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Voting for E, but without being rude. Like "Thank you, but I really like who I am now and want to keep my name and hair the way it is."
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May 30, 2013 01:00
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I already voted but to clarify I want to accept the naming and haircutting so that we can get in tight with this badass jerk king and stab him in the back once we've got what we need from him.
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May 30, 2013 01:01
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B The one who has comforted us all our life continues to comfort us in the aftermath of the terrible battle. So many revelations, so much new information to grapple with for a boy raised in the unchanging way of the people on the beach. From this awe-inspiring monarch we have had praise and an affirmation that El and the other giants are guardians and allies. We believed in the Giants and in the Great Fish, but it seems like Asherah is only to be appeased, whereas El and his family bring aid and comfort to people. We are traumatized, but clever, bereft of one parental figure but wrapped up in a mother's love and surrounded by men of great presence. Our mother tells us we are being honored, cleansed, restored. I believe we wish very much to be cleansed of the pain and the horror of what we've just seen. Let us do this thing which delights our mother and the king.
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May 30, 2013 01:04
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B... I can't figure out how to post the icons from a mobile.  Given the revelation about cannibalism and our ignorance of it being called 'sweetling' all the time is a bit creepy. I don't think the hair is what we think it is to Asherah. Bloooood is. We were bleeding when the sea spoke and our hair was already cut. Dad was bleeding when he called lightning. (We will always regret not tasting a bit of Dad! What were we thinking!?!) We will have many names and be known in different places by many appellations! Og is just the first and it will not go away. We will be Og of the Many Names. Og will be buried and lost and our secret name of power! (Particularly once they go back and slay our entire village.). Hope we don't have to end up killing New Mom to keep it a secret. That would be a shame. I vote B, with words of thanks and beginnings. Jorah is almost certainly coming. I would ask Jalitha about this. I want to know does she love him? Will she try to get him killed? Will she try to convert him? What is her plan? She must have considered it. Or maybe it is just pretty stories to her? And grandad's name. We want to know it. Who was he, if she won't talk about New Dad. We should also take some time to grieve Old Dad and we should pray to Asherah in whatever secret way we know to protect our village. Mind gently caress though it is for us, we should also pray to El for this, as we have done in the past. Sogol fucked around with this message at 01:38 on May 30, 2013 |
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May 30, 2013 01:04
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B Also ask mom if Uncle Jorah was a canibal
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May 30, 2013 01:05
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Diogines posted:This is a statement, not a question. Weigh in if you want to say this, folks. I'm all for making the statement about cutting our hair, but don't mention Asherah.
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May 30, 2013 01:06
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Incidentally, here's the vote icon album if anyone lost the link. It just makes it a little easier to pick out the votes.
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May 30, 2013 01:06
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HiHo ChiRho posted:I'm all for making the statement about cutting our hair, but don't mention Asherah. Seconded.
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May 30, 2013 01:08
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 changed from A."Why did you cut my hair despite knowing that doing so would cause huge problems for us?" e: If i can't loophole finding out why she cut our hair by formulating it through a question then ignore it. ConfusedPig fucked around with this message at 01:19 on May 30, 2013 |
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May 30, 2013 01:09
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Yeah, Changed from A. edit: Also, will we be near the sea where we are going? Asking Jalitha.
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May 30, 2013 01:09
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May 30, 2013 01:12
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Diogines posted:This is a statement, not a question. Weigh in if you want to say this, folks. Yeah, I'm up for asking that. To all those who do want to go placidly for the hair-cut (and it certainly seems like we might be heading for it whether we want to or not), I encourage you to remember that it means fully rejecting our past, and any hope of rescue; even if we do get a chance to escape, or get rescued by Jorah or Pagem or whatnot, with our hair cut there's no way they'd take us back, or that we could go back. Allowing our hair to be cut without qualm means that you've decided the character rejects Asherah and those he's known as his people and family, based pretty solely on Jalitha's statements. That might be fine, but I hope you've got a good idea of the kid's character in mind, to reconcile his previously established belief and dedication to Asherah, his stories and principles, and the ocean, with his now apparent willingness to completely disregard it all and go along with King Handsome. Could be scared, could be oddly cunning and long-term planning, could be entirely convinced by Jalitha's stories and antagonistic towards his people, could be weak-willed and easily led, whatever.
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May 30, 2013 01:25
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Welp, time to turn our back on everything we knew and start a new life. A
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May 30, 2013 01:25
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C - as politely as we can manage. Ask Jalitha what will happen to the other villagers, namely our "mom" and uncle Jorah.
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May 30, 2013 01:27
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I'm sorry but E WE ARE OG
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May 30, 2013 01:27
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Theglavwen posted:Yeah, I'm up for asking that. Yeah, I'm not really sure I'm liking the way this character is going. Placidly accepting this guy that just murdered our father and two of the only people we know as our king and letting him E
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May 30, 2013 01:30
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Going with B. Og is a dumb name and we should thank him for giving us a better one.
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May 30, 2013 01:35
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Other: Choose another name for ourselves. Beaky
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May 30, 2013 01:35
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Bularin posted:Because Jalitha will translate this word for word, and the mighty king will strike down the traumatized child. And Jalitha will totally just stand there and let that happen. Theglavwen posted:I'm constantly amazed at how rabid people get over this stuff. Hahaha. I called the people voting for maxhush's option stupid because it was loving stupid, not because I have some special spergy attachment to this game. Take your self-righteous internet indignation and gently caress off. Oh and B.
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May 30, 2013 01:40
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"Jali-... mother. Is Jorah, Pagem or another from Athar going to come get me?"
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May 30, 2013 01:42
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paragon1 posted:Hahaha. I called the people voting for maxhush's option stupid because it was loving stupid, not because I have some special spergy attachment to this game. Take your self-righteous internet indignation and gently caress off. You've got a weird sense of 'indignation', I'm hardly indignant that some people are driven to disparage other posters based on how they want to play the game, I'm flabbergasted. That being said, 'stupid' implies a goal, some metric by which its effectiveness can be praised or demeaned, so it only makes sense to call the option 'stupid' if you've decided that one direction or outcome is the 'smart' or correct one. Unless you honestly think that presenting theological confusion at best, or calling our kidnappers a bad name at worst, would lead to the King striking the head off of an 11 year old kid he just saved, and ending the game, that comes down to a value choice on a certain direction. So maybe, again, chill out and accept that other people like to play the game differently than you do. Dickwad.
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May 30, 2013 01:56
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Mother, how did you end up in the village?
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May 30, 2013 01:58
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I am totally indignant! I don't have one dignant left! I remember my first trip to the barber shop. Traumatizing! Horrific! I have completely lost all sense of perspective and am reliving this trauma again and again in this game!!! Make it stop! Make it stop!!!! Edit: I should add that Diogenes has done specific things very well, having to do with frame and such, to elicit exactly what you are complaining about. He should take your whinging as a great compliment given how young the game is. Sogol fucked around with this message at 02:11 on May 30, 2013 |
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May 30, 2013 02:00
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Theglavwen posted:Allowing our hair to be cut without qualm means that you've decided the character rejects Asherah and those he's known as his people and family, based pretty solely on Jalitha's statements. That might be fine, but I hope you've got a good idea of the kid's character in mind, to reconcile his previously established belief and dedication to Asherah, his stories and principles, and the ocean, with his now apparent willingness to completely disregard it all and go along with King Handsome. Meanwhile, these outsiders are offering us real escape, have better powers and all sorts of cool stuff we never dreamed of, and they're reassuring us that we're just as special as we always knew we were. And holy poo poo, Jalitha's our mom?! Somehow deep down, we always knew it. It feels right to run to her when we're scared. But most of all, I think everything's feeling very surreal for Og right now. He's in shock, and that makes him more suggestible and malleable than he'd be in more stable circumstances.
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May 30, 2013 02:05
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Um, I'm Og. I've always been Og. If I get a new name, can I still be Og as well? You said El's god. What do you mean? Is he like Asherah?
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May 30, 2013 02:08
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Theglavwen posted:D: I wish now we'd asked what the importance of the hair was, but we had it drilled in pretty hard that hair cutting = bad, I think we'd be hanging on to that impression for at least a while. Don't freak out or anything, but object to it. I DID ask. TWICE. But my questions were missed or ignored.
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May 30, 2013 02:19
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Theglavwen posted:Unless you honestly think that presenting theological confusion at best, or calling our kidnappers a bad name at worst, would lead to the King striking the head off of an 11 year old kid he just saved, and ending the game, that comes down to a value choice on a certain direction. Yes. While Diog didn't say that it would lead to instant death, it would have lead to serious consequences. It was warned enough to have him quote the op: Diogines posted:A question, so I understand your response. I am not sure why people are thinking maxhush's response was harmless enough to carry on with the game normally. It was one of the few options to have been described by the GM as on that potentially lead us to a confrontation we weren't prepared for, not even a week into the game. There were other ways to make the same statement without the intentional provoking, but that was not what was voted for.
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May 30, 2013 02:29
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I dunno, before Diog spoke up I was pretty certain the response would be a hearty laugh and a tussling of our hair. Maybe this guy is a little touchy about what eleven year olds say to him.
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May 30, 2013 02:34
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OK. I strongly suspect El is going to be a dick. Much more than Asherah, the occasionally cruel but always straightforward force of nature. I also feel our #1 long term loyalty should be to the fish god and our tribe. That being said. I don't think there's any way we're going to get out of this without a hair cut. The king will not accept out heathenisim. Jalitha won't let us avoid it either; if she was willing to chop our hair off when success may well have meant our death or exile, she's not doing to step back here. And nobody is going to be able to rescue us while the king is around. So:  We thank the king and let him change our name/cut our hair. But we hold Asherah in our heart where the king cannot see him.Also voting to insist Jalitha to stop calling us sweetling, x1000. EDIT: For the record, I still think Jalitha is full of poo poo about the cannibal thing.  EDIT EDIT: Actually, I think I changed A enough that it counts as a new one. So changing this to F. FoxTerrier fucked around with this message at 03:01 on May 30, 2013 |
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May 30, 2013 02:39
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Voting B - these people seem better than the beatdown cannibals.
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May 30, 2013 02:40
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Voting C. Let him cut our hair, but noone's giving us a name until we want one. If he want's the right to give us a name he's got to earn it. Not just because he or someone else says we do. Then we should shave our head at a later point. Reject all gods.
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May 30, 2013 02:40
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HiHo ChiRho posted:Yes. While Diog didn't say that it would lead to instant death, it would have lead to serious consequences. It was warned enough to have him quote the op: Nah, Diogenes is just very meticulous on making sure people know when they're voting for events that might have significant responses. Whether or not the response ends up being exceedingly minor, or game-ending, there's often a "Are you sure you want to say this possibly emotionally charged statement" warning when votes start going that way. Not saying he necessarily wouldn't have turned into a raging, child beheading monstrosity at the merest hint that we think he might be a monster. Maybe he would have, or maybe it would have kept him from making us his son and law, and made us take another path. I think it would be folly, though, to start taking Diogenes' comments as suggestions on the right or wrong way to do things, he tries to avoid that, from what I've seen.
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May 30, 2013 02:42
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Voting against the whole sweetling thing, that can come when she tells us who our real dad is.
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May 30, 2013 02:42
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Hot Dog Day 80 posted:Mother, how did you end up in the village? Oh good question. How did you end up in the village? Is our father not from the village?
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May 30, 2013 02:42
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Theglavwen posted:You've got a weird sense of 'indignation', I'm hardly indignant that some people are driven to disparage other posters based on how they want to play the game, I'm flabbergasted. I think the goal and direction of most games is for the player character to at least survive, and hopefully thrive. Do you not think that having Og insult the man who just now killed our alleged father and is a King might just be a bad idea? You stupid rear end in a top hat.
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May 30, 2013 02:45
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I don't think Tudiya felt that us as 11 years old would be threatening, but saying something like that and living with/near the king in his realm until we were at an age to take revenge would have been foolish on his part. We chose to believe in El alongside Asherah anyway. I doubt we would have cut our hair while living with our dad to appease El, so I'm not inclined to worry about having our hair cut now to fit in the society we are going to live with now.
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May 30, 2013 02:47
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JT Jag posted:For the record, people who want to retain our spiritual identity, there's no way we get out of this without getting our hair cut. It's just not going to happen. D. We know Asherah is real. We won't abandon our beliefs.
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May 30, 2013 02:50
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Who says we need to abandon Asherah if we thank the dude? Might as well be polite and try not to piss off the King.
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May 30, 2013 02:58
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FoxTerrier posted:OK. I strongly suspect El is going to be a dick. Much more than Asherah, the occasionally cruel but always straightforward force of nature. I also feel our #1 long term loyalty should be to the fish god and our tribe. I really like Foxterrier's take on B/A.
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May 30, 2013 03:00
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 Let's not give up our whole identity. Plus we've had this name for 11 years, giving it up would be weird.
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