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Call Now posted:You're okay, Oren. A beach episode that ends in murder. Now THAT'S a special episode. I wonder if japanese people that play this game are in the age gap to get references Sonia and other characters make about...everything. I mean, shows that ran from the mid-seventies to the mid-eighties are still recognizable by the overall japanese populace or is the writter just going "I bet SOMEONE will get this and they'll feel great."?
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Jeez, a filler episode already?  I'm not sure whether I'm madder at Souda right now for being really, really creepy or for being really, really anime. e: Also, are the shows Sonia's namedropping obscure or just really old? Like, Hinata isn't being all like the equivalent of "M*A*S*H? What the gently caress is M*A*S*H?" or anything, right? One of them lasted for fourteen years, so it couldn't have been TOO obscure. e2: Also, yeah, this series does have a history of apparently setting up for anime cliches and then subverting the gently caress out of them (referring mostly to Maizono being the first one to die) so I think it's safe to assume that the Beach Filler Episode will never really get off the ground due to someone being horribly murdered somewhere along the way. loquacius fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Jun 19, 2013 |
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Judging from her tastes, I wouldn't be that surprised if Sonia had seen Meitantei no Okite at some point. Though thinking about it it's perhaps too recent for the game to reference or perhaps even, ironically, Sonia to know anything about. Shame too, since that'd be an interesting way to bring the Liar Game reference from Celes' events in the previous game full circle since Shota Matsuda's the male lead in both.
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Jun 19, 2013 19:38
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I love Souda, here I was thinking that our favorite psycho escaped or something equally bad but nope. Just wants to be a idiot.
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I'm expecting this beach fiasco to end in murder, hopefully before anything too creepy happens. I am seriously hoping someone dies rather than fanservice happening.
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Green Intern posted:I'm expecting this beach fiasco to end in murder, hopefully before anything too creepy happens. I'm expecting the diner to already be a bloody mess when we get there.
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Jun 19, 2013 20:00
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Ha, Souda's hilarious. You go shark man.
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So is the gimmick of the game going to be that somebody dies every time there is a party?
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Green Intern posted:I am seriously hoping someone dies rather than fanservice happening. What about both? ...Maybe even at the same time?
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Jun 19, 2013 20:29
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I don't usually mind the fanservice too much but I really hope they don't use it as evidence this time.
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Green Intern posted:I'm expecting this beach fiasco to end in murder, hopefully before anything too creepy happens. Nah, it's pretty definitely gonna be fanservice. Oren mentioned earlier how there's one fanservice scene in DR2 that's pretty shameful, but everything else is good.
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Requested_Username posted:Nah, it's pretty definitely gonna be fanservice. Oren mentioned earlier how there's one fanservice scene in DR2 that's pretty shameful, but everything else is good. I think that was back during DR1 that he said that.
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Requested_Username posted:Nah, it's pretty definitely gonna be fanservice. Oren mentioned earlier how there's one fanservice scene in DR2 that's pretty shameful, but everything else is good. I believe I was talking about those two Mikan CGs in chapter 1. They do serve a purpose, and are self-aware tongue-in-cheek, but still.
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Requested_Username posted:Nah, it's pretty definitely gonna be fanservice. Oren mentioned earlier how there's one fanservice scene in DR2 that's pretty shameful, but everything else is good. I don't know, Mikan's little "accidents" seem pretty shameful even though they were covered up. ^edit: beaten by oren Admiral H. Curtiss posted:What about both? Somehow if Mikan is the one that dies, that is how she'd probably go out. Died of embarrassment
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orenronen posted:What’s he up to... asking me to meet him at the supermarket out of nowhere? I find myself liking Hinata more with every update. I love Naegi, too, but I really like that Hinata actually considers whether Souda might be planning to murder him, whereas the thought would never have crossed Naegi's mind. Hinata's generally a great protagonist for this game. He feels like a very normal, real person, which I think is important in a setting full of Gundams and Komaedas and Tsumikis; he helps to keep the whole game grounded. It's a lot easier to cope with all the ridiculously over-the-top characters in this cast when Hinata's around to cut through their absurdity with his sarcasm.
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orenronen posted:After spending some more time not understanding what Sonia was saying, I returned to my room. I'm starting to like Sonia a lot more.  orenronen posted:Spain-zaka is something Hinata probably does know about, at least if he's from the Tokyo area. It's a short slope near Shibuya station famous for its trendy shops and restaurants. It was there back in 1988 and it's still a popular teen spot today. Spain-zaka is what "Spain Hill" from The World Ends With You is based on, right? And it's nice of Souda to include us in the Admiral H. Curtiss posted:What about both? I can't see anyone finding fanservice in death. Except Enoshima, of course.
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That's a very groovy article you have there, Hinata-san.
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 It's like a long-haired funyarinpa!I do like that apparently, as a princess, she spent huge amounts of time watching (and rewatching) 80s Japanese police procedural dramas. Now I want to watch one, just to see what they're like... They probably aren't available in English.  Oh, right, the murder mystery... Well, beach trip has a 50-50 chance of being doomed. Perhaps while they're there, someone will go and play that game?
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Are you certain? I thought it was just like Makango in my own country.
I...It is a custom in my country...
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That's surprisingly tame for japan. It sounds exactly what a guy their age would probably do. He didn't even come up with something creepy like spying on them or anything. I wouldn't really call it very anime, it's a time honoured tradition for boys to go to the beach to see girls. Also he could be lying to draw Hinata to a place where he can murder him in a way that looks natural I.e. drowning. Hinata still hasn't told anyone about any of this so people would have no idea he was with him. Plus the beach is remote enough for the body to take quite awhile to find, which gives him plenty of time to produce an alibi that could hold out if it takes awhile for the body to be found, and possibly frame it on someone else. And swimming trunks would make it hard for Hinata to conceal a weapon...but all he has to do is stash one there beforehand and then get Hinata while his back is turned...uh maybe this isn't such a good idea Hinata. And if there's going to be a beach party then why haven't we seen any sign of it? They had to have met up at least once, as well as all stock up on supplies, and it seems like this would be suspicious enough for someone to notice. And conveniently it's a story that's impossible for Hinata to verify. The other boys wouldn't know about it and Hinata can't go confirm it with one of the girls because they'd be pissed at him. Zeron fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Jun 19, 2013 |
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If there is a murder in the next update - and seeing as everyone has been lulled into a false sense of security again, it would be the perfect time - the fact the party was girl's only is probably gonna be the key factor in the case. So i'm guessing the victim and the killer, or at least the red herring/first suspect, will both be female. As for Sonia, I can't help but imagine if this game got localized she would be obsessed with old sitcoms instead. For those of you that watch Retsupurae, imagine a female BillyMC.
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The_White_Crane posted:
Well she does bring up a very valid point: popular culture is basically a mirror of what a nation is experiencing in economics, politics, etc. It's actually a pretty great way to emphasize her authoritative position. E: of course, this all falls apart when you realize that she hasn't been seen talking about any current forms of media. But it's still the thought that counts, right?
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I actually feel like the subjects of Sonia's obsessions are believable, given that you never know what exported shows would be popular somewhere else. It even makes sense that since Japan isn't exporting every drat show they make to other countries, something random like a couple of cop-dramas would be popular in Europeland decades after they were canceled. Hell, Dragonball/Z and Sailor Moon got huge in the U.S. nearly *ten years* after their creation, and the original Power Rangers used year old + footage for the first seasons. I can't remember where I read this, but the Dungeons and Dragons cartoon (yes, there was one) was *really* popular in South America well after its run in the earliest of the eighties.
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How does Hinata not know what the Bubble Period was? Japan still hasn't recovered from that crash properly, or at least, its affects are still felt. Anyways, I liked Sonia's events much more than I thought I would. I was afraid we'd see more of her weird obsession with serial killers, but I guess there's no way we'd see that so soon, given that's more of a main plot device a free-time event wouldn't spoil.
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Zeron posted:And if there's going to be a beach party then why haven't we seen any sign of it? Actually, we kind of have. Or rather, we've heard about it before... orenronen posted:
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Uyu... Good morning...
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Well now you've got me all excited.  It is kind of weird Hinata doesn't know about the bubble years; I wonder how topical the history/social studies books in Japan are.
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Zeron posted:That's surprisingly tame for japan. It sounds exactly what a guy their age would probably do. He didn't even come up with something creepy like spying on them or anything. I wouldn't really call it very anime, it's a time honoured tradition for boys to go to the beach to see girls. Yeah, I think people are seriously overreacting to this plan. It's not like he's suggesting spying on them changing or anything, he's just suggesting 'accidentally' running into them at the beach and hanging out with them. Didn't anyone in this thread, back when they were in high school, go somewhere or do something just because they knew a girl they liked was going to be there?
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LordNagash posted:Yeah, I think people are seriously overreacting to this plan. It's not like he's suggesting spying on them changing or anything, he's just suggesting 'accidentally' running into them at the beach and hanging out with them. Didn't anyone in this thread, back when they were in high school, go somewhere or do something just because they knew a girl they liked was going to be there? No, never, that would be creepy. You're creepy.
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LordNagash posted:Yeah, I think people are seriously overreacting to this plan. It's not like he's suggesting spying on them changing or anything, he's just suggesting 'accidentally' running into them at the beach and hanging out with them. Didn't anyone in this thread, back when they were in high school, go somewhere or do something just because they knew a girl they liked was going to be there? While I don't see any huge overraction yet, goons are always going to be outraged over things like this and the word "creepy" will be liberally thrown around in every direction. It's a time-honed tradition at this point. Also that free time event was kind of boring but I suppose that'll happen every now and then. It's pretty much impossible to tell which one's going to be interesting beforehand, which is a shame.
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Yep, Souda really didn't seem like the type to be capable of an evil scheme. Good to know that he was just planning to watch standard anime beach scene fanservice. I also loved that Hinata was still suspicious about the whole thing. Now that Souda mentions it, Hinata really is the only halfway normal guy for him to hang out with, isn't he? I just hope this doesn't end up like the last DR bromance.
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Bifauxnen posted:Yep, Souda really didn't seem like the type to be capable of an evil scheme. Good to know that he was just planning to watch standard anime beach scene fanservice. I also loved that Hinata was still suspicious about the whole thing. Hinata going insane would make the latter half of the game quite interesting. Souda shouldn't be that down on not having many guys to talk to or that seem normal, though. That means that aside from Nidai because of his body, Hinata's the only competition he has for girls in the first place! They'll all flock to Gundam for his hamsters.
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A lot of foreign language learners are in the same boat as Sonia, I think. I know when I was in school learning Japanese, a bunch of our lessons included references to "classic" pop culture that I liked to track down and watch/listen to, but when I went to Japan during college almost no one my age knew what I was talking about. It's probably fair to say Sonia is a little more obsessed than most, but I wouldn't say Hinata is especially dense.
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MadRhetoric posted:Well now you've got me all excited. Well, Hinata did just start high school, so it's possible his middle school/etc classes didn't have time to cover recent history, etc.
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MadRhetoric posted:Well now you've got me all excited. I'm sure it'll all be captivatingly Shemp or whatever.
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Kay Kessler posted:If there is a murder in the next update - and seeing as everyone has been lulled into a false sense of security again, it would be the perfect time - the fact the party was girl's only is probably gonna be the key factor in the case. So i'm guessing the victim and the killer, or at least the red herring/first suspect, will both be female. I don't think that you even need to stray that far. She could be a Starsky and Hutch fan and have the same effect.
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King Christmas posted:I don't usually mind the fanservice too much but I really hope they don't use it as evidence this time. I think the only reason they made fanservice evidence in the first case is SOLELY because the culprit was Hanamura. The most backwards rear end foreshadowing ever.
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Green Intern posted:I'm expecting this beach fiasco to end in murder, hopefully before anything too creepy happens. Honestly, at this point it would only be surprising if there's beach party and it's just an ordinary disaster. Someone loses their beach umbrella to the wind, someone else shreds their leg open with a jagged piece of rock (okay, Mikan had fun with that, but nobody else), there's a hive of ants that eat the food, due to the combination of a hot-springs and an interesting current carrying water straight from the arctic the water is simultaneously too hot and too cold for comfort, the beach-ball catches a flat, there's a sudden out-of-nowhere rainstorm and everybody catches pneumonia.
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Oh god, Souda. For once I find myself hoping for a murder, just to interrupt the inevitable Souda perv-out.
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On the bright side, if it's a murder, at least no one can accuse Hinata of it. Actually, you know what would be interesting? If Hinata and co. discover a body at the beach. (and if Sonia was luring them to the beach to frame them somehow.) Boom, no perv for you, Souda!
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You'd think that for all his genre savvy, Hinata would at least see that this could be a very obvious murder plot on Souda's part. Especially considering that apparently nobody besides Souda and Hinata know about their "plan", and that Hinata has no actual evidence of this upcoming beach party. (Except maybe Tsumiki's offhanded remark about a plan that required a clear sky, but I suppose that could just be a coincidence.) I am really liking Sonia more, too. She gives me strong Starfire vibes. And Hinata is very good at being the sane one in a world of pure anime tropes, which is especially refreshing considering that he's the player character.
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