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Eren was a violent rear end in a top hat who would randomly attack dudes with sticks. I think Mikasa's situation broke his brain, and the way he resolved it basically taught him that you could solve any problem in the world by hitting it enough.
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Phobophilia posted:Eren was a violent rear end in a top hat who would randomly attack dudes with sticks. I think Mikasa's situation broke his brain, and the way he resolved it basically taught him that you could solve any problem in the world by hitting it enough. Don't you remember episode 6? He's not just some violent rear end in a top hat, he's batshit insane.
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May 22, 2013 00:50
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devilmaydry posted:I don't really get what people's issue with Eren was. He was basically shounen spirit taken to a psychotic extreme and everyone around him thought he was crazy because of it. I found that a lot of fun, personally. That's what I love about it. The main character tries to be Goku, and the titans respond with "gently caress your anime bullshit" and murders him.
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May 22, 2013 00:52
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Mercrom posted:Jojo-spoilers: Neo-Dio. The thing that actually bummed me out about the spoiler was that I was hoping for Dio to return in part 2, but it revealed that he only returns for part 3. devilmaydry posted:Also, why are there JoJo spoilers in a completely unrelated thread? They aren't exactly major spoilers of part 3 but still.
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May 22, 2013 00:55
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Phobophilia posted:Eren was a violent rear end in a top hat who would randomly attack dudes with sticks. I think Mikasa's situation broke his brain, and the way he resolved it basically taught him that you could solve any problem in the world by hitting it enough. That's pretty obviously wrong. Eren knows full well that problems don't just go away when you hit them. That's why you've got to stab their friend, then charge those problems with a makeshift spear and solve them with some more stabbing.
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May 22, 2013 01:32
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Gyges posted:That's pretty obviously wrong. Eren knows full well that problems don't just go away when you hit them. That's why you've got to stab their friend, then charge those problems with a makeshift spear and solve them with some more stabbing. His "kill ALL the titans" career plan does follow that logic.
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May 22, 2013 03:11
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I swear to god I am going to ban everyone who posts spoilers and feels the need to constantly post about spoilers in here. Also, Eren was just legitimately furious about the situation humanity resigned itself to. As a character Eren is a symbol of rebellion against norms and will against the terrible fate that has encompassed humanity. He isn't hugely talented, but he's determined and has ambition. Compare to Mikasa who is extremely talented and skilled, but largely just wants to be with what little family she has. He is similar to Ermin in that both dream of a life outside of the walls and reject and the "givens" of society, but while Ermin is calm and planning, Eren took bold action and relied on his will to get him through things. Turns out, the world he lives isn't quite nice enough to let that fly easily. Zorak fucked around with this message at 03:19 on May 22, 2013 |
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devilmaydry posted:I don't really get what people's issue with Eren was. He was basically shounen spirit taken to a psychotic extreme and everyone around him thought he was crazy because of it. I found that a lot of fun, personally. Edit: I was just as annoyed with Mikasa, since she seemed even more generic, and also pointless. Turns out she's basically a product of Eren's madness and that is amazing. Mercrom fucked around with this message at 04:07 on May 22, 2013 |
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May 22, 2013 03:59
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Eren isn't mad. It's like you lot were never ambitious teenagers who thoughts you were special and wanted to do A Thing before!
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May 22, 2013 04:18
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Zorak posted:Eren isn't mad. It's like you lot were never ambitious teenagers who thoughts you were special and wanted to do A Thing before! I know what it's like to be ambitious and want to be special, but I'm also convinced I spent the entirety of my teenage years in delirium.
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May 22, 2013 04:25
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Teenagers already rebel against imaginary forces out to oppress them and even their parents who have their best interest in mind. Imagine there was a army of human-eating giants to direct that teenage angst towards, if anything Eren is the most realistic of the characters.
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May 22, 2013 04:27
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Schwarzwald posted:I'm also convinced I spent the entirety of my teenage years in delirium. Also known as "being a teenager".
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Zorak posted:I swear to god I am going to ban everyone who posts spoilers and feels the need to constantly post about spoilers in here. I agree with most of this. However, I think Armin's primary roll is as a source of inspiration for Eren. If it weren't for Armin, Eren would never have aspirations about exploring the world beyond the wall. I think Armin plays the roll of a historian or a philosopher; he has no fiery ambition of his own, but he inspires others to help him reach a common goal. The only one Armin could inspire was Eren, and when he got chomped, Armin broke because he had nothing left to live for. I think you're spot on about Mikasa though. She has everything but the ambition to lead her to greatness. She is too humble to aspire for more than what she already has, so her goal is simply to keep those things safe. However, I think that once Eren was gone, the only thing she had left to protect were her friends and colleagues that were trapped with her, so her priority shifted to their safety. Eren is nothing more than raw ambition. He is the concentrated resentment of all of humanity. He is essentially Kamina, but replace the batshit insanity with raw ambition. HE IS THE SWORD THAT WILL PIERCE THE NECKS OF OUR OPPRESSORS! LITERALLY! Or was, unfortunately. I'm really interested in seeing where this story goes now that such a large portion of the main cast is dead or dying or mentally broken. Schwarzwald posted:I know what it's like to be ambitious and want to be special, but I'm also convinced I spent the entirety of my teenage years in delirium. You would definitely have if you lived your life with memories of you friends, family, and neighbors getting chomped by building sized human-like giants. ViggyNash fucked around with this message at 04:55 on May 22, 2013 |
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Zorak posted:Eren isn't mad. It's like you lot were never ambitious teenagers who thoughts you were special and wanted to do A Thing before!
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Mercrom posted:There's being a teenager and then there's tracking and killing two people through careful planning before you are a teenager, and developing a mindset/philosophy from that and following it zealously through the entirety of the rest of your childhood. There is nothing not crazy about Eren. Sounds like someone had a very dull childhood!
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Mercrom posted:There's being a teenager and then there's tracking and killing two people through careful planning before you are a teenager, and developing a mindset/philosophy from that and following it zealously through the entirety of the rest of your childhood. There is nothing not crazy about Eren.
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Even in my most delirious depths of my teenage years I never randomly wacked a bunch of random adults across the back of their heads with a stick of firewood. Let's face it, in a kinder era, adult Eren would be getting drunk in a bar picking fights with strangers.
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I think what people are having trouble reconciling is that Eren isn't just a point and shoot charger, though he definitely has the heart of one. He knew the only way to kill titans was to become a part of the military, and the first thing he asked in class was 'how can we kill these things?' during training. My issue with him is that he is clearly willing and able to kill a fully grown man or two, but when we're introduced to him a group of teenage thugs consider him a joke fight. Either he's willing to hold back to some extent based on how severely someone ticks him off, or he's calmed down immensely since childhood.
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He doesn't want to actually kill the bullies, so he doesn't really fight them. He just lets his anger run wild. In the flashback, his attack was fully premeditated and executed coldly and efficiently. This wasn't wild anger. It was pure vengance. I will admit that such an inexplicably drastic change is beyond strange. There's never really an explanation for it. At the end of the day, the flashback was a mechanism to develop Mikasa's personality and backstory, but it left Eren in an awkward position in terms of his character development. ViggyNash fucked around with this message at 05:52 on May 22, 2013 |
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motoh posted:My issue with him is that he is clearly willing and able to kill a fully grown man or two, but when we're introduced to him a group of teenage thugs consider him a joke fight.
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motoh posted:I think what people are having trouble reconciling is that Eren isn't just a point and shoot charger, though he definitely has the heart of one. He knew the only way to kill titans was to become a part of the military, and the first thing he asked in class was 'how can we kill these things?' during training. Zorak posted:Eren isn't mad. It's like you lot were never ambitious teenagers who thoughts you were special and wanted to do A Thing before! He's very angry, sure, but angry != crazy. Soulcleaver posted:Excuse me, but Eren has never killed any humans. Those were just rabid dogs waiting to get put down.
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Cicero posted:He's very angry, sure, but angry != crazy. Soulcleaver posted:Excuse me, but Eren has never killed any humans. Those were just rabid dogs waiting to get put down. Phobophilia posted:Let's face it, in a kinder era, adult Eren would be getting drunk in a bar picking fights with strangers.
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Mercrom posted:He had time to plan, the element of surprise, So he's Batman? Works for me.
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I actually waited on a friend (who is completely unspoiled and routinely freaks out over chat about the show) to start watching, but she's been busy so I caved. Holy poo poo the sound direction was fantastic, and I had the biggest drat grin on my face when the Angriest Titan punched the other titan--which I'm sure had a lot to do with it. Such a good episode.
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I've never watched much Anime but this is easily the best so far. Besides LotGH. Ofcourse.
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I love this show cause it brings back memories of junior high.
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Housh posted:I love this show cause it brings back memories of junior high. Your junior high had giant man-eating monsters? 
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chami posted:Your junior high had giant man-eating monsters? Yours didn't?
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chami posted:Your junior high had giant man-eating monsters? Y-y-yea 
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chami posted:Your junior high had giant man-eating monsters? They're called 8th graders.
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I just got caught up with this anime (well, just started and then immediately watched the rest), and I can't wait to see what happens next. I guess I could theoretically read the manga to find out, but I've been enjoying the overall experience of the anime enough that I think I'm going to wait to read it until after the animated version finishes. Now, for some speculation.Srice posted:Well, it's mostly the backstory combined with all the other clues. Stuff like Eren getting a mysterious injection would be one hell of a false flag if it were to be never mentioned again. It would be a fake out for the sake of being a fake out, nothing more. It would make the narrative really clumsy. Since it's been handled rather deftly up until now (pacing feels good, the characters feel human and have a lot of good moments where that humanity shows, and we've been spared huge verbose infodumps), that clumsiness isn't something I'd expect. miscellaneous14 posted:One of the things I loved about this one was the Rogue Titan's yell. It was probably one of the main things from the manga I was curious about how they'd portray, and it's perfect. This is what shoved me into thinking yeah, that's Eren. Mostly because it reminded me of "the artificial human, Evangelion". That's what his father's work was, right?  . So now Eren is Unit-01, I guess. We have yet to see how different he is mentally, and I have absolutely no idea where the show is going to go from here. It's wonderful.At this point I'm also wondering if that key from Dr. Jäger is going to pop back up. It's probably gone forever, but the narrative seemed to give it some weight. Even without the key, maybe they'll make an expedition to the ruins of that house sometime, and just (dig out and) kick in the door. If nothing came of that, it would be immensely unsatisfying.
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I think we all agree that CQC Titan is Eren, the real question is, will he remain like that for the rest of the show, or return to normal and hulk it out whenever he needs to kick some titan rear end?
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I would love it if he actually has to be eaten and thus as any sane person refues to do it ever again.
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I can hardly wait until the next episode! When do they release anyway?
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Znorelag posted:I can hardly wait until the next episode! When do they release anyway? https://countdown.mandragon.info Airs about 2am every Sunday, Japan time.
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Autonomous Monster posted:https://countdown.mandragon.info This link really ought to be at the top of the Spring 2013 thread.
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Affi posted:I would love it if he actually has to be eaten and thus as any sane person refues to do it ever again. Your argument falls apart when you imply that Eren is a sane person
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Emy posted:At this point I'm also wondering if that key from Dr. Jäger is going to pop back up. It's probably gone forever, but the narrative seemed to give it some weight. Even without the key, maybe they'll make an expedition to the ruins of that house sometime, and just (dig out and) kick in the door. If nothing came of that, it would be immensely unsatisfying. I completely forgot about that key. It only ever showed up in the first episode right? Eren's dad hands it to him and says its the key to the basement or something similar?
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ViggyNash posted:I completely forgot about that key. It only ever showed up in the first episode right? Eren's dad hands it to him and says its the key to the basement or something similar? It was mentioned again in the beginning of another episode. I forget which one exactly, but I remember it was in the first few minutes of whatever episode it was. IIRC Eren has a dream and you see that he's been keeping the key around his neck. There's definitely something important in that basement, that's for sure.
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Srice posted:There's definitely something important in that basement, that's for sure. WHAT A TWIST!
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