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Diogines posted:As soon as it makes sense to do so, we'll get you a Sebek of your very own! Or not! Maybe! Unless we're the Sebek to Donal's Denziroh
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:05 |
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Canuck-Errant posted:Unless we're the Sebek to Donal's Denziroh Donal's hosed
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:08 |
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No matter how this vote ends, I wanted to say that it was a pleasure. That and blame Sojenus if we die, because he did not vote to keep falling.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:14 |
If we have 60 voters by 8:00, which is the 4 hours from my previous post when I said "4 hours if we got enough people", I will do the next update, which is 40 minutes from now. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai-NXQJr2zTRdHpLTzB6RlY1d0dZMS1DVlV1Wkk5YkE#gid=0 is the current tally. My thanks to Cannuck for keeping a tally.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:20 |
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Theglavwen posted:It's possible that all of our blood will be sucked out to fuel Asherah's lightning and Dio will end the game; it's also possible that we could throw our spear at a monster, and have it regenerate and encorporate the spear into its frame, and become an evil spear monster, twice as powerful as before! I don't personally think either is very likely. I think this is a disingenuous thing to say. We've seen Sushem perform the ritual before and we know what the consequences are. Tudiya's men stabbed him in the chest several times and it didn't cause him to bleed. You'd think that if the tooth only drained a little bit of blood there'd still be at least some blood seeping from Sushem's wounds, but that wasn't the case. There's at least some evidence that using the tooth is a very bad idea, and you can't just handwave that away. Diogines, I want to recall the events surrounding Sushem's death. When Tudiya separated the priest's head from his body, did we get a good look at it? If so, did we see any blood seeping from his corpse at all?
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:21 |
Zybourne Clock posted:I think this is a disingenuous thing to say. We've seen Sushem perform the ritual before and we know what the consequences are. Tudiya's men stabbed him in the chest several times and it didn't cause him to bleed. You'd think that if the tooth only drained a little bit of blood there'd still be at least some blood seeping from Sushem's wounds, but that wasn't the case. There's at least some evidence that using the tooth is a very bad idea, and you can't just handwave that away. Not a drop. Here is the post in question. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3550307&userid=129241&perpage=40&pagenumber=2#post415883229
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:24 |
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Rx3 pray to El to destroy Ashera and these monsters that are obviously servants of that heathen pretender.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:27 |
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Lanky Coconut Tree posted:Yo, to you guys who want to try some flashy lightning poo poo. Have you considered that EL and his bunch have been really free and open with the power displays. Tudiya glowing and poo poo, speaking in tongues, super strength, EL calming the forests for us when we prayed to him. Voting for this. ORF Ashera seems to be the kind of god you pray to so he leaves you alone, and we're rather far from his domain now I would think.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:29 |
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Diogines posted:Not a drop. Have we ever seen him bleed before? Maybe he was just a walking corpse that could not die until another priest replaced him.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:30 |
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Voting ORF. Pray to El and the angels for protection, or failing that, the strength to protect our best friend and mother. Also, do everything we can to keep ourselves between our mother/Danal and the monsters.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:31 |
Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:Have we ever seen him bleed before? Maybe he was just a walking corpse that could not die until another priest replaced him. You have seen him use his own blood in rituals before. He had blood.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:32 |
Diogines posted:You have seen him use his own blood in rituals before. He had blood. Blood sucking tooth theory looks more and more possible. I still don't buy it, but it does make a certain degree of sense.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:33 |
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Diogines posted:You have seen him use his own blood in rituals before. He had blood. For some reason I imagine you just having an exasperated look. "Yes, the sky is blue, Deadlyhamsandwich." Also, the vote so far looks like a fun result.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:34 |
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Voting HHH just because the vote currently has us yelling to El, then doing some heathen poo poo. Best to try to get our prayers in line with our actions since S is going to happen regardless.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:37 |
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rex monday posted:Voting HHH just because the vote currently has us yelling to El, then doing some heathen poo poo. Best to try to get our prayers in line with our actions since S is going to happen regardless. Ixtlilton fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Jun 14, 2013 |
# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:42 |
Shifting vote to not-HHH from FOR.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:44 |
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I am voting not-sss
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:46 |
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Canuck-Errant posted:Unless we're the Sebek to Donal's Denziroh Danal: "Enkidel, a significant part of Zepath is becoming unsatisfied with my rule, some of them are even threatening riots and revolution. Should I hear their demands, or scold them for their lack of faith in me? I urgently need your advice on how to handle the situation, my good friend " Enkidel: "Just publicly execute some of them them, you'll be fine "
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:48 |
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I'm changing my vote to not SSS. e: I really don't want to shoot down people's ideas, I just think that using the tooth is this game's equivalent of trying to vomit up our own skeleton.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:48 |
B - C - S Lightning traditionally works best going from up to down. Lets shoot the lightning...from the tree. Might as well keep Danal with us while we do.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:50 |
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Changing my vote: from FOR to:
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:51 |
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GoneWithTheTornado posted:Danal: "Enkidel, a significant part of Zepath is becoming unsatisfied with my rule, some of them are even threatening riots and revolution. Should I hear their demands, or scold them for their lack of faith in me? I urgently need your advice on how to handle the situation, my good friend " I made it better.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:51 |
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Voting for SSS gently caress being the good guy lets make this a story of cannibal pirates bringing doom to all!
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:52 |
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Zybourne Clock posted:I think this is a disingenuous thing to say. We've seen Sushem perform the ritual before and we know what the consequences are. Tudiya's men stabbed him in the chest several times and it didn't cause him to bleed. You'd think that if the tooth only drained a little bit of blood there'd still be at least some blood seeping from Sushem's wounds, but that wasn't the case. There's at least some evidence that using the tooth is a very bad idea, and you can't just handwave that away. It is a bit, yes, the two examples aren't perfectly equivalent, there is slightly more evidence for the blood sucking tooth than the other example, but not enough to put it substantially further into the realm of likely outcomes, I don't think. The complete absence of blood is intriguing, I'll grant, but I'd say it's much more likely that it was simply part of the 'immortal' effect Asherah was imbuing Shushem with; wouldn't have been a very effective invulnerability if he'd actually been bleeding out and taking wounds, and when you couple that with the fact that cutting his palm seemed to be Shushem's standard go-to supplication, and that it doesn't seem terribly sensible for Shushem to have immediately enacted a desperate, last-stand sort of maneuver in response to only just encountering some strangers who hadn't even evidenced particular maliciousness or threat, you have to make a pretty serious leap to the assumption that Asherah rituals are a one-time life-for-lightning sort of deal. Who knows, maybe Shushem had actually forseen this, and was indeed offering his life to try and change the outcome he thought was coming. I'd still bet, in that case, though that there's a bit more to it than just cutting your palm a bit and asking for lightning. Shushem used the tooth often, and cut his palms as a way of offering to Asherah, and didn't suffer for either one in the majority of cases, that we can tell. I imagine that if a full on life-offering does come into it, we'll have a bit more notice, or a chance to cut the ritual off before it completes.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:53 |
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Okay, changing my vote to . , and
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:56 |
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Theglavwen posted:Shushem used the tooth often, and cut his palms as a way of offering to Asherah, and didn't suffer for either one in the majority of cases, that we can tell. I was on the side of "the tooth will suck our blood out and kill us" until this argument. It makes a lot of sense.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:59 |
Voting is closing in 30 seconds.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:59 |
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HiHo ChiRho posted:I'm changing my vote to , since S is winning already and I want it to work, I am calling on El to help his people in our time of need, to protect the son of the king and let his Enkidel, his wild man, channel wild lightning to defeat these monsters. Changin!
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 00:59 |
Time to review the votes and analyze them.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 01:01 |
El Lightning is incoming, or nothing happens, or we die. I guess.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 01:05 |
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SerSpook posted:El Lightning is incoming, or nothing happens, or we die. I guess. All three, then we can come back as Jesus and bring loaves and fishes to everyone, I think that's how it works.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 01:07 |
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Preemptively voting for Mage Game if we die.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 01:09 |
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Zybourne Clock posted:e: I really don't want to shoot down people's ideas, I just think that using the tooth is this game's equivalent of trying to vomit up our own skeleton. Except for the fact that the skeleton vomiting came right out of left field, as something's don't think Diogines had really planned for?. As opposed to using the tooth, the option of which to do so has been in the cards for a while now, that he would have reasonably expected us to try. Why would he make one of the most game-centric options an instadeath? Well, there's a few reasons, but Diogines doesn't strike me as that sort of GM, ha e: Although funnily enough, the vote results are actually pretty fitting for who we're turning Ogenkidel into; Truely believing the Gods will protect us while cutting ourselves for Asherah but accidentally praying to the wrong one cause we're retardedly bipolar. alpaca diseases fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Jun 14, 2013 |
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Raserys posted:Preemptively voting for Mage Game if we die. If we're pre-voting in case of death, I'd like to see the dragon game.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 01:12 |
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Y'all should have a little faith in our ADD lad. Og could pull through yet!
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 01:18 |
maxhush posted:Except for the fact that the skeleton vomiting came right out of left field, as something's don't think Diogines had really planned for?. As opposed to using the tooth, the option of which to do so has been in the cards for a while now, that he would have reasonably expected us to try. Why would he make one of the most game-centric options an instadeath? All tooth stuff actually came from player's voting for it. Hell, I think I might have suggested taking the tooth and running. Shooting lightning came up last update or the one before it, and Diog is just adding that because people wanted to try it. It's not really central to the game at all.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 01:22 |
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maxhush posted:e: Although funnily enough, the vote results are actually pretty fitting for who we're turning Ogenkidel into; Believing the Gods will protect us while cutting ourselves for Asherah but loving up and accidentally praying to the wrong one cause we're all bipolar about things. Hey, there's a lot going on, I guess we should be glad we ended up saying words at all, as opposed to ... well voiding our bowels while screaming gibberish.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 01:24 |
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Theglavwen posted:It is a bit, yes, the two examples aren't perfectly equivalent, there is slightly more evidence for the blood sucking tooth than the other example, but not enough to put it substantially further into the realm of likely outcomes, I don't think. The complete absence of blood is intriguing, I'll grant, but I'd say it's much more likely that it was simply part of the 'immortal' effect Asherah was imbuing Shushem with; wouldn't have been a very effective invulnerability if he'd actually been bleeding out and taking wounds, and when you couple that with the fact that cutting his palm seemed to be Shushem's standard go-to supplication, and that it doesn't seem terribly sensible for Shushem to have immediately enacted a desperate, last-stand sort of maneuver in response to only just encountering some strangers who hadn't even evidenced particular maliciousness or threat, you have to make a pretty serious leap to the assumption that Asherah rituals are a one-time life-for-lightning sort of deal. But Sushem did sustain wounds. The spears went straight through his body and Tudiya severed his head in a single clean blow. And why would magically removing someone's blood be essential to making that person immortal? I really don't see the connection you're trying to make there. Fact of the matter is that all of his blood got drained, and that Sushem worshiped a cannibalistic demon and was the leader of a tribe of people who worship teeth. I can't prove that Asherah did in fact squeeze Sushem dry like a juice box, but thematically speaking it's a much better explanation that 'must be related to the magic ritual for some unknown reason'. Don't forget that Sushem was the high priest of a neolithic tribe, and that Tudiya and crew were like aliens to him. Wine was a completely unknown thing in the tribe. When the king offered him some, he thought they were trying to poison him to death. The tribesmen pointed their spears at the king's men, which is practically the universal way of saying 'get lost, we don't want your kind here'. Tudiya and his men willfully chose to ignore this sign. From Sushem's perspective, he had every reason to suspect them of malice. Considering how he had no patience for our fumbling, it's a miracle he didn't try to fish laser them out of existence any sooner.
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 01:27 |
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I am interpreting the combination of praying to El and cutting our hand with the tooth as us trying to desperately pray to El the only way we know how to desperately pray, like our father did. This isn't the time for some bed time prayer where we clasp our hands together. This is time for serious cutting your own hands prayers!
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# ? Jun 14, 2013 01:33 |
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SerSpook posted:All tooth stuff actually came from player's voting for it. Hell, I think I might have suggested taking the tooth and running. Shooting lightning came up last update or the one before it, and Diog is just adding that because people wanted to try it. It's not really central to the game at all. It can be argued that the tooth has been a staple point in the game since the first vote to cut Jalithas hair with it. The game thus far anyway, I meant. My point anyway was that voting to use the tooth can't really be compared to voting to vomit up our skeleton last game. One is a vote that could be reasonably expected to happen eventually, and the GM knowing what will happen after it. Where as the other one came right out of left field, therefore carrying with it a lot more chance of death/real bad whatever. If that makes sense. alpaca diseases fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Jun 14, 2013 |
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