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As with everything at a community college that isn't "transferable gen ed credits 101", you'll learn more on your own at home if you remain motivated. However, if motivation and attention span are an issue, that might be an interesting experience and will keep you on track. Would give you exposure to a lot of stuff, serve as a way to network with a couple of people, etc. I dunno, that looks interesting enough to me!
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KetTarma posted:I decided to see if my local community college has any interesting IT related courses since my courseload is going to be lax fairly soon and.... Spoiler: A lot of schools are really exploitative and/or just plain bad. Although that curriculum looks geared toward taking a random person from "wut r computar?" to CCNA certified which might legitimately take that long. I mean, the first course is Basic Computer Concepts.
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KetTarma posted:I decided to see if my local community college has any interesting IT related courses since my courseload is going to be lax fairly soon and.... "Basic Computer Concepts"? At first glance it's kind of odd, but when you really think about it, it's not that surprising that it would take them three semesters to go from "How do I computer" to "why yes, I'd love to troubleshoot the issues you're having in your small- to medium-sized network" - especially if it's  THE NEW CCNA My local community college makes an entire Associate's Degree program out of the CCNA/P curriculum.
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This explains so much for some of my clients. "Yes, VLANs are necessary" "Yes you might have to log into a switch to confirm a config" "And yes, this is much better than a flat network" Fatal fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Jun 14, 2013 |
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Jun 14, 2013 06:16
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I had a part-time worker at my last job who was in a network security program at a CC. In the second semester of his networking class they had logged into the web interface of a catalyst and that was it, so I kind of took it upon myself to teach him about the CLI and basic interconnectivity. I could understand an associate's for a CCNP, although if you're at CCNP level you'd better have some drat experience with Windows or *nix otherwise WTF.
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Jun 14, 2013 12:00
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Just passed my CCNA... barely. I made a pig's ear out of two of the three sim questions and was sweating when I clicked to submit the final answer. My relief at passing was dampened a lot by a message that the score is provisional and I might have to retake it if they don't think it represents a "valid measure" of my ability. How likely is that? Has anyone here had to do that after getting a low score or is this for if they think you cheated?
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Jun 14, 2013 13:55
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It's been a while, but I'm fairly certain all scores are considered provisional until they clear Cisco however many days later.
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Jun 14, 2013 13:58
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bitterandtwisted posted:Just passed my CCNA... barely. I made a pig's ear out of two of the three sim questions and was sweating when I clicked to submit the final answer. About the time Cisco started taking your picture is when they started issuing provisional scores. If you read the fine print, they can take up to 72 hours to confirm your test. There is a URL on the test report you can go to and check your test results, I just wait till they show up in my Certification Progress page.
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I'm going to attempt the CCENT 640-822 today. I've never done a cert exam before so I have no idea how this is going to go. I used Wendell Odom's INCD1 book and did all of the included practice exams, chapter tests, subnetting practice questions, all of the memory tables and command references, plus some CBT Nuggets videos on a few topics.
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Jun 14, 2013 14:13
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Does anyone who has taken CCNA/CCNP Voice have any links to someone who blogged about setting up CUCM in VMware and a GNS3 virtual lab? The ones I have found are pretty weak.
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Jun 14, 2013 16:54
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Just passed the ICND1 640-822. Helps to be very certain of what you know to eliminate the awkward and strange answers from the correct ones.
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Jun 14, 2013 19:17
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I took a PearsonVUE exam recently at 0800, was given the "Provisional Score" when I finished at 0845. I had my "Offical Score" by 1900 that night.
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Jun 14, 2013 19:23
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How do they send you the official score? Is it by email?
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Jun 14, 2013 19:42
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VR Cowboy posted:How do they send you the official score? Is it by email? It'll show up in your candidate profile. Make sure you have the correct mailing address on there so they can send you your certificate.
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VR Cowboy posted:How do they send you the official score? Is it by email? I got an email as well.
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Same here, and those bastards never sent me my CCNP certification by snail mail...forever an empty placard on my wall 
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Surely you afford to buy another ceritficate with that sweet ccnp salary? Aren't they $15? haha
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Only now did I just realize that Pearson Vue (at least in my area) limits you to scheduling the quickest exam exam ~25 days away when I planned to have it done by the end of June.  Reading over the A+ practice exam looked like a piece of cake (as did the results), so I am wondering if I should just skip A+ and spent that time studying for Security+.
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Haydez posted:Surely you afford to buy another ceritficate with that sweet ccnp salary? Aren't they $15? haha You can get them for free, when you get new certs. I have never seen a paper cert of mine, all paper ones have never made it to me, or I just opt to get PDFs. Now and then I re-download all my Cisco PDFs, since recruiters seem to get confused by the arbitrary expiration date on them. I wish that I could get some of that sweet CCNP money, all my jobs can be done by a monkey with a CCENT or they expect IE level of knowledge (so I don't get those jobs, LOL).
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Jun 14, 2013 22:04
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I've been revising the CBT Nuggets CCNA stuff but that wasn't enough for me when I took it the first time. What other sources of info/material have you guys been using? I feel like there's a whole bunch of information i'm missing somewhere...!
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Tasty Wheat posted:You can get them for free, when you get new certs. I have never seen a paper cert of mine, all paper ones have never made it to me, or I just opt to get PDFs. Now and then I re-download all my Cisco PDFs, since recruiters seem to get confused by the arbitrary expiration date on them. There's a lot of middle ground out there - the only people who I have seen struggle to find work are those who get silo'd, spending years at a job where you had a specific set of tasks. We interviewed a guy who spent 7 years provisioning ports on 6500 access switches. Guy knew a ton about 6500's, but only when it came to layer 2 - didn't know gently caress all
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SilentGeek posted:Were you not able to schedule the test through the Pearson VUE website? That's how I scheduled mine, though the earliest slot I could get was a couple of weeks in the future because the testing centers were already booked up. Still waiting for them to confirm my account so I can do that. I did not plan well.
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Thirteenth Step posted:I've been revising the CBT Nuggets CCNA stuff but that wasn't enough for me when I took it the first time. What other sources of info/material have you guys been using? I feel like there's a whole bunch of information i'm missing somewhere...! I went down in flames on my first try. My solution was labbing and taking lots and lots of notes; I would watch a video about a technology, then read about the technology, lastly I would lab it. I used Trainsignal back when Chris Bryant did them back in '06, but it's going to be the same principle. Sepist posted:There's a lot of middle ground out there - the only people who I have seen struggle to find work are those who get silo'd, spending years at a job where you had a specific set of tasks. We interviewed a guy who spent 7 years provisioning ports on 6500 access switches. Guy knew a ton about 6500's, but only when it came to layer 2 - didn't know gently caress all Oh, I admit that my last interview I crashed and burned and I also admit I am a bit pigeonholed; knowing how to maintain network while getting shelled does not always translate well back to Corp American (even when you're dealing within the same company, field vs data center). Once I am done with the my latest test it's time to go back to school, redo all the NP R&S material.
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So I have my Security+, am most of the way through studying for my A+, and can pick up my N+ relatively quickly if I have to. Do I really need the N+ to pick up a beginning IT job? I want to eventually work my way up to a CISSP and do computer security IT work. I guess the N+ would be useful to understand why I do the things I need to do for security things? vv College courses. Nothing practical/real world. This is essentially me going after my very first IT job and loading up on whatever certifications I can get (I took a course on the N+, but never got around to getting it with my Security+.) to get a job. FaintlyQuaint fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Jun 16, 2013 |
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Depends what is your experience with networking?
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FaintlyQuaint posted:So I have my Security+, am most of the way through studying for my A+, and can pick up my N+ relatively quickly if I have to. Do I really need the N+ to pick up a beginning IT job? I want to eventually work my way up to a CISSP and do computer security IT work. It's pretty expensive but if you can afford it then you might as well just knock it out. Otherwise I'd start with CCENT, it covers basic networking concepts and then you can move on to CCNA if you want.
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FaintlyQuaint posted:So I have my Security+, am most of the way through studying for my A+, and can pick up my N+ relatively quickly if I have to. Do I really need the N+ to pick up a beginning IT job? I want to eventually work my way up to a CISSP and do computer security IT work. I have an rear end ton of Cisco stuff, always worry if I have to much. I have a Security+, but only because jobs have required it. I have let to run into a job that requires a Network+. If you go into Gov network's there will be cert requirements.
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So I finally passed my 647 exam the other day, with a passing grade of 780. It's now showing up in the MCP portal, someone here said they'd gotten the MCITP: Enterprise admin too and that it was automatically upgraded to the MCSA: 2008 certification But when I look at the certification planner it's showing that I also have to pass the 646 exam to get this?
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I have a question with registration for the exam: I set up my test time at a training school since they were the only times that did weekends, Do they have to accept non-students for the test or do I need to change locations? Island Nation fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Jun 16, 2013 |
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Finished the OSCP exam after 13 hours. I managed to get root on 4 servers and got a shell on the last server but decided that since I already had 75 points I would rather get to bed than spend the rest of the 24 hour exam dinking with a server for points I didnt need to pass. Turned in the report (64 pages ugh) and now I just wait for the results back. Fingers crossed!
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Island Nation posted:I have a question with registration for the exam: Call them, I have taken tests before in locations where the public could not gain access to. That being said, they should say on their Directions Page (when you registered) if the location is private or limited access. e. To much time in airplanes, my spelling sucks.
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I'm looking at starting on the VCP5-DCV cert from vmware as I'm told that would easier than a citrix certification. Just how difficult are vmware certs? Apart from the cost which I'll figure out how to deal with. Are they equal or harder than Cisco's? Less math I'm told which is a huge bonus for me but asking here.
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DropsySufferer posted:I'm looking at starting on the VCP5-DCV cert from vmware as I'm told that would easier than a citrix certification. Just how difficult are vmware certs? Apart from the cost which I'll figure out how to deal with. Are they equal or harder than Cisco's? Less math I'm told which is a huge bonus for me but asking here. Citrix is by far easier to get than VMware. VMware's tests are very very difficult if you haven't worked with the product, or architecture of a virtualized environment. I wouldn't say they are as hard as cisco's "you forgot the - so it is wrong", but if you haven't been working with VMware or Virtualization you are going to have a tough time. My friend did a right up of his expirence FYI http://www.vhersey.com/2013/02/citrix-certified-advanced-administrator-ccaa-for-xenapp-6/ Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Jun 17, 2013 |
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Heh - there are Citrix Certs too... Curious, how much are these worth on their own? Are they as valuable as a CCNA or CCIE?
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theperminator posted:So I finally passed my 647 exam the other day, with a passing grade of 780. The 646 Exam is the Server Administrator exam. So essentially finishing off MCITP: Server Administrator. My feeling is that you can't just jump to Enterprise Admin, you need to get certified as an SA first, then it will automatically bump you up once it acknowledges your 647.
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Corvettefisher posted:Citrix is by far easier to get than VMware. VMware's tests are very very difficult if you haven't worked with the product, or architecture of a virtualized environment. I'd only have experience if you count something like VMware workstation or virtualbox which are basically for end users and developers. That's very helpful, thanks. Still planning as this is a big change on what I was doing before (CCNA). From reading your friend's article it seems like a good idea to get a Citrix cert first in order to get some basic experience and then move to VMware. Tab8715 posted:Heh - there are Citrix Certs too... Curious, how much are these worth on their own? Are they as valuable as a CCNA or CCIE? I suppose it would depend on your perspective employer and what they want. Mine did not care about the CCNA in the least bit but that's a university environment. No idea on the industry as a whole other than the CCIE is highly regarded and very expensive.
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Gap In The Tooth posted:The 646 Exam is the Server Administrator exam. So essentially finishing off MCITP: Server Administrator. It's all good, I got another email today notifying me that I've been qualified as MCSA 2008 too. Fat load of good that is, my cert is only useful until october. I'll need to upgrade to 2012 if they need my certs to go towards our partnership.
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Tab8715 posted:Heh - there are Citrix Certs too... Curious, how much are these worth on their own? Are they as valuable as a CCNA or CCIE? We use XenApp Server and it's wholly owned, operated, and designed by the Windows sysadmin team.
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Ozu posted:There are places that are heavily invested in Citrix and might place a check mark next to your resume because of a specific Citrix cert, but as a whole I'd say it's probably not nearly as "valuable" career-wise as a CCNA, and certainly not in the same universe as a CCIE. Ah, I figured as much. Sounds like something you'd do after you got your MCSE.
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theperminator posted:So I finally passed my 647 exam the other day, with a passing grade of 780. Congrats man. I have to take my 3rd crack at it really soon. What did you use to study? I missed the first try by 1 question and the 2nd by 2 questions. I know there's another goon in here in a similar situation.
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