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Baloogan posted:This isn't a photoshop; and it isn't an optical illusion. That carrier is the Yorktown II. The first round of Essex class carriers, along with the Lexington class, were built to go just as fast in reverse as they could go forward, so that while going in reverse they could actually build up enough speed to launch and recover planes. The idea was to have forward and aft arresting gear so that if either side's gear were destroyed in combat, they could still conduct flight ops. In practice, they were found to be cumbersome, and the bow arresting gear was removed in refits. The plane is a TBF Avenger torpedo bomber. The picture is from shakedown exercises off Hawaii in July 1943.
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grover posted:No, he's using it correctly. F4U was better. Agreeing with grover on this, from my extensive scientific research playing Aces Of The Pacific. I mean the P-38 was cooler but it never really got the crazy high-HP engines the later radial planes got
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grover posted:No, he's using it correctly. F4U was better. See, here's an example of using it incorrectly.
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CommieGIR posted:
Dong plane best plane.
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grover posted:No, he's using it correctly. F4U was better.       
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Sooo loving sexy 
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Koesj posted:It'd be second best coming up against a Sidewinder-armed Super Tucano Well that surely is an unfair comparison
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:The chemlights are for the after-range rave and you're rolling super hard. Opsec bro, holy poo poo. First they took my spice, now they're coming for my designer molly.
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 Painted below the canopy of a retired F-16 the AF dragged out to Dayton Air Show today. It's not the same without the big gray birds around; the airport authority actually had a bunch of ground support equipment (including a snowplow) on display near the entrance, as if to make up for the lack of everything that's usually there. But don't worry, we need those F-35's! VVV I didn't see it, thankfully. I did photograph the aircraft that crashed while it was being towed on the ground, though, which is a weird feeling. Plastic_Gargoyle fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Jun 22, 2013 |
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The Dayton Air Show also had a pilot ram himself and a wingwalker into the ground today.
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Fallom posted:The Dayton Air Show also had a pilot ram himself and a wingwalker into the ground today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G9SuEufFDs
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Jun 22, 2013 23:35
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goddamn  From my totally uneducated view, looks like it yawed left right into the ground. Too much/accidental rudder input?
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Looked to me like he lost elevator control.
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I'm just glad air shows in America can't fly over the crowds.
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Jun 23, 2013 03:13
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SITTING ON TOP OF THE WORLD!
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gohuskies posted:That carrier is the Yorktown II. The first round of Essex class carriers, along with the Lexington class, were built to go just as fast in reverse as they could go forward, so that while going in reverse they could actually build up enough speed to launch and recover planes. The idea was to have forward and aft arresting gear so that if either side's gear were destroyed in combat, they could still conduct flight ops. In practice, they were found to be cumbersome, and the bow arresting gear was removed in refits. This man here knows his carriers.
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Godholio posted:Looked to me like he lost elevator control. Wingtip stalled.
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Most gorgeous F4 evar:  F4-U by Phanatic, on Flickr  Corsair by Phanatic, on Flickr  Slackasses by Phanatic, on Flickr Bonus SB2C:  SB2C by Phanatic, on Flickr
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I know as a lowly civilian I'm not really in a position to talk, but why are people fixing bayonets here? Is this actually a thing done by people these days? I seem to recall all the people from combat units talking about how bayonets are never actually used; is this an indication that the people in the photo are NG/Reserves or something?
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LimburgLimbo posted:I know as a lowly civilian I'm not really in a position to talk, but why are people fixing bayonets here? Is this actually a thing done by people these days? I seem to recall all the people from combat units talking about how bayonets are never actually used; is this an indication that the people in the photo are NG/Reserves or something? They are Marines, so 
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Carteret posted:They are Marines, so Cursory googling seems to indicate that Marines fix bayonets any drat chance they get.
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LimburgLimbo posted:I know as a lowly civilian I'm not really in a position to talk, but why are people fixing bayonets here? Is this actually a thing done by people these days? I seem to recall all the people from combat units talking about how bayonets are never actually used; is this an indication that the people in the photo are NG/Reserves or something? Because Marines. The following story is totally anecdotal, but I 90% believe it based on the source. This guy was in an observation post overlooking part of Fallujah the day one of the major Phantom Fury offensives was going to kick off. He scopes out the insurgent side, and most of the fighters he can see have stopped to prostrate themselves for the sunset prayer. He looks over at the Marine lines, where riflemen are sharpening & affixing bayonets, and using their camo paint kits to draw skulls on their faces. The evening air carries him the distinctive strains of Drowning Pool. H-hour comes and goes, and minutes after the first casualty reports begin to filter in. The first half-dozen or so? Guys who tripped and fell, either landing on their own bayonets or stabbing the guy in front of them in the stack.
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LimburgLimbo posted:I know as a lowly civilian I'm not really in a position to talk, but why are people fixing bayonets here? Is this actually a thing done by people these days? I seem to recall all the people from combat units talking about how bayonets are never actually used; is this an indication that the people in the photo are NG/Reserves or something? Carteret posted:They are Marines, so hailthefish posted:Cursory googling seems to indicate that Marines fix bayonets any drat chance they get. In my MARINE CORPS EXPERIENCE the first thing you do upon arriving in Iraq or Afghanistan is collect up all of the bayonets into a sea bag, throw a lock on it, and forget about them until you land back in the USA and have to get accountability for gear. edit: With that said, those are forest-themed interceptors so that's probably from '03 or '04 . Before my time.
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I was gonna say OIF 1 because of the Woodland, but didn't want to sound retarded. Also doubted myself because it looks like they are wearing ACH's. Turns out, they are LWH's. late 2004 and up. CLOSE ENOUGH.
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I heard a rumor bayonet training has been dropped from basic. T/F? And also that USMC officers are expected to buy swords, but never trained to use them.
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grover posted:I heard a rumor bayonet training has been dropped from basic. T/F? I know the first one is false, new-ish recruits out here still talk about bayonet and pugil stuff. And the second one seems like it's true and it's kind of disappointing. Manual of arms for swords looks cool as poo poo.
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grover posted:I heard a rumor bayonet training has been dropped from basic. T/F? I thought it was that the Army stopped bayone training, but the Marines kept it because blood makes the grass grow green oorah semper fi et cetera
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grover posted:And also that USMC officers are expected to buy swords, but never trained to use them. This is true. Other services have their own swords (well, the AF officer saber is actually the same as the Army's, even though nobody knows it) but don't bother even mentioning it outside honor guard stuff.
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I'm pretty sure that dress uniform swords aren't at all capable of being used in actual combat without breaking.
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I'd really like one that would be combat ready.
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Wasabi the J posted:I'd really like one that would be combat ready. This seems applicable to this conversation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dg3Us9ld2g
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 System Metternich posted:Training bikes on a viewing platforms in the Golan heights. Apparently tourists love to visit the former Israeli bunker (left; the soldier is just a dummy) and then work out for a bit. On the right you can see far into Syria; the smoke comes from the fighting.
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Apparently we (Danish army) might be going to the Golan heights sometime soon now that the Austrians are pulling out.
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-Anders posted:Apparently we (Danish army) might be going to the Golan heights sometime soon now that the Austrians are pulling out. Take pictures? 
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Wasabi the J posted:I'd really like one that would be combat ready. Awful idea. The only times I've used my sword were in sword arches at friends' weddings and we are all so ungamely with them that we'd have killed ourselves if those fuckers were sharp
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Stultus Maximus posted:I'm pretty sure that dress uniform swords aren't at all capable of being used in actual combat without breaking. The Model 1902 (army officer saber) was designed as the combat replacement for the Model 1860 (which was considered a poor design for cavalry), so as long as they're still manufactured properly they should be fine. I know Marlow White uses quality steel, but I've never seen one of theirs disassembled...I'd like to think they're not cheap fucks and producing swords with rat-tail tangs.
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Wasabi the J posted:I know the first one is false, new-ish recruits out here still talk about bayonet and pugil stuff. I can confirm that there is NO bayonet training in BCT, at least at Ft. Jackson. I finished BCT in January, and although we did pugil sticks, it was just "beat the poo poo out of the other guy until we stay stop."
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Ziji posted:I can confirm that there is NO bayonet training in BCT, at least at Ft. Jackson. I finished BCT in January, and although we did pugil sticks, it was just "beat the poo poo out of the other guy until we stay stop." Bayonet training Tl;dr: Put it on the shooty end of your rifle. Stab them with the pointy bit.
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