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redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

Fucknag posted:

Wasn't the V12, not impressed.

"Wait a second, I thought every Countach was...ohhhh. Hmm."

Shame about the run though, maybe the guy made a bargain with Satan for a drag car.

redgubbinz fucked around with this message at 02:45 on May 13, 2013

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Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Don't go WOT in top gear going 1500 rpm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T-UVe8mNtc

mykel
Aug 27, 2006

Let it bleep.

Am I crazy, or is this kind of unacceptable? "No sudden accelerations"? Give me a break.

I can understand that it's not a good idea to floor it in 5th/6th at near-idle, but should the engine really be this easy to detonate?

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
Yeah that's not why it broke. I've seen this a few times recently and it seems to be due to the finishing and/or material used in the cranks. In the last couple of years Subaru has tried nitriding the cranks and doesn't anymore and now they are all heat-treated. Similar thing going on with the block castings. The new "704" castings seem to be much more prone to cracking a sleeve. Pistons too for that matter. Jeez, Subaru needs to get their poo poo together.

rcman50166
Mar 23, 2010

by XyloJW
I was going to say, that looks like an engineering fault if anything. Before I even consider anything else, that crank, especially where it broke doesn't look very meaty. I'm sure testing and FEA was done, but under no circumstances should a crank break within the operational envelope of an engine.

Dave Inc.
Nov 26, 2007
Let's have a drink!

rcman50166 posted:

I was going to say, that looks like an engineering fault if anything. Before I even consider anything else, that crank, especially where it broke doesn't look very meaty. I'm sure testing and FEA was done, but under no circumstances should a crank break within the operational envelope of an engine.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Here's a 944 crank for comparison:


Granted that's a straight four vs. a flat four so the crank has to be thinned down, but holy drat that Subaru crank looks fragile.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
For reference, here's an older EJ257 (STI) crank with stock counterweights intact.



Crank failures are rare, this one was interesting. I'm guessing that the design is both for a packaging and potentially oiling concern (as Subarus like to grenade rod bearings). It always surprises me how big the main bearing journals are.

Speaking purely out of my rear end, I think the reason why the webs can be so narrow is because the Subaru flat four is really well balanced compared to conventional inline fours like the Porsche crank.

Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 23:23 on May 13, 2013

Anarchist Mae
Nov 5, 2009

by Reene
Lipstick Apathy
Speaking of Subarus...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLP-HCcX9as

*BWRHHAAAAAAAAaaa* :black101:

Lord Gaga
May 9, 2010

Seat Safety Switch posted:

Speaking purely out of my rear end, I think the reason why the webs can be so narrow is because the Subaru flat four is really well balanced compared to conventional inline fours like the Porsche crank.

Except these are failing because of shearing not because of the maximum effect of the natural frequencies of the system. It isnt possible o tell without looking close and under a microscope but I think its as simple as overloading a relatively small cross sectional area of steel. John @ costa mesa speculates a lot but I think he is right this time.

Dave Inc. posted:

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Here's a 944 crank for comparison:


Granted that's a straight four vs. a flat four so the crank has to be thinned down, but holy drat that Subaru crank looks fragile.

Keep in mind there's probably two decades of engineering difference in the two cranks. Newer Porsche 997 Flat 6 cranks look much more like the Subaru, though its still not nearly as thin of counterweights.

jamal posted:

Yeah that's not why it broke. I've seen this a few times recently and it seems to be due to the finishing and/or material used in the cranks. In the last couple of years Subaru has tried nitriding the cranks and doesn't anymore and now they are all heat-treated. Similar thing going on with the block castings. The new "704" castings seem to be much more prone to cracking a sleeve. Pistons too for that matter. Jeez, Subaru needs to get their poo poo together.

Nitrided cranks are still heat treated, they just use low alloy steels that are closer to case hardening and then add nitriding instead of a through hardening steel like 4140.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

Lord Gaga posted:

Except these are failing because of shearing not because of the maximum effect of the natural frequencies of the system. It isnt possible o tell without looking close and under a microscope but I think its as simple as overloading a relatively small cross sectional area of steel. John @ costa mesa speculates a lot but I think he is right this time.
Right, I was saying compared to the 944 crank that the Subaru crank has a justification for its webs being narrower with smaller counterweights (other than just more advanced metallurgy, computer modelling, etc). I think you're right and it is damaged from shearing.

Here's an example of an older Subaru turbo crank, an early 90s EJ22T, but I can't find one that would be about the same age as a 944, especially since the EJ started in '89 and the 944 was almost done by then. The webbing is still quite small with teeny counterweights, which doesn't surprise me since Subaru is pretty conservative and probably copied the EJ design the entire way down the line once they hit something functional. I don't know much about the EA turbos but maybe chrisgt has some pictures.

Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 03:37 on May 14, 2013

echomadman
Aug 24, 2004

Nap Ghost
I hope this is visible (facebook video), cant find it on youtube yet. Mk2 escort has a crazy crash in a rally here in ireland

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=583719431667911

edit: found it on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIP__btVRic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIP__btVRic

echomadman fucked around with this message at 21:04 on May 14, 2013

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


That is lucky in the extreme. I'm amazed the car didn't flip.

Here's another amazing save, in a GT2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pqcXxfpw2I


Have you ever wondered what the inside of a carburetor looks like while the car it's in is driven hard? Wonder no more!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKuSSmAum6c

KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 22:19 on May 14, 2013

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe
This movie looks like it's going to be amazing

Between that and Rush, my head might explode. Not just what looks like properly done racing movies, but properly done racing movies about the coolest eras in racing.

:fap:

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008

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VikingSkull posted:

This movie looks like it's going to be amazing

Between that and Rush, my head might explode. Not just what looks like properly done racing movies, but properly done racing movies about the coolest eras in racing.

:fap:

HOLY loving poo poo. Cant remember the last time i was this excited to actually pay 20 bucks to watch a movie.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe
The Snake also has a pretty bitchin' car collection

He even brought his 'Cuda and hauler to Leno's

Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 00:41 on May 15, 2013

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Sébastien Loeb has been test driving the 206 T16 Pikes Peak. That thing is fast. The tiniest glimpse of what could have been if group b had been kept alive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7Dv3lqxH6I

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

The 405 at the end still sounds better.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
This just in, Russians are loving insane and their roads are horrible. In fact in a few sections of these videos it appears that staying off/out of the road/mudbog/river would be easier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afJ18eJeNgU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VOULfira3o

RapeWhistle
May 26, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXlpLXHNTZQ

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
What're the window grates for, I wonder?

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

[-]
The highly modified Rebellion R2K, which underneath the Koenigsegg exterior is just a regular old Ultima GTR.

real_scud
Sep 5, 2002

One of these days these elbows are gonna walk all over you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyJsjko1GGY
This guys engine says "gently caress you! I don't want to drift anymore"

Rectal Placenta
Feb 25, 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1o2rpO_JY

Awesome rear end grandpa stops a runaway Detroit.

Rectal Placenta fucked around with this message at 03:15 on May 22, 2013

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
poo poo :stonk:

That engine needs a rebuild now... see the sparks flying out the exhaust right before he choked it partially? I don't even want to know what those sparks were produced by, seeing as I am reasonably certain that's not a turbocharged DD.

If I had to guess, it's rings, which would also explain why it runs away, it's getting plenty of fuel off the walls of the cylinders on every stroke.

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005

real_scud posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyJsjko1GGY
This guys engine says "gently caress you! I don't want to drift anymore"

Holy cow that was a quick response by the officials.

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe

real_scud posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyJsjko1GGY
This guys engine says "gently caress you! I don't want to drift anymore"

The literal pile of metal that drops below the engine when he stops is the best part of this video.

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

Looks like the turbo exploded and severed a fuel line. That's a pantshitter if I've ever seen one.

ROFLBOT
Apr 1, 2005
Speaking of quick responses to fires

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpCFtm6jwFk&t=7m25s

ROFLBOT fucked around with this message at 12:13 on May 22, 2013

jammyozzy
Dec 7, 2006

Is that a challenge?
911 GT3R driver's eye view lap from this year's Nurburgring 24h, shot just before the thing got red-flagged for hours because of the extreme rain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAvN0EzEacU

It looks like that famous RUF CTR video, but at night and whilst trying to race/lap dozens of other cars. :stare:

*E* Holy balls the other Porsche at 6:45. :staredog:

jammyozzy fucked around with this message at 20:05 on May 22, 2013

Vitamins
May 1, 2012


jammyozzy posted:

911 GT3R driver's eye view lap from this year's Nurburgring 24h, shot just before the thing got red-flagged for hours because of the extreme rain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAvN0EzEacU

It looks like that famous RUF CTR video, but at night and whilst trying to race/lap dozens of other cars. :stare:

*E* Holy balls the other Porsche at 6:45. :staredog:

Oh wow that's terrifying. I have no idea how he could see anything when he was on the straight at 250kmh with the glare from the headlights on the rain.

I also didn't realise the carousel was that bumpy.

Aurune
Jun 17, 2006

Vitamins posted:

I also didn't realise the carousel was that bumpy.

There is a video of Sabine driving some folks around in the ring-taxi. Upon exiting the carousel she comments "You need a good bra here."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSqzRGpD4qA

Anarchist Mae
Nov 5, 2009

by Reene
Lipstick Apathy
Chris Harris on Cars...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10L-WFsVaw0

"Who am I to complain about the design of a gear knob? Look at my beard."

He's becoming land Riker.

Aurune
Jun 17, 2006

2 points... Would have been better if he stuck the landing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vph5vkCwT40&t=47s

Edit: This video also reminds me why I don't read youtube comments.

Aurune fucked around with this message at 22:33 on May 23, 2013

Pokey Araya
Jan 1, 2007

Rectal Placenta posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1o2rpO_JY

Awesome rear end grandpa stops a runaway Detroit.

I hate that the guy who originally was suppose to cover the intake tries for 1 second, and then runs away. At the end he said "It got sucked in!!" when you can see him drop whatever he had to the ground.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

kastein posted:

poo poo :stonk:

That engine needs a rebuild now... see the sparks flying out the exhaust right before he choked it partially? I don't even want to know what those sparks were produced by, seeing as I am reasonably certain that's not a turbocharged DD.

If I had to guess, it's rings, which would also explain why it runs away, it's getting plenty of fuel off the walls of the cylinders on every stroke.

With Detroits, it's always the injector rack being stuck/setup wrong or the governor holding it. The blowers like to leak oil too, and all the other standard diesel kinds of runaway can happen, but it's almost always the fuel rack.
I've never understood why anybody in their right mind would remove the airflaps that most (all?) 2 stroke Detroits had that let you kill any runaway without drama. Hell, if you nearly stall one they can start running backwards, then you're hosed just as much. The flaps were pretty important.

Hypnolobster fucked around with this message at 00:40 on May 24, 2013

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
Yeah, you can bump start the LD/LDS/LDT-465 (white/continental I6 multifuel used in old US military trucks) going backwards by accident too. It's a real trip until you realize all the gears go backwards except the reverse, then you see smoke coming out the intake stack and realize the oil pump is pushing your lube back into the oil pan and it's time to shut it off ASAP.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

Flaming, upside down race cars are the stuff of nightmares

Anarchist Mae
Nov 5, 2009

by Reene
Lipstick Apathy

I want to find the poo poo head with the camera who's right in the way not helping at all, and punch him in the face with his own foot...

If you're not helping, get the gently caress away.

Mighty Horse
Jul 24, 2007

Speed, Class, Bankruptcy.

Hypnolobster posted:

With Detroits, it's always the injector rack being stuck/setup wrong or the governor holding it. The blowers like to leak oil too, and all the other standard diesel kinds of runaway can happen, but it's almost always the fuel rack.
I've never understood why anybody in their right mind would remove the airflaps that most (all?) 2 stroke Detroits had that let you kill any runaway without drama. Hell, if you nearly stall one they can start running backwards, then you're hosed just as much. The flaps were pretty important.

I was just coming here to post this..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NRaqgab0_w

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Deedle
Oct 17, 2011
before you ask, yes I did inform the DMV of my condition and medication, and I passed the medical and psychological evaluation when I got my license. I've passed them every time I have gone to renew my license.
Renault Twin'Run concept, a silhouet racer with a tubular spaceframe and the V6 from a Nissan 350Z in the back. Basically a Twingo with a 320 hp V6 in the boot, or something about the size of DJ Commie's Charade with 320 hp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhCKAGp_SUs

Dutch Autoweek, but most of the video is in sort-of english, it has much more technical information than the above video though.
http://www.autoweek.nl/videoHD/3434/reportage-renault-twinrun

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