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Diogines posted:El never appears in person to deal with people in the stories, though in some of them he speaks to the other sky giants. In some stories he talks to people through a disembodied voice but in most, he sends another sky giant to deliver any messages. Diogines posted:"Asherah does not speak to children and most certainly not to babes." He does not believe you. 
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Ah, geeze. Not a lot of great choices here. Gunna go with S, H, K. K in the hope that appealing to the spirit of our Father will infuse the ceremony and make it actually work a little. It's a hell of a long shot, but hey! As for the H...I pray that Ashera gives us the hunger to destroy the coming beasts so that we may offer him their remains in tribute. Worth a try!
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Jun 13, 2013 19:18
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Lanky Coconut Tree posted:Yo, to you guys who want to try some flashy lightning poo poo. Have you considered that EL and his bunch have been really free and open with the power displays. Tudiya glowing and poo poo, speaking in tongues, super strength, EL calming the forests for us when we prayed to him. Changing my vote to this.
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Jun 13, 2013 19:21
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Triple Not S
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Jun 13, 2013 19:23
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U F Z I want us to lure the monsters away from Jalitha and Danal
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Jun 13, 2013 19:31
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You figured it out, huh? I thought I was the only one.  ZZZ - BURN THE MONSTER!
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Jun 13, 2013 19:33
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Lanky Coconut Tree posted:Yo, to you guys who want to try some flashy lightning poo poo. Have you considered that EL and his bunch have been really free and open with the power displays. Tudiya glowing and poo poo, speaking in tongues, super strength, EL calming the forests for us when we prayed to him.    If Enkidel says anything out-loud: "By Your will alone: guide us, we pray. So be it." (And "guide" could mean anything from where to strike, how to hold the spear, stance or not to do anything at all.)Have Enkidel pray this in his heart: quote:"Creator, You are great. I am made low. You are great before I can even be, let alone be made low. Your ways are beyond our ways. May Your will be done here as it is where You are. Praise You, for You deign to limit and define Yourself to allow us attempts at understanding You. We fail, for You are limitless, yet we try still. You granted us just as much true free will as You have fate, which live together without confliction. Any by this we can know that life is here for a reason and is important. Hear my prayer, oh Creator and let my cry come unto You. This day we have our lives within the grasp of beasts who mean to end life. You have given us the ability to defend ourselves, but there are yet things beyond our strength, which is nothing to Your power. There is purpose to us living. Protect our lives, not for our own profit, but for Your honor and glory. If we don't praise You, something will, the rocks will cry out if they must. May it be that we live this day to Your honor. May we be the ones who praise You. Guide us, we pray.
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Jun 13, 2013 19:35
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Cutting our hand with the shark tooth to summon lightning and kill those lizards will probably work. It's also a terrible idea that will end up getting us killed if you recall the specifics of what happened to Sushem when he invoked the spell. All of his blood disappeared, as if Asherah drained him like a caprisun. We might save our friends by firing fishlasers, but it'll be the last thing we do. My votes: R. "Great El, please aide me in protecting my friends and family. Please guide this spear with your power". F. Zybourne Clock fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Jun 14, 2013 |
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Jun 13, 2013 19:40
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OhYo posted:Another vote for this. Let's take action with El as our strength! Changing vote to O R F, plan Lanky Coconut Tree/OhYo
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Jun 13, 2013 19:45
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paragon1 posted:Triple Not S Yea, let's start this again. It worked really well last time.
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Jun 13, 2013 19:45
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Why are we throwing the lightning spear (Besides it looking cool)? What do we do then for protection? Seems to me ORE would make more sense - if El actually does grant a badass spear, hang onto the drat thing. Note: This is not a vote change for me.
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Jun 13, 2013 19:49
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Bularin posted:Yea, let's start this again. It worked really well last time.
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Jun 13, 2013 19:50
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Bularin posted:Yea, let's start this again. It worked really well last time. Just because you think lightning is a viable choice doesn't mean everyone else has to.
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Jun 13, 2013 20:00
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A Terrible Person posted:
One vote for  Fake edit: we don't know what Shushem chanted in order to shoot lightning, but what if we cut our hand with the tooth while saying the aforementioned prayer? I dunno, wish we had had a chance to 'test-fire' this poo poo before we ended up on the edge of death, but them's the breaks. Edit: Changed vote, page 84. Cathair fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Jun 13, 2013 |
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Jun 13, 2013 20:14
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"Ashera! These beasts of unending flesh must truly be your children! Sate their hunger and take them away if it is your will! If it is not, fill them with your terrible lust for flesh that they may devour eachother endlessly in Your Name! I beseech you as your humble servant!
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HiHo ChiRho posted:Just because you think lightning is a viable choice doesn't mean everyone else has to. K. Back to the point, the whole "not" voting thing is simply annoying. You're not contributing, you're just telling someone else their contribution is irrelevant.
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Jun 13, 2013 20:15
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We've been told several times at this point that Asherah doesn't heed prayers. If we're going to survive this, it really seems like we need some sort of divine aid. If El is going to send angels to help us, it's going to be now, so we might as well go all true-believer and see what happens.
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EXAKT Science posted:We've been told several times at this point that Asherah doesn't heed prayers. If we're going to survive this, it really seems like we need some sort of divine aid. If El is going to send angels to help us, it's going to be now, so we might as well go all true-believer and see what happens. Be warned: a non-response from El/The Creator does not indicate their in-existence. 
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Jun 13, 2013 20:45
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VOTING: O. R. E.
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Jun 13, 2013 20:57
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I would very much like to do an update at some point tonight, we may if we get 60+ people to weigh in, which I think we will at this rate. I don't want to cut people off because they didn't have time to see the new vote. With the exception of S which has a strong lead, the vote really is all over the place. This should be an interesting one. If enough people have voted I am anticipating starring the next update in four hours.
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Jun 13, 2013 21:01
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OhYo posted:Thanks for the back-up, but thank Lanky too 'cause he got us on the ORF train. Well of course! Your post was just the first one I saw when I went looking for one with the icons 
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Jun 13, 2013 21:02
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Changing my vote to Lanky/OhYo except with E instead of F. If we end up with ORS I'm gonna cry, but it would certainly be interesting.
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Jun 13, 2013 21:06
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Changing to triple not-S.
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Jun 13, 2013 21:08
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Changing my vote: From EIS to E double NOT F. Before anyone gets mad - this isn't an anti-El vote, this is an anti spear throwing vote. I think throwing away our only legit weapon at this point is stupid. I don't care if we were Olympic caliber level in spear throwing, I don't like the idea of getting rid of it on a hail mary.
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Jun 13, 2013 21:12
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Diogines posted:OPTION I Empty your bowels and bladder because you are being charged by several giant monsters and definitely, positively, absolutely, guaranteed, no mistake about it, going to die and are very scared. I'm a little kid and this is way, way behind my comprehension and I am absolutely blown away and terrified and on an adrenaline high, making everything worse. Diogines posted:OPTION Q You yell a prayer to one of the gods of your village, or to an Angel or to Enkidu or Labaras. Which? For what? I look for a pond, a lake, anything, but seeing nothing I yell a prayer to Enkidu, my namesake, telling him to help us and to destroy these monsters. Diogines posted:OPTION R You yell a prayer to El. For what? After my prayer to Asheras, I try to repeat what Jalitha is saying, or maybe what Tudiyas is saying. tarepanda fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Jun 13, 2013 |
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Jun 13, 2013 21:16
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Jun 13, 2013 21:19
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tarepanda posted:I yell a prayer to Asheras, asking him to bite the hell out of the monsters. Asheras and his prayers have been drilled into me since I was little, so it's basically a reflex at this point.
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Jun 13, 2013 21:19
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  Lizard's on the menu tonight~
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Jun 13, 2013 21:21
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Algid posted:We've literally been told by a priest of Asherah that he doesn't answer prayers. If you want to get results, you have to at least provide worship beyond just some quality rear end-kissing, something like a blood sacrifice (which I'm voting against, but at least that could do something). Diogenes, did the villagers every pray to Asherah anyway, or invoke his name when big poo poo was about to go down or when surprised/startled/scared (similar to how we'd say "Oh my loving god")?
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Jun 13, 2013 21:29
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Diogines posted:OPTION S Cut your palm with the giant tooth and try imitate what your father did to shoot lightning. Diogines posted:Don't take this as any indication that it won't work, it very well could, and I really mean that, it could, you have no idea how it worked, but I am scratching my head and a bit surprised at the quick popularity of S Lightning, insofar as you seem confident it WILL work. Back of forearm maybe? I hope accidentally severing our extensors is less bad than severing our flexors.
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Jun 13, 2013 21:30
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Jun 13, 2013 21:33
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Asherah's name was only invoked if an offering to him was being made or his stories being told, which often involved offerings too. Your people did not yell his name in surprise. According to your father, he is a god who will punish disobedience and who will not help otherwise. Your people did not want to attract his eye unless they wanted to court disaster or had an offering. In the minds of your people, the endless fish are simply the state of the world, there are ALWAYS fish to catch and storms never happen. Unless Asherah is pissed, in which case, fish go away or storms hit. Asherah causes each and every big storm because he is pissed off. Usually because there were not enough offerings. Incidentally, big storms were rare, only a few a year. Well not rare from your perspective, that is how often it storms everywhere, right? Suggesting praying to Asherah for protection would probably result in your father hitting you and other villagers looking at you like you were nuts. Asherah only protects you from one thing. Himself. At least according to your father and your village. His children, the Great Fish, mentioned in earlier posts, do have their names invoked more commonly and are known to sometimes answer prayers for help. They also like offerings, some like chopped and bloody fish like Asherah, some like beautiful stones, shells, pearls and a variety of other things. Feeding marine mammals is generally seen as a way to make the "nice" gods of your village happy as well, as well as feeding the fish closest associated with each of the Great Fish, their offspring. An ideal way to make am offering is to find the den, hole or environment of one of the children of the Great Fish and leave them inside. Diogines fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Jun 13, 2013 |
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Jun 13, 2013 21:44
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Changing my vote to:, ,
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I really don't understand how people just didn't get what sort of thing Asherah is when it was spelled out very clearly. It's like people trying to kill Narod, but this time we're somehow trying to win the favor of a supernatural entity that's pretty much just offering to eat us first.
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Changed the details of my vote, then. If it was that different, then I guess it wouldn't be a reflex to ask Asherah for help... so I'll yell at my namesake and ask him to wreck some poo poo.
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Jun 13, 2013 22:00
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Absum posted:If we end up with ORS I'm gonna cry, but it would certainly be interesting. It's going to be brilliant, we'll pray to El, but then we'll attempt an Ashera related ritual. 
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Jun 13, 2013 22:01
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Triple not-S because if people are going to continue to try to get us killed as hard as possible, might as well continue trying to avoid it as hard as possible.
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You guys realize that by voting as hard as possible to shut down any Asherah related votes every single round you're doing nothing but making them vote for it again the next round? They want to see if calling to the fish god works, all signs point to it not working....but then you don't let them find out if it actually works or not. So they vote for it again next time. Just let the Asherah contingent, just once, see if calling to the fish god works. We're not trying to sacrifice Danal this round - we're cutting our hand and hoping for lightning. Best case: Lightning! Everybody goes home happy. We know Asherah listens. Worst case: we cut our hand, nothing happens, we pray to El, have our spear, and try to fight off what's coming. Asherah fans find out it didn't work, vote for it less next time. Just let them see if it works already! Task Manager fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jun 13, 2013 |
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Algid posted:I really don't understand how people just didn't get what sort of thing Asherah is when it was spelled out very clearly. Eh, like I said in my vote earlier, I'm not voting to pray to Asherah in hopes he'll answer it with his blessing, I figure Og would worry that Asherah was sending vengeance and destruction down, as he is wont to do, and 'praying' is an attempt at apologizing to Asherah, showing him obedience and asking to be spared his wrath. Clockwork Gadget posted:Triple not-S because if people are going to continue to try to get us killed as hard as possible, might as well continue trying to avoid it as hard as possible. So you're trying to avoiding it by ... what, exactly? Downvoting S is only upvoting any and every other alternative, none of which seem to offer any better chance, and, as of right now, most of the winning alternatives seem to offer standing around and hoping. I mean, how is S any more 'trying to get us killed' than any of the others? Unless it's just a case of 'Asherah related things = terrible = instant game over'?
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Task Manager posted:You guys realize that by voting as hard as possible to shut down any Asherah related votes every single round you're doing nothing but making them vote for it again the next round? They want to see if calling to the fish god works, all signs point to it not working....but then you don't let them find out if it actually works or not. So they vote for it again next time. Both of those list look a little incomplete to me. Besides, S is winning by a huge margin right now.
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