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Voting for A. No mo' beatins, I'm up for dat.
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# ? May 27, 2013 15:49 |
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quote:Your own countrymen are screaming now and your father cuts the edge of his palm with his giant shark tooth and begins to chant, you feel the wind begin to blow... I like the idea of getting out of here, but it appears dad might have a few tricks up his sleeve. We might want to wait to see if the strangers better tech wins over dad's apparent occult power.
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# ? May 27, 2013 15:51 |
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ConfusedPig fucked around with this message at 17:30 on May 27, 2013 |
# ? May 27, 2013 15:56 |
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Walrusmaster posted:I like the idea of getting out of here, but it appears dad might have a few tricks up his sleeve. We might want to wait to see if the strangers better tech wins over dad's apparent occult power. El might also intervene on our behalf!
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# ? May 27, 2013 15:57 |
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Okay, so either: - Our people's coming of age ritual involves cannibalism or - Jalitha is lying But Asherah's creation myth includes "Asherah is loving hungry", and I don't know why she would lie, it would make no sense unless she was an evil caricature. So, whatever. We have too little information. For now, gently caress dad, he's an rear end in a top hat, we gave him a chance. OPTION A. While screaming "Jalitha! Can we save Jorah too?" Because I get the gut feeling that Jorah's anger with our father was over the whole cannibalism issue. He seems like a chill non-cannibal dude. And if we're wrong, well, Jalitha would know, she's been living with him. Also, I think this choice is a stealth reset. It will reset us back into the "A" big city choice (Baitel). I think the game was kinda meant for us to follow that setting after all, and Diog is giving us the chance to go back or something.
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# ? May 27, 2013 15:58 |
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Asherah eats his own children, and some of the people who undergo the solstice ritual never make it back. I feel stupid right now. A. Let's not end up on the menu.
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# ? May 27, 2013 15:58 |
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D As tempting as A and taking on some missionary work sounds, I imagine this path will lead to years of Jalitha and friends trying to convince us that our silly fishgod is nothing more than a magi and a pretender and otherwise not real. And odds are, if Jalitha's people win this, our people are going to be captured and enslaved. We need to get them to safety.
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# ? May 27, 2013 15:59 |
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A mix of A and hold the gate.
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# ? May 27, 2013 16:00 |
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the_steve posted:D ^^This. D Cowards! At least try to save your tribe! Besides, how would Jalitha have ever seen the ritual or know what it contains? We only have her word that we're cannibals, and I don't trust her as far as I can throw her. EDIT: To clarify: Why is it not possible for the cannibalisim to be metaphorical? With the sea 'eating' people who cannot complete a ritual task and end up drowning? There's zero reason to assume literal cannibalisim is happening. FoxTerrier fucked around with this message at 16:18 on May 27, 2013 |
# ? May 27, 2013 16:01 |
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So, we're horrible cannibals, eh? We are what we are.
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# ? May 27, 2013 16:05 |
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quote:Jalith'a precise social status was fuzzy. Your people do not practice slavery insofar as slaves are not bought, sold, traded or taken for crimes, nor is their slavery for debts, your people not really engaging in commerce in any meaningful sense. Jalitha was found half drowned upon the shore a year before your birth. Your father claimed her as his possession in the name of Asherah, to help his newly pregnant wife keep his home clean. No one else in the village has her fuzzy status. quote:You spent some time with your mother. Your mother is as loving as she could manage to be, but is not as warm and affectionate as Jalitha, you still often sleep in your uncles home, though as you have gotten older, not in their bed. quote:She takes the stone knife and begins to cut your hair. You are not afraid. You know she would NEVER hurt you and oh boy, seaweed cakes! She starts to sing strange words as she cuts your hair, they don't sound like words anyone speaks but her song is very pretty. Bolded parts very relevant. We have no other siblings, because our mother is barren. Jalitha is our mother. Bet you our mother miscarried and Dad was banging Jalitha instead. Hence the unhappiness in our mother's marriage to Dad. We are also taller than other kids our age. We look different. Jalitha has been accused of being a witch on numerous times. This song she sang seems to be a ritual, consecration or rite of manhood or something. She knew what a risk she took in doing this ritual, she knew that cutting our hair would not go unnoticed and that our father would likely beat her very severely, he beats her for praying to El after all. So why was it so important to her that she perform this ritual, if she's just our nurse maid? Savages mean nothing to her. quote:Twice a year your father and all the men of the village leave for a week. In the weeks leading up to this, all within the village seem on edge and fearful and the women of the village afraid. The women wait together at the edge of the village on the seventh night and sometimes one of the women lets out a great shriek when she sees her husband has not returned, the other women comfort her as best they can. You have asked your mother what happens to the men and where they go, she tells you that you will know when you are older and not to worry because your father will return. The oldest boys of the village go with them on these trips and return as young men. Sometimes everyone returns, sometimes, just one or two of the men, or even the boys, do not. quote:"All are consumed by Asherah. Those who please Asherah are reborn as great fish. Those who do not, lesser fish who they are consumed by his hunger." Our father will return because he is the priest of Asherah. Asherah, who always hungers. Not a fair stretch to believe that those who do not return are cannibalized. Jalitha has lived for years here, she would have picked up knowledge of this rite of passage from the other women. quote:"Father" you say "I thought I heard a voice within the waters once tell me that a storm was coming. Was that Asherah?" Your father nods "It was, or one of his children. When was this? Did a storm follow?" Asherah is a real god. Jalitha is our real mother. Picking a side is a bad idea. I vote that we move in between both parties, but out of grabbing reach. Try and calm them down, hold our hands out and physically separate them if possible. Then, openly declare that we are STAYING HERE. Go up to Jalitha and whisper in her ear that "We will follow you when we are a man, stay safe mother". Then stay here.
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# ? May 27, 2013 16:12 |
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G What is this violence? Why is everyone so upset? Can't we touch each other with words instead of spears? Say to Jalitha: "Why are they fighting? Make them stop! We are a family. Why do we need rescuing?! I don't understand, Jalitha! Make it stop!"
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# ? May 27, 2013 16:16 |
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A Darker Porpoise posted:Jalitha is going to get the entirety of our people killed, if Dad and Asherah don't take care of this Asherah's people certainly will. Our people are a bunch of backwards troglodytes led by an unstable shithead. The other guys seem pretty chill and have monsters that sprout clay urns full of poison and can drink poison and like it. Is there a contest here? Edit: Did Jalitha wash up on a wave of water or jizz? If it was the later we can assume Asherah may have had a part. Outrail fucked around with this message at 16:25 on May 27, 2013 |
# ? May 27, 2013 16:19 |
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Perhaps dad had a son before us who died and Asherah "provided" another son by washing up Jalitha, possibly already pregnant(was "a year" an estimate?), from the ocean? I like Lanky Coconut Tree's plan. Can I vote for that? Big Bug Hug fucked around with this message at 16:29 on May 27, 2013 |
# ? May 27, 2013 16:24 |
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B, not gonna let them kill everyone we've known for our entire life. I mean, gently caress, you guys want to abandon our people at the drop of a hat and let everyone we know just die, just because our dad beats us? What the hell is wrong with you guys?
Globofglob fucked around with this message at 16:33 on May 27, 2013 |
# ? May 27, 2013 16:29 |
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Let's not get involved in the dispute, but at least get 'our' people to safety, alright?
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# ? May 27, 2013 16:30 |
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Outrail posted:Our people are a bunch of backwards troglodytes led by an unstable shithead. The other guys seem pretty chill and have monsters that sprout clay urns full of poison and can drink poison and like it. Is there a contest here? "Hey uncle Jorah, uncle Pagam, Mom have fun dying peace out! These guys seem real cool!"
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# ? May 27, 2013 16:31 |
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Outrail posted:Our people are a bunch of backwards troglodytes led by an unstable shithead. The other guys seem pretty chill and have monsters that sprout clay urns full of poison and can drink poison and like it. Is there a contest here? Really, cause their life seems sort of utopian to me. No violence except for dad, no hunger, no war. Just because Dad is a shithead doesn't mean we can condemn the village to death. We're next in line and can be a better priest than him.
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# ? May 27, 2013 16:34 |
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A Darker Porpoise posted:"Hey uncle Jorah, uncle Pagam, Mom have fun dying peace out! These guys seem real cool!" But we're backwards savages and these new guys are totes civilized! Besides, trusting explorers has never ended badly for a tribal people, right?? FoxTerrier fucked around with this message at 16:46 on May 27, 2013 |
# ? May 27, 2013 16:37 |
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Diogines posted:oh, this next bit is interesting, you caught this bit "son" "son" she says twice sobbing, pointing at you, you catch the name "Baitel" and "Enkidu". Wait. Wasn't that the story Jalitha told you about the wild savage Enkidu who was tamed by a temple slave? Guys, I think we might be Enkidu's son! Jalitha is Shamhat, and she told us her own story in the third person! We should go with her and clAim our birthright. EDIT: Putting in Canuck's awesome new badge: Pththya-lyi fucked around with this message at 16:47 on May 27, 2013 |
# ? May 27, 2013 16:40 |
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J Ask loudly what a cannibal is and laugh hysterically at the answer.
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# ? May 27, 2013 16:42 |
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I'm torn on a few options, but this seems like the good one to do. At least try to save some of our village if things go down horrible.
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# ? May 27, 2013 16:43 |
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Lanky Coconut Tree posted:Bolded parts very relevant. We have no other siblings, because our mother is barren. Jalitha is our mother. Bet you our mother miscarried and Dad was banging Jalitha instead. Hence the unhappiness in our mother's marriage to Dad. Do this. If one god is good, two gods is better.
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# ? May 27, 2013 16:46 |
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Pochoclo posted:
this version of a . gently caress dad and gently caress this shithole. I'm sure we'll have the chance to swim in the ocean with traveling traders, too.
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# ? May 27, 2013 16:51 |
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Option A
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# ? May 27, 2013 16:57 |
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I think we need to get everyone to chill the gently caress out. Changed my vote to D. Deadly Ham Sandwich fucked around with this message at 00:39 on May 28, 2013 |
# ? May 27, 2013 17:06 |
J, plan Lanky Coconut Tree. It might not work, but at least it doesn't betray anyone close to us. And we need more time to learn Asherah priest powers.
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# ? May 27, 2013 17:14 |
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Yeah, not voting to abandon our village, our people, our family, particularly after we've just been impressed by Dad's lessons and the importance of learning Asherah's rituals, just because some new dudes have shown up and Jalitha's started freaking out and shouting gibberish. Do we know what 'Cannibals' means? Is it necessarily a problem if we do? Maybe it is part of Asherah's rituals, but we don't know, we don't know how. Sometimes everyone returns safe from the mystery rituals, so it doesn't seem like our village is secretly bringing up children as a succulent buffet, more, perhaps, that people who die in the ritual get eaten ritualistically, or something. We don't even go about eating people indiscriminately, as we know burial at sea is a big deal (don't we? I think that was in an update, but maybe that was just speculation). Anyway, I see no reason why we'd just decide to gently caress everything we know and head off with Jalitha, just 'cause she says so. I don't really want to run away, as I want to see what Dad's got up his sleeve, but fighting doesn't seem like a super idea, especially not with our hands, and running off to get a spear still leads to us running off. I do think getting a spear and being willing to fight would raise our status amongst our people, and even if we lose, I don't think the invaders will try and kill us, a child whom Jalitha seems so fond of. Still, the best plan might be B; we're certainly going to be overwhelmed as is if Dad doesn't have a solution in hand. Running off and getting the women and children to run won't accomplish anything in the long term, I don't think, and lumps us firmly in with the other kids running for safety. Going to get other men could help bolster our defenses, and demonstrates a proactive sensibility on our part. It may get more chaotic, but if things do devolve into a fight, at least we'll be better set up. Additionally, going to get the other men could include finding Jorah, who, if anyone will, seems best positioned to diffuse this situation; he surely has Jalitha's good will, can likely speak the language better than Dad or us, is level headed but still, I think, loyal to the village, and is big and strong. So yeah, voting Changed my vote to Not-A later on. Theglavwen fucked around with this message at 22:31 on May 27, 2013 |
# ? May 27, 2013 17:26 |
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Lanky Coconut Tree posted:Bolded parts very relevant. We have no other siblings, because our mother is barren. Jalitha is our mother. Bet you our mother miscarried and Dad was banging Jalitha instead. Hence the unhappiness in our mother's marriage to Dad. +1 for plan Lanky Coconut Tree
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# ? May 27, 2013 17:31 |
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D
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# ? May 27, 2013 17:33 |
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I agree with Lanky Coconut Tree's plan. Think of how this game was pitched - it has the potential to grow into epic conflict between mortals and gods. Just staying in the village forever hardly seems to give much chance for divine conflict. Handling this delicately will let us plant the seed of adventure: as we grow older, we are going to start to wonder about our true past, and seek out our mother to do it. Yes, it would mean rejecting the training and goals of our father, but I feel that after this event, our character is likely going to have his whole perspective on the world called into question anyway. Everything that happens to him afterword will be questioned. "This is normal... or is it? Would my mother's people see it as normal? What should I do, since I am half of each people?" Adolescence is a time when kids are trying to figure out who the hell they are anyway. Perhaps we stay and get to do the coming of age ceremony, and find out Jalitha was right about the cannibalism thing! That would be a great point to make a break for the north and start our epic journey.
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# ? May 27, 2013 17:35 |
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Diogines posted:Your own countrymen are screaming now and your father cuts the edge of his palm with his giant shark tooth and begins to chant, you feel the wind begin to blow... Voting we try to tell the empty-handed outsider to stay calm, but stay back. There is some sort of misunderstanding here, but we will try to mediate as best as possible as son of the village leader and possibly Jalitha. We're not going anywhere until we know what, exactly, is going on. If dad is summoning the wrath of Ashera I'd prefer we weren't siding with the outsiders when it comes down on them, but I'd also like to hear them out and try to come to a peaceful resolution. Edit: changed my vote. A Terrible Person fucked around with this message at 22:44 on May 27, 2013 |
# ? May 27, 2013 17:48 |
Theglavwen posted:Do we know what 'Cannibals' means? You know what it means. She did not scream the word "cannibals" three times, but it was mixed among other words you did not know. Neither your tribe or the strangers speak English, so we are approximating. No one in your village has ever discussed the ethics of eating people, if it is good or bad. Did anyone ever have a sit down with you about cannibalism as a kid? Perhaps you heard about it in stories, but I suspect some of us never even heard those stories. You did not, from anyone except Jalitha. Your entire frame of reference from the concept of eating people, comes from Jalitha. In the stories you grew up hearing from her, cannibals were a common theme. They exist at the edge of the world and try to eat women and little children and are usually stopped JUST in the nick of time by Sky Giants or men who are heroes or who become heroes.
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# ? May 27, 2013 17:49 |
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Yup, that sounds like us! Changed my mind, haul ss out of there!
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# ? May 27, 2013 17:58 |
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Best option seems to be C. This way we're not picking any sides, and the winners of the fight can come find us after they're done killing eachother.
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# ? May 27, 2013 18:04 |
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Diogines posted:Your entire frame of reference from the concept of eating people, comes from Jalitha. In the stories you grew up hearing from her, cannibals were a common theme. They exist at the edge of the world and try to eat women and little children and are usually stopped JUST in the nick of time by Sky Giants or men who are heroes or who become heroes. Hm, I wonder then if Jalitha even has any real reason to suspect cannibalism as actually occuring. She might just be calling us cannibals, or assuming that we are, because we're 'barbarians that live at the edge of the world'. She might just be lumping us in with 'evil people whom the Sky Giants stop'. I mean, maybe Jorah has told her about the secret male rituals during which corpses are devoured, but that seems a little far-fetched. If it's something that is pretty much never discussed or brought up at all in village life (I know we don't spend a lot of time around people, but I imagine we'd at least hear rumours, and even Jalitha has never mentioned anything to us in our time alone), then it must be a pretty big secret; why would Jorah just decide to start confiding in her?
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# ? May 27, 2013 18:09 |
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We don't have any solid information, and we're in a chaotic situation and all hell is gonna break loose. No matter what we pick, we're hosed. It's not about picking the "right thing". It's about surviving, for now.
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# ? May 27, 2013 18:11 |
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Changed vote
Space Kablooey fucked around with this message at 20:54 on May 27, 2013 |
# ? May 27, 2013 18:15 |
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I was sick of this village anyways - A
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# ? May 27, 2013 18:15 |
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A
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