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Who Killed WCW?
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Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Snacksmaniac posted:

The Chamber of Horrors match was so great because the lever kept falling. And Foley's face when he goes to pull it is hilarious.

Foley trying to be stealthy while climbing the cage to fix the fallen lever is one of the funniest wrestling moments of all time.

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Tato
Jun 19, 2001

DIRECTIVE 236: Promote pro-social values
The TNA Last Rites match is hilarious, the only negative is that they didn't go all the way with it. They should have dimmed the lights, played a casette tape of spooky Halloween noises, had sheet ghosts pop out of the turnbuckles, made Sting put his hand in a bowl of Dracula's brains, etc.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?
Where is the cage match with the Allience to End Hulkamania?

nasboat
Sep 9, 2004

bobkatt013 posted:

Where is the cage match with the Allience to End Hulkamania?

Currently, it's in my nightmares.

Snacksmaniac
Jan 12, 2008

The Chamber of Horrors is quite the hot opener.

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

triplexpac posted:

Wasn't she married to Rodman at that time? Maybe this was some sort of angle to bring her in with him or something?

I have no idea, I'm grasping at straws for a way to link her with WCW
That's actually exactly right. Macho brought it up before his match with Rodman at Road Wild, long after everybody else had moved on.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

nasboat posted:

Currently, it's in my nightmares.

Never forget and hope that they bring it back with the Allience to End Cenamania.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

bobkatt013 posted:

Where is the cage match with the Allience to End Hulkamania?
The Doomsday Cage made the Bleacher Report article. I have a soft spot for Kevin Sullivan, but geez, 1994-1996 he got to treat WCW like it was his Dungeons & Dragons game.

Numero6
Oct 10, 2012

ここは地の果て 流されて俺
今日もさすらい 涙も涸れる
ブルーゲイル

Halloween Jack posted:

The Doomsday Cage made the Bleacher Report article. I have a soft spot for Kevin Sullivan, but geez, 1994-1996 he got to treat WCW like it was his Dungeons & Dragons game.
Now I'm sad that we never had a pro-wrestling Beholder.


The 49ers match will be always remembered just for this moment:

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

I still can't watch that moment without grinning like an idiot. Booker's reaction is just priceless.

Z-Magic
Feb 19, 2011

They talk about the people and the proletariat, I talk about the suckers and the mugs - it's the same thing. They have their five-year plans, so have I.
The Dark Canival match from early TNA was great. ISP vs Kid Kash, Glen Gilberti and a third person whom I forget. Was a standard plunder match only every now and then the lights would dim and ISP would start playing over the speakers.

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Insane Sandow Posse.

Punch McLightning
Sep 19, 2005

you know what that means




Grimey Drawer
I'd listen to his debut single, "The Gordian Knot."

Shiki Dan
Oct 27, 2010

If ya can move ya toes ya back's fine

Halloween Jack posted:

Piñata on a Pole Match (Luchadores vs. Vince Russo's racism)


There were way more asinine :russo: pole matches in WCW than that, albeit lacking the blatant racism:
--Paternity Test on a Pole match
--Judy Bagwell on a Pole match
--Viagra on a Pole match

disaster pastor
May 1, 2007


Halloween Jack posted:

Hog Pen Match (Triple H vs. Henry Godwinn)

Actually, this is a decent match.

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

Shiki Dan posted:

There were way more asinine :russo: pole matches in WCW than that, albeit lacking the blatant racism:
--Paternity Test on a Pole match
--Judy Bagwell on a Pole match
--Viagra on a Pole match

Shark Cage Key on a pole is another gem

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Forget Brock Lesnar. HHH's greatest adversary was a hog farmer. That was a great match at the time.

Lonely Rolling Star
Mar 20, 2009

Better than a crowbar.
I seem to remember sometime in '99 or 2000 that WCW did some kind of 'Fight Club' match, where the point was to 'so the most damage' or some nebulous criteria. I wasn't actively watching at the time (I actually haven't watched wrestling since '93 or so), and I just happened to catch the match while my father was watching it. I vaguely remember a guy beating another guy inside a boiler room or something. And the announcers kept saying it wasn't about winning, but about doing the most damage. I have no idea how it ended, or if it even did. So am I remembering correctly as this being an actual thing that happened? And if so, why? Who thought that poo poo would be a good idea?

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

It was a reoccurring thing where Jerry Flynn (not to be confused with Jerry Lynn) would set up shop in the boiler room and fight whoever showed up. I want to say it ended when Meng answered the challenge and demolished him, but I'm probably off.

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

DeathChicken posted:

It was a reoccurring thing where Jerry Flynn (not to be confused with Jerry Lynn) would set up shop in the boiler room and fight whoever showed up. I want to say it ended when Meng answered the challenge and demolished him, but I'm probably off.

He lost a couple times, once when The Wall fought without honor and Berlyn interfered (this was part of them turning on each other because The Wall wanted to fight with honor), and once to Tank Abbott. The Block lasted about 2 magical months because Russo had a thing for pushing people with any kind of shoot fighting experience. Once Tank Abbott was brought in he had a new favorite toy and jobbed Lynn out to Tank week after week for a couple months.

Thankfully WWE.com realizes how amazing The Block was http://www.wwe.com/videos/jerry-flynn-vs-norman-smiley-the-block-match-nitro-dec-13-1999-26112912

cool-haired luke
May 13, 2012

by T. Finninho

Numero6 posted:

Now I'm sad that we never had a pro-wrestling Beholder.


The 49ers match will be always remembered just for this moment:


wow ive never seen that pic before

The American Dream
Mar 1, 2007
Don't Forget My Balls
The second best of nitro blu ray is down to $15 at amazon. Less then a month away from the War Games Anthology!

Hedgehog Pie
May 19, 2012

Total fuckin' silence.
To alleviate the exam season a little bit, I've been watching some random Nitro shows now and then. The last I watched was from early '98, where during a Goldberg match either Brain, Tony or Larry say something to the effect of, "It's as if the fans are getting behind this guy because he's winning matches!". Some might say that's logic that WWE could learn from today... or mayb vince is doing it deliberately to prove wcw wrong :v:

EDIT: The above episode, from towards the start of his "going completely mental" heel turn, has what is probably now my favourite Scott Steiner quote: "I hate referees! They're incompetent and they're stupid!".

I get another kind of enjoyment out of watching Russo-era shows though and I was wondering if there any in particular that are just so ridiculous that watching them becomes essential for the campy wrestling fan. I last watched the one from after Spring Stampede '00, which wasn't a terrible show (I guess?) though it did have a right doozy of an opening segment where the highlights involved Russo and Jarrett taking time to each tell Jim Ross to kiss their asses, and so many balloons being dropped that the sound of the crowd popping them all actually drowns out the New Blood promos going on in the ring.

Also, the Hulkster put Billy Kidman into a dumpster.

Hedgehog Pie fucked around with this message at 19:02 on May 31, 2013

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
Give me a "Best of The Block" DVD set complete with Jerry Flynn commentary and interviews

I originally typed that as "Jerry Lynn commentary", and decided I would also like that. A bewildered Jerry Lynn, unsure why they want him to do commentary over some Jerry Flyyn WCW action.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Hedgehog Pie posted:

To alleviate the exam season a little bit, I've been watching some random Nitro shows now and then. The last I watched was from early '98, where during a Goldberg match either Brain, Tony or Larry say something to the effect of, "It's as if the fans are getting behind this guy because he's winning matches!". Some might say that's logic that WWE could learn from today... or mayb vince is doing it deliberately to prove wcw wrong :v:

I get another kind of enjoyment out of watching Russo-era shows though and I was wondering if there any in particular that are just so ridiculous that watching them becomes essential for the campy wrestling fan. I last watched the one from after Spring Stampede '00, which wasn't a terrible show (I guess?) though it did have a right doozy of an opening segment where the highlights involved Russo and Jarrett taking time to each tell Jim Ross to kiss their asses, and so many balloons being dropped that the sound of the crowd popping them all actually drowns out the New Blood promos going on in the ring.

Also, the Hulkster put Billy Kidman into a dumpster.

I'd consider the January 4, 1999 show to be pretty much essential viewing. It was the beginning of the end, really.

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Oct 30, 2009

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Try to track down the show where Nash impersonates Vince McMahon.

e: see if this works
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1evvk_kevin-nash-on-nitro-october-1999-pr_sport#.UajjZ1L5Bkg

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

Old Age Outlaws.

Someone said this out loud and decided it was good enough idea to run with.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?
All of the funerals that Buff and Luger did. There were a bunch and they all went on forever.

cool-haired luke
May 13, 2012

by T. Finninho

coconono posted:

Old Age Outlaws.

Someone said this out loud and decided it was good enough idea to run with.

how many old age outlaws were there? i remember funk and snuka but im sure there were others. tito maybe?

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

cool-haired luke posted:

how many old age outlaws were there? i remember funk and snuka but im sure there were others. tito maybe?

It was Mr. Perfect, Terry Funk, Arn Anderson, and Larry Zbyszko

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


cool-haired luke posted:

how many old age outlaws were there? i remember funk and snuka but im sure there were others. tito maybe?

Orndorff was one of them, I believe.

Mons Hubris
Aug 29, 2004

fanci flup :)


Old-Age In-Laws would have been the much better play.

TERRY FUNK AND JIMMY SNUKA ARE YOUR WIFE'S GAY-MARRIED FATHERS

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.
According to an episode of The Old School Wrestling Podcast Larry Zbyszko claimed on a radio interview that he was the face of WCW in the late 90's.

Zbyszko.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
That would explain why the company failed then, because Zbysko was never any good. At anything.

Cactus Jack
Nov 16, 2005

If you even try to throw to my side of the field in a dream, you better wake up and apologize.

El Gallinero Gros posted:

That would explain why the company failed then, because Zbysko was never any good. At anything.

He was really good at making a career out of his one big angle. He truly is the Master of Human Chess.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Cactus Jack posted:

He was really good at making a career out of one his big angle. He truly is the Master of Human Chess.

He was the master of keeping a feud going after the person he was feuding with died

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

bobkatt013 posted:

He was the master of keeping a feud going after the person he was feuding with died

I feel like that didn't get enough love that year for most disgusting promotional tactic, but it's possible that Zbysko just thought it was a good idea t the time to try and preserve kayfabe.

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

DrVenkman posted:

According to an episode of The Old School Wrestling Podcast Larry Zbyszko claimed on a radio interview that he was the face of WCW in the late 90's.

Zbyszko.

When he was doing commentary he would often turn around to face the crowd just to get people to cheer him.

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


Yeah Larry Z was bad at a lot of things, but WCW crowds loved him.

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Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



Not WCW, but here is the worst cage match ever (the goal is to be the first one out of the cage! Out of a cage that's barely big enough for for one man :psyduck:):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVaTRP0-ud0


And I unabashedly loved Larry Zbyszko. I miss the day of old school heels like him, Tully Blanchard, Gino Hernandez, etc. It just seems to me that too many heels today seem more concerned with getting the crowd behind them than against them. I can understand that sentiment from their point of view, I guess. If they succeed in making the crowd absolutely despise them, then that's seriously going to cut into their merchandise sales, and who would want to lose such a lucrative income stream?

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