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block51
Jun 18, 2002

Ghetto? Yes, But I still shop there.

ManifunkDestiny posted:

Apparently China has a response to the upcoming Disney movie, Planes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFCt_HKnuQE&feature=player_embedded


Subtle

Wow, this was pretty drat entertaining. "Sidewinder". GET IT?!? Ha.

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Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

block51 posted:

Wow, this was pretty drat entertaining. "Sidewinder". GET IT?!? Ha.

I like how the Sukhoi Cobra-flipped down out of the way.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

block51 posted:

Wow, this was pretty drat entertaining. "Sidewinder". GET IT?!? Ha.

I want to see a A380 painted like a killer whale now.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

ManifunkDestiny posted:

Apparently China has a response to the upcoming Disney movie, Planes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFCt_HKnuQE&feature=player_embedded


Subtle

This is fantastic.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

ManifunkDestiny posted:

Apparently China has a response to the upcoming Disney movie, Planes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFCt_HKnuQE&feature=player_embedded


Subtle

A: Amazing.

B: I will never be able to see video of a tanker ever again without hearing it moo with pleasure when the receivers disconnect, in my head.

C: Most importantly; Why the gently caress haven't we been painting our F-22s like that?

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
The real hilarity is when you read the youtube comments on any video featuring the Chengdu J-20.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Blistex posted:

The real hilarity is when you read the youtube comments on any video featuring the Chengdu J-20.

It's the second coming, and the F-22 stands no chance, ya, got it.

Colonel K
Jun 29, 2009
I'll leave this here. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fcd_1370222773 1960's aerobatics.

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice
The cause of the Bagram 747 crash has been confirmed by investigators on the scene to be the facture of tie-downs on heavy vehicles, leading to a load shift and the center of gravity moving out of the controllable range. Simple, stupid, sad.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
That first comment makes me so angry. loving stupid people.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




There is a ton of stupid on that page, so you're going to have to post the stupid coment that made you angry.

Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.
I'm going to assume it was the "Computers BAD, if only some infallible human had loaded the palates correctly and some other infallible human had been piloting and used MAX POWER instead of trying for efficiency this wouldn't have happened." One.

It makes my brain hurt.

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

Yeah pilots typically use 60% thrust for takeoff and save the other 40% for emergencies right?

E: I think standard procedure on some airlines is to shut off 2 engines for short hops.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
:psyboom:

quote:

Thanks, FAA! You are a bit late for the seven souls lost with that 744. MY concern is that typical pax/baggage/freight flights are loaded by computer model, rarely direct weights. May of the average norms are wrong (let's start with average pax weight) and I suspect that many very ordinary flights takeoff well overweight. If the pilots routinely used MAX thrust, they would enjoy a comfortable fudge factor. They don't, usually using FLEX-POWER or similar, to save fuel and early engine maintenance. The smart pilots add a bit of extra thrust just as they carry a bit more fuel than the absolute minimum, even if they have to do a Carpet Dance every year. I see that Perfect Storm brewing... For the smart pilot, it really boils down to this: If you want to taxi at high speed, go for it and leave plenty of room to stop; I you intend to FLY, do it and climb to a safe altitude as quickly as possible.
Just my two cents...

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
This just reinforces my theory that people frequently conflate technical specialist skills (engineering, pilots, etc) with actually being intelligent or thoughtful.

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

This just reinforces my theory that people frequently conflate technical specialist skills (engineering, pilots, etc) with actually being intelligent or thoughtful.

For all we know that guy might just be a Freep 2.0 Airliners.net forums reader, or worse an avid flight simmer (I've been "lectured" by simmers as to how I should be doing my job before because i certainly don't know anything about flying :rolleye:). Clearly this guy thinks he's an expert...

...which he clearly isn't. For one, "FLEX takeoff" is a term unique to Airbus (and Fokker I think); Boeing calls a derated takeoff something different...probably "derated takeoff".

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Well the guy demonstrates a basic ability to (incorrectly) grasp what terms mean. Regardless, he knows enough to be an idiot.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal
Would max thrust have made any difference?

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

CharlesM posted:

Would max thrust have made any difference?

It would've made the problem happen that much faster. The moron that wrote that comment cannot comprehend simple physics. A dramatic CG change isn't corrected by more thrust.

monkeytennis
Apr 26, 2007


Toilet Rascal

Colonel K posted:

I'll leave this here. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fcd_1370222773 1960's aerobatics.

Brilliant. :britain:

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

MrChips posted:

For all we know that guy might just be a Freep 2.0 Airliners.net forums reader, or worse an avid flight simmer (I've been "lectured" by simmers as to how I should be doing my job before because i certainly don't know anything about flying :rolleye:). Clearly this guy thinks he's an expert...

...which he clearly isn't. For one, "FLEX takeoff" is a term unique to Airbus (and Fokker I think); Boeing calls a derated takeoff something different...probably "derated takeoff".

Yeah, you're right that he's not necessarily any sort of technical expert. I had the extreme displeasure of the engineering staff across the cube from me having a discussion about how Seatbelts Are Dumb for 25 minutes yesterday.

ausgezeichnet
Sep 18, 2005

In my country this is definitely not offensive!
Nap Ghost

MrChips posted:

...which he clearly isn't. For one, "FLEX takeoff" is a term unique to Airbus (and Fokker I think); Boeing calls a derated takeoff something different...probably "derated takeoff".

Boeing has "derated" takeoff settings and "assumed temperature" settings that let them utilize reduced thrust within those derates. The Mad Dog (MD-80) used FLEX settings of assumed temperature to lower takeoff thrust and if my memory serves me the G4 had a single Flex setting of reduced thrust for takeoff.

None of which is really germane to the argument that a lot of the commenters on Avherald, Airliners.net and (wayback machine) Avsig are totally loving retarded.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

This just reinforces my theory that people frequently conflate technical specialist skills (engineering, pilots, etc) with actually being intelligent or thoughtful.

This is exactly what people do.

See also:
Dunning-Kruger effect

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

holocaust bloopers posted:

It would've made the problem happen that much faster. The moron that wrote that comment cannot comprehend simple physics. A dramatic CG change isn't corrected by more thrust.

It's like saying more horsepower is going to keep your car (that's spinning out of control on black ice) from going into the ditch. $5 says this guy logged an hour in HAWX and things he's an "Aeronautical Einstein".

movax
Aug 30, 2008

Blistex posted:

It's like saying more horsepower is going to keep your car (that's spinning out of control on black ice) from going into the ditch. $5 says this guy logged an hour in HAWX and things he's an "Aeronautical Einstein".

I don't understand what's so hard to understand about "the only thing that would saved that 747 is properly securing the load before take-off", there are no magic aerodynamic tricks to compensate for multi-ton armoured vehicles tumbling in your cargo bay a few hundred feet off the ground immediately after take-off.

Internet :allears:

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Well, you compensate with a giant loving counterweight that takes up most of the lower cargo hold that compensates for CG shifts.

Boeing why didn't you halve the cargo carrying capacity of the 744 to prevent CG shifts!!!!!

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

hobbesmaster posted:

Well, you compensate with a giant loving counterweight that takes up most of the lower cargo hold that compensates for CG shifts.

Boeing why didn't you halve the cargo carrying capacity of the 744 to prevent CG shifts!!!!!

loving corporations always trying to make a buck :jerkbag:

Polymerized Cum
May 5, 2012
I get a paid day off on Tuesday, because my employer apparently forgot that one aircraft's hourly and another's engine overhaul were going to overlap :toot:

Seeing all the boxes labeled Honeywell and American Eurocopter are like Christmas in June :)

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

movax posted:

there are no magic aerodynamic tricks to compensate for multi-ton armoured vehicles tumbling in your cargo bay a few hundred feet off the ground immediately after take-off

But what if they had a rocket?


:smugbert:
Your move, gravity.

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

Boeing to develop SRB-powered airliner, news at 11.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Fucknag posted:

Boeing to develop SRB-powered airliner, news at 11.

Well, Lockheed did it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSFjhWw4DNo

Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.

Ah, the answer to the ancient question "How do you get a C-130 in and out of a soccer field?"

Captain Postal
Sep 16, 2007
This is kinda cool. Idlewild Airport TWA terminal, circa 1964. Much nicer than any terminal I've been in lately, although Changi 3 isn't bad though...

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

From before things needed to be wheelchair accessible.

CovfefeCatCafe
Apr 11, 2006

A fresh attitude
brewed daily!

Fun fact for those of you familiar with Eglin AFB. Credible Sport was tested/developed on the same Aux. Field (Wagner/AF 1) the Doolittle Raiders practiced on.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Credible sport was such a ridiculous plan. Eagle claw was such a disaster that I fear what would have happened if we went through with that plan...

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
I don't think there was one part of Credible sport that made sense.

:v: We're going to land, Delta Force will free the hostages, and we'll take off.
:what: What about the Iranian guards? Won't they fire on the aircraft, the soldiers, and possibly execute the hostages?
:v: Awe...
:what: Awww? You didn't even thing of that? A single stray bullet could turn all those JATOs into a giant fireball, killing everyone and. . .
:v: No sir, "A-W-E" They will be in Awe of our awesomeness. Awe will render the Iranian guards ineffective. We plan to blast Mr. Reagan's campaign song, "Born in the USA" to tell the Iranians how awe-some it is to be American. They will have no choice but to fall to the ground in awe.
:awesome: makes sense to me!

Mao Zedong Thot
Oct 16, 2008


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eagle_Claw

Why were they painting black-red-black stripes on air support planes for this operation? Wikipedia has a couple pictures, but no real explanation.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

polpotpotpotpotpot posted:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eagle_Claw

Why were they painting black-red-black stripes on air support planes for this operation? Wikipedia has a couple pictures, but no real explanation.

Invasion stripes; we sold Iran F-4s and F-14s; there was a lot of potential for confusion.

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SybilVimes
Oct 29, 2011

hobbesmaster posted:

Invasion stripes; we sold Iran F-4s and F-14s; there was a lot of potential for confusion.

I think Iran (like everyone else) had some C-130s at the time too (they certainly do today)

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