Politicalrancor
Jan 29, 2008

Im curious about this Buffalo Trace Experimental Collection: http://caskers.com/product/bt-experimental/

There is a Rice finished bourbon, Oak finished bourbon, and two different coopering methods.

Troll Bridgington
Dec 22, 2011

Keeping up foreign relations.

Politicalrancor posted:

Im curious about this Buffalo Trace Experimental Collection: http://caskers.com/product/bt-experimental/

There is a Rice finished bourbon, Oak finished bourbon, and two different coopering methods.

The heavy char and rice sound pretty tasty. Buffalo Trace is really the only bourbon I've tried, and I did enjoy it quite a bit.

I would like to try more bourbons, are there any obvious choices I should go after?

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy
Knob Creek is my favorite bourbon so far.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Something I have discovered is that Collingwood Rye actually makes a decent manhattan.

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.
Knob Creek 9 year small batch is decently good but don't bother with the single barrel reserve. This has been said in the thread before but I put it to the test last month, it really doesn't taste as good as the 9 year and is just 20 proof stronger, to no good end.

For other bourbon suggestions, I've been enjoying Bulleit recently, myself.

KhyrosFinalCut
Dec 16, 2004

Get it?
Fun Facts about Famous Grouse and JW Black as I understand them:
Famous Grouse is basically the UK Equivalent of Johnny Black here. (ubiquitous not bad cheap-ish blend)
The central single malt component of Famous Grouse is a Highland Park, and the center of Johnny Black is a Cardhu. Fun to taste them side by side.

Politicalrancor
Jan 29, 2008

Eagle Rare 10 year, Angel's Envy, Four Roses Single Barrel

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy

KhyrosFinalCut posted:

Fun Facts about Famous Grouse and JW Black as I understand them:
Famous Grouse is basically the UK Equivalent of Johnny Black here. (ubiquitous not bad cheap-ish blend)
The central single malt component of Famous Grouse is a Highland Park, and the center of Johnny Black is a Cardhu. Fun to taste them side by side.

How much of the highland park can you taste in the grouse? I really enjoyed highland park a lot.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






KhyrosFinalCut posted:


The central single malt component of Famous Grouse is a Highland Park

Really? I thought it was glenturret.

Mellow_
Sep 13, 2010

:frog:
Wow the Glenfiddich 15 Solera is amazing stuff! Anyone have any recommendations for something that might be similar but more fresh and floral? The Solera feels a tad heavy for my likes.

Troll Bridgington
Dec 22, 2011

Keeping up foreign relations.

spankmeister posted:

Really? I thought it was glenturret.

According to Masters of Malt, it's Glenrothes, Macallan and Highland Park... not sure how accurate that's supposed to be, but if it's true I will definitely be grabbing a bottle. I'm in love with Highland Park 12 and I'm almost halfway done with it. :smith:

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



I bought a bottle of Jim Beam Black yesterday, because it was only a couple bucks more expensive than white, so it was worth a try.

Well, from the start it was good, nice mouth feel, good flavour. But by god the aftertaste made me gag.

KhyrosFinalCut
Dec 16, 2004

Get it?

spankmeister posted:

Really? I thought it was glenturret.

I'm willing to believe my information is incorrect/out of date on this one.

On bourbons, I like Woodford reserve quite a lot and Willett remains my favorite.

Furious Lobster
Jun 17, 2006

Soiled Meat
New additions to a friend's whiskey collection; supposedly the 23 year old's production is going to be stopped but planning on opening the 15 year old tonight. For those still looking, we actually found a readily available supply in England.

Deleuzionist
Jul 20, 2010

we respect the antelope; for the antelope is not a mere antelope
Pouring a little more love for the Dalwhinnie 15. Already called it a nice dram for the price it commands but I kind of like this odd balance it has. When you roll it around your mouth it starts building up nice flavours but behind them a bitter alcoholic tang begins to rise. Just before reaching a stinging, too boozey point, which is a major turn off for me and a reason I can't dig the younger Auchentoshans or Glendronachs, the taste bends beautifully into a creamy, taffylike afterwash with none of the bitterness. Nice.

KhyrosFinalCut
Dec 16, 2004

Get it?

Furious Lobster posted:

New additions to a friend's whiskey collection; supposedly the 23 year old's production is going to be stopped but planning on opening the 15 year old tonight. For those still looking, we actually found a readily available supply in England.

Oh very nice. Funny thing, I really like the van winkle 12 even more than the pappy 23 in terms of taste, but the mouthfeel of the 23 is really gorgeous and the only other bourbons that have the same kind of chewiness are the willets that I've had.

Erwin
Feb 17, 2006

I don't know much about scotch and I'd like to get a decent bottle for my shelf. I had Macallan 12 recently and liked it, but it's like $65 at the liquor store (PA :smith:). Is that reasonable for scotch? I really have no idea. Is it worth going to Delaware to buy it and smuggle it back over the border like it's the god damned 1920s?

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Cpt.Wacky
Apr 17, 2005

Erwin posted:

I don't know much about scotch and I'd like to get a decent bottle for my shelf. I had Macallan 12 recently and liked it, but it's like $65 at the liquor store (PA :smith:). Is that reasonable for scotch? I really have no idea. Is it worth going to Delaware to buy it and smuggle it back over the border like it's the god damned 1920s?

I expect to pay at least that much in Washington with our lovely spirit taxes for decent single malt in a smaller, more rural city. As you look at the more expensive stuff it becomes more worthwhile to seek out better pricing. For example, I won't pay $135 for Lagavulin 16 locally, but I'll take a look around for it in Seattle where it might be less.

The OP has some good recommendations and I found the scotch flavor maps to be useful when just getting started.

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