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We are going to die so hard right now. Enjoy being lizard poop!
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:27 |
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 22:18 |
Deadmeat5150 posted:We are going to die so hard right now. Enjoy being lizard poop! Or we will summon forth El lightning which is ten times better than Asherah lightning.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:28 |
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:28 |
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Deadmeat5150 posted:We are going to die so hard right now. Enjoy being lizard poop! You mean I won't have any more votes to tally?
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:29 |
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Theglavwen posted:So you're trying to avoiding it by ... what, exactly? Downvoting S is only upvoting any and every other alternative, none of which seem to offer any better chance, and, as of right now, most of the winning alternatives seem to offer standing around and hoping. For example, a number of people on team Narod died last game, but we were still very much responsible in large part for things turning out like they were. We lost in that in we failed to reach the obvious end goal of becoming a god, but we succeeded in not giving in to our insane future self and birthed the Onegod. We'll almost certainly fail if it's just us and a spear against regenerating dinosaurs, but we can accomplish small victories like getting Jalitha and Danal out of immediate danger, rather than setting up a precedent of cutting ourselves each time we come across a small problem. I mean if you have to worship an rear end in a top hat god, Asherah isn't even particularly strong, he's no Nem Teshet at the least.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:30 |
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SerSpook posted:Or we will summon forth El lightning which is ten times better than Asherah lightning. I'm curious as to if there would be a noticeable difference. Like, Asherah lightning smells kind of fishy and sounds like the ocean, whereas El lightning smells like cinnamon buns and, from somewhere in the distance, we hear harps and bells.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:30 |
Theglavwen posted:I'm curious as to if there would be a noticeable difference. Like, Asherah lightning smells kind of fishy and sounds like the ocean, whereas El lightning smells like cinnamon buns and, from somewhere in the distance, we hear harps and bells. It will actually kill things.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:30 |
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Deadmeat5150 posted:We are going to die so hard right now. Enjoy being lizard poop! Fight the monster from the inside!
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:32 |
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Diogines posted:Both of those list look a little incomplete to me. Sure, it isn't that clear cut - I think the point still stands that shutting down Asherah each and every round is only making it worse. Hell, I didn't even vote anything Asherah related this time and it's getting old to me. It is winning - I remember a few votes ago though where Asherah got shut down at the last second after a healthy lead from the anti voting bloc. It could still happen.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:34 |
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Quick vote from work go fish god.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:35 |
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A Terrible Person posted:Fight the monster from the inside!
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:35 |
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SerSpook posted:It will actually kill things. Woah now, what if they're wearing armor? Algid posted:There are different ways to fail and a particular action establishes precedent for future decisions. Sure, there are different ways to 'fail', given different aimed-for outcomes, then again, many of those 'ways to fail' will be 'ways to succeed' from other points of view. But certainly there are ways for outcomes to not go ideally, but there's a big difference between 'setting a potentially bad precendent' and 'trying hard to get us killed'. Besides, our current options for getting Jalitha and Danal out of danger involve running recklessly into the woods, away from the warriors who protect us, or climbing a tree where we can sit and wait helplessly to be eaten. Perhaps 'cutting ourselves' could just as easily be seen as setting a proactive precendent of trying to stand up to challenges, while the alternative could be seen as setting a precedent of running away and hiding whenever we come across a small problem. There are a whole bunch of ways these decisions can colour our character.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:36 |
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Now I'm afraid Tudiya's going to kill us or something if we actually succeed at Asherah lightning. Though I guess he wouldn't kill a little kid, right? Edit: Yeah okay I doubt he's going to kill us but it'll ruin any chance of living with Danal and going on awesome adventures. Absum fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Jun 13, 2013 |
# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:37 |
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For what it's worth, I'm not praying to Ashera for protection per se either, I'm asking him to help us provide him with an offering. I figure appealing to his stomach and/or ego has the best shot of working out of anything. We know that Ashera does occasionally help people out of he feels like it. So who knows, maybe we'll get lucky? Even if we don't, we won't be any more screwed than if we tried to out-run, out-climb, or out-fight a hydra-like regenerating beastie. Which, if it is anything like a hydra, can probably only be killed by taking out the head, which we definitely can't pull off with a spear. PS: And oh yeah, besides the fact I like Ashera, I'm going with him over El here because I figure Jalitha and the other El worshipers have that angle covered. If El is listening, he'll hear their cries without us chiming in. Best to cover all the bases and all that. So, yeah, long story short, there is logic behind praying to Ashera and giving the ritual a shot. It's not just blind pro-Ashera support.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:38 |
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Algid posted:Things got weird after we vomited up a dude last game, inverting things can only make it better. We'll become a voice in the subconscious of the lizards mind, subtly influencing it's actions for all eternity. Absum posted:Now I'm afraid Tudiya's going to kill us or something if we actually succeed at Asherah lightning. No, we'll just become outcasts again. ConfusedPig fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Jun 13, 2013 |
# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:38 |
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Theglavwen posted:Sure, there are different ways to 'fail', given different aimed-for outcomes, then again, many of those 'ways to fail' will be 'ways to succeed' from other points of view. But certainly there are ways for outcomes to not go ideally, but there's a big difference between 'setting a potentially bad precendent' and 'trying hard to get us killed'.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:38 |
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Theglavwen posted:Besides, our current options for getting Jalitha and Danal out of danger involve running recklessly into the woods, away from the warriors who protect us, or climbing a tree where we can sit and wait helplessly to be eaten. That about sums up why I didn't want to run into the woods. I don't want to climb a tree because I figured these monsters are big/strong enough to just knock the drat thing over or make us fall out.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:40 |
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S S S. Not sacrificing Danal or antagonizing the god-king is fine, but drat, Asherah has been our life up until a few days ago. It makes sense to try.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:41 |
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tarepanda posted:That about sums up why I didn't want to run into the woods.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:42 |
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Algid posted:I specifically asked if we also had to stay in the tree if we took them up, we don't. Kay, so how about the 'get Danal and Jalitha up a tree, then try lightning' options bandied about earlier? I'm still not seeing how this is a 'S votes bad' argument, or how it translates to lightning voters 'trying hard to get us killed'. Maybe that's not the argument you're trying to make? But in that case I'm not sure why my comment was addressed. Task Manager posted:Sure, it isn't that clear cut - I think the point still stands that shutting down Asherah each and every round is only making it worse. Hell, I didn't even vote anything Asherah related this time and it's getting old to me. Frankly, without getting into the neg-votes controversy again, I think the worst thing about the situation is that it's boring. We stop getting much in the way of plans or anything being offered, and just get an endless back and forth of 'Triple-No!', 'oh yeah, well Triple-Yes then!' votes.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:43 |
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We put it up to a vote, it was decided to keep Not-Votes. Like it or not, they're here to stay.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:45 |
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I'm changing my vote to , since S is winning already and I want it to work, I am calling on El to help his people in our time of need, to protect the son of the king and let his Enkidel, his wild man, channel wild lightning to defeat these monsters.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:48 |
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Theglavwen posted:Kay, so how about the 'get Danal and Jalitha up a tree, then try lightning' options bandied about earlier? I'm still not seeing how this is a 'S votes bad' argument, or how it translates to lightning voters 'trying hard to get us killed'. Maybe that's not the argument you're trying to make? But in that case I'm not sure why my comment was addressed.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:49 |
HiHo ChiRho posted:I'm changing my vote to , since S is winning already and I want it to work, I am calling on El to help his people in our time of need, to protect the son of the king and let his Enkidel, his wild man, channel wild lightning to defeat these monsters. Yeah, while not changing my vote I want this to be part of our prayer. I specifically want to ask for the lightning to smite our foes, or Smattas and Marnal to smite them. Something like that. edit: On what's proactive and what's not, prayer to El or angels is pretty proactive. We've actually had that have an effect in the game, for instance, and that's what they're supposed to do.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:50 |
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SerSpook posted:edit: On what's proactive and what's not, prayer to El or angels is pretty proactive. We've actually had that have an effect in the game, for instance, and that's what they're supposed to do. The only supernatural power we've experienced that couldn't possibly have come from another human is the voice that we heard when we were 4.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 22:58 |
Algid posted:It's hard to separate what's an effect of some outside supernatural force and what's an effect of of Tudiya and company's weird ancestry. The only incident might be the group prayer, and even then that could have been just the king. The prayer in the forest calmed stuff down, unless we imagined that which is possible. My point is that we've perhaps seen more from El prayer than we have Asherah prayer.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 23:04 |
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SerSpook posted:The prayer in the forest calmed stuff down, unless we imagined that which is possible. My point is that we've perhaps seen more from El prayer than we have Asherah prayer.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 23:06 |
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Deadmeat5150 posted:We are going to die so hard right now. Enjoy being lizard poop! Poop your own adventure. A) Push B) Push harder C) Hold the gate!
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 23:09 |
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We choose to hold the gate in this game and do the other things. Not because it is easy, but because it is hard.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 23:12 |
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 23:17 |
Absum posted:Now I'm afraid Tudiya's going to kill us or something if we actually succeed at Asherah lightning. Assuming you succeed, how do you imagine Kudiya will respond? You know, the guy your dad threw lightning at, burned through his metal armor and only burned his chest hair a bit. And was then decapitated by. The guy who has apparently killed a dragon(s?) before, one large enough to use it's skull as a gate to a city. If S wins you will get the S result, I promise. The back end of the game never changes for narrative reasons, it is all being kept fair and consistent, scouts honor. I truly do not care or have an interest on what you vote for, I just don't want anyone to be shocked at possible outcomes. Of course, it could be positive, perhaps they will be happy you saved everyone? Perhaps something else entirely happens. There is no guaranteed it works at all, of course.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 23:26 |
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Theglavwen posted:I mean, how is S any more 'trying to get us killed' than any of the others? Unless it's just a case of 'Asherah related things = terrible = instant game over'? A while ago, this happened: quote:One of the men stabs your father in the chest, no blood spurts out and it does not seem to slow him down, nor do the next two spears to pierce his chest have any obvious effect. Asherah is a cannibal. The tribe we grew up in are cannibals, and they worship teeth. Sushem used a shark tooth in his ritual. It doesn't take that large a leap of logic to foresee what cutting yourself with that ritual tooth will do: it'll drain all of Enkidel's blood as an offering to Asherah, after which he gets to throw around lightning for a bit and then he dies. Fish demon is nobody's friend. You're not going to get any protection from him, the best you can hope for is that he feels indifferent about your fate. This isn't speculation, it's pretty much exactly what Sushem told us. The sooner we abandon fish demon, the better,
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 23:27 |
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Wow, this is the worst time to be pro Asherah. I fully expect Asherah to kill us. And I voted for sacrificing the child earlier.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 23:38 |
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Algid posted:You're saying that getting them up the tree leads to a precedent of running away, I'm saying that that's not the case. It's not a reason to vote for or against S, just that of the 2 choices S is not automatically the more proactive action we can take, which is what you were saying. Not quite, what I was saying was that you could just as easily spin S as proactive and C as running away, as you could spin S as 'cutting ourselves everytime a small problem crops up' and C as 'responsibly assuring the safety of others'. All in the context of whether or not S ought to be seen as a guaranteed failure vote, or otherwise 'voting to get us killed'. Zybourne Clock posted:Asherah is a cannibal. The tribe we grew up in are cannibals, and they worship teeth. Sushem used a shark tooth in his ritual. It doesn't take that large a leap of logic to foresee what cutting yourself with that ritual tooth will do: it'll drain all of Enkidel's blood as an offering to Asherah, after which he gets to throw around lightning for a bit and then he dies. That's a remarkable stretch to claim as being an obvious outcome, I think. I seriously doubt Shushem's first response to invaders in the town was to kill himself in order to fend them off, and minor blood sacrifice was a recurring theme, he was cutting himself as an appeal to Asherah when Jalitha cut our hair too. It's possible that all of our blood will be sucked out to fuel Asherah's lightning and Dio will end the game; it's also possible that we could throw our spear at a monster, and have it regenerate and encorporate the spear into its frame, and become an evil spear monster, twice as powerful as before! I don't personally think either is very likely.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 23:45 |
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dog kisser posted:HSS In times of pants making GBS threads fear, people generally fall back on what's been drilled into them. What's that for us?, oh that's right, almost half our life as a priest in training to Asherah. Although I want plan dogkisser, since S seems to be winning, I'll use my votes to power it Voting Triple H "Asherah!!; these ravenous beasts know not true hunger!!!, they are but pretenders cast from the deep....grant me to deliver them back to you as glorious sacrifice" If there's one thing we know Asherah wants, it's sacrifices, the bigger the better probably. alpaca diseases fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Jun 14, 2013 |
# ? Jun 13, 2013 23:45 |
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If a game is built around a world in such a way that the world causes the game to end for a relatively minor step off the rails, particularly if the derail is one that could have been easily predicted given the format of the game, then it's good if the game ends early. Still, I'm really interested in seeing the end of this story, regardless of whether it happens right now or in a few months.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 23:46 |
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Not S x3 Considering Diog is doing his whole "guys I'm not saying anything one way or another but terrible ideas will get you killed" and the fact the Asherah was only prayed to out of fear, and our father had no blood when he was killed, S seems unlikely to succeed. Not to mention we don't even know how to use lightning...
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 23:46 |
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You know, what makes us so sure the tooth is an Asherah thing? I mean, it was used by a priest of his, sure, but if Asherah does not grant people things as such, then don't the results of Dad stabbing himself imply that it isn't something being done by Asherah? It could just be a magic item or something iono. I voted for us trying to do magic and making GBS threads ourselves because I imagine we're in a pretty desperate state of mind.
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# ? Jun 13, 2013 23:51 |
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Mr Apollo posted:Not S x3 You know guys, just because Diogines weighs in on an option, it doesn't mean that a vote for that is a vote for instadeath, it usually just means the outcome will be interesting, he said as much himself. He's pretty much being our Sebek this time. alpaca diseases fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Jun 14, 2013 |
# ? Jun 13, 2013 23:57 |
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maxhush posted:You know guys, just because Diogines weighs in on an option, it doesn't mean that a vote for that is a vote for instadeath, it usually just means the outcome will be interesting, he said as much himself. He's pretty much being our Sebek this time round. As soon as it makes sense to do so, we'll get you a Sebek of your very own! Or not! Maybe!
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:02 |