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Macintyre
May 6, 2006
Slow Rider

Will Styles posted:

What kind of NDRs do you get? Default/Anonymous have at least contributor (write items)? If someone is listed explicitly, they have at least contributor (write items)?

NDR:
Delivery has failed to these recipients or groups:

INVOICES (INVOICES@XXXX.COM) <mailto:INVOICES@XXXX.COM>
The server has tried to deliver this message, without success, and has stopped trying. Please try sending this message again. If the problem continues, contact your helpdesk.


#550 4.4.7 QUEUE.Expired; message expired ##

quote:

Do you have anonymous permissions specified? You need to make sure they can write to the folder or else it won't let you mail into it externally.

Anonymous & Default are both assigned with Contributor permissions.

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Will Styles
Jan 19, 2005

Macintyre posted:

NDR:
Delivery has failed to these recipients or groups:

INVOICES (INVOICES@XXXX.COM) <mailto:INVOICES@XXXX.COM>
The server has tried to deliver this message, without success, and has stopped trying. Please try sending this message again. If the problem continues, contact your helpdesk.


#550 4.4.7 QUEUE.Expired; message expired ##

Did you migrate from an older version of Exchange?

In ADISEdit look for your public folder database

CN=<PF DB>,CN=Databases,CN=<Your Exchange Admin Group>,CN=Administrative Groups,CN=<Your Org Name>,CN=Microsoft Exchange,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=your,DC=domain,DC=com

And make sure the msExchOwning attributes are set correctly. msExchOwningServer should be set to the server that hosts the DB and msExchOwningPFTree should be set to the PFTree in AD.

msExchOwningPFTree : CN=Public Folders,CN=Folder Hierarchies,CN=<Your Exchange Admin Group>,CN=Administrative Groups,CN=<Your Org Name>,CN=Microsoft Exchange,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=your,DC=domain,DC=com
msExchOwningServer : CN=<Server Hosting PF DB>,CN=Servers,CN=<Your Exchange Admin Group>,CN=Administrative Groups,CN=<Your Org Name>,CN=Microsoft Exchange,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=your,DC=domain,DC=com


quote:

Anonymous & Default are both assigned with Contributor permissions.

Given the NDR I don't think that the issue is permissions related, however if anyone is explicitly listed they need the write items permission in order to send. I've seen someone listed as "reviewer" not be able to send to a public folder even though default/anon were set to contributor.

Hawkline
May 30, 2002

¡La Raza!
Are you public folders on the same server or a different server than the one producing the NDR. If different, did anyone hack up the Default Receive Connector in any way to get something like mail relay to work?

Macintyre
May 6, 2006
Slow Rider

Will Styles posted:

Did you migrate from an older version of Exchange?

In ADISEdit look for your public folder database

CN=<PF DB>,CN=Databases,CN=<Your Exchange Admin Group>,CN=Administrative Groups,CN=<Your Org Name>,CN=Microsoft Exchange,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=your,DC=domain,DC=com

And make sure the msExchOwning attributes are set correctly. msExchOwningServer should be set to the server that hosts the DB and msExchOwningPFTree should be set to the PFTree in AD.

msExchOwningPFTree : CN=Public Folders,CN=Folder Hierarchies,CN=<Your Exchange Admin Group>,CN=Administrative Groups,CN=<Your Org Name>,CN=Microsoft Exchange,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=your,DC=domain,DC=com
msExchOwningServer : CN=<Server Hosting PF DB>,CN=Servers,CN=<Your Exchange Admin Group>,CN=Administrative Groups,CN=<Your Org Name>,CN=Microsoft Exchange,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=your,DC=domain,DC=com

Yes, we migrated from Exchange 2003 over a year ago.

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When I get to that location, I dont see either msExchOwningServer or PFTree. Unless I am in the wrong spot?

Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/Bm4QAnw.png


quote:

Are you public folders on the same server or a different server than the one producing the NDR. If different, did anyone hack up the Default Receive Connector in any way to get something like mail relay to work?

Same Server. No other issues with mail relay aside from this public folder weirdness.

Will Styles
Jan 19, 2005

Macintyre posted:

Yes, we migrated from Exchange 2003 over a year ago.

Has public folder internal mail not worked at all since you decommissioned the 2003 servers? It's possible, depending on the way the server was decommissioned, that there's still references to the old server in AD.

quote:

When I get to that location, I dont see either msExchOwningServer or PFTree. Unless I am in the wrong spot?

You want to look at the properties on the container, so that would be the CN=Public Folder Database

CISADMIN PRIVILEGE
Aug 15, 2004

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Exchange Online/Hosted Exchange

I'm trying to make plans and budget for next year and looking at the various options. Right now we have 20 users on SBS 2008 and we're running exchange 2007 on the SBS server and Exchange has been relatively solid, but I would like the better OWA of 2010+, along with losing the requirement to worry about backups.

There's also a couple of other limitations to SBS which I'd like to eliminate.

I do have licenses/cals for SBS 2011, and that does get me up to exchange 2010 however it seems like a lot of work to do the upgrade to another limited platform.

I could get all new licenses and CALs for Server 2012 and Exchange 2013, but that leaves annoying backup and admin issues, so I think ideally I would go with some form of hosted Exchange. I'm not sure if the MS version is best or I should go with a third party exchange hosting type deal. I would edge towards the MS version though.

Are there any caveats I should consider before going the MS route?

goobernoodles
May 28, 2011

Wayne Leonard Kirby.

Orioles Magician.
Migrated from Exchange 2003 -> 2010 migration last fall. I'm noticing that the GAL is not updating for a lot of users frequently with Outlook 2007 and 2010. OWA is fine. It can be fixed by going into appdata and deleting .oab files. What should I check?

CISADMIN PRIVILEGE
Aug 15, 2004

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Another Hosted exchange question. We also have a bunch of mailboxes which are shared things like info@fuckinorg.com etc. They pretty much need to be separate mailboxes I assume these would be billed as well.

theperminator
Sep 16, 2009

by Smythe
Fun Shoe
I've got a customer with a Catch-all set up, it picks up all mail to the domain. but the problem is I can't seem to find where it is configured.
There are no Journal rules or Transport rules configured for this, anyone have any ideas?

:edit: Figured it out, the customer had set up forwarding on each mailbox to go to the catchall mailbox.


keygen and kel posted:

Hosted exchange questions

If you move to hosted exchange 2010 you won't be able to use Public Folders.

And yeah, you will indeed be paying per mailbox regardless of what they're used for.

theperminator fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Jun 30, 2013

KS
Jun 10, 2003
Outrageous Lumpwad
Due to some fun, we have had litigation hold turned on organization-wide for about a year and a half now, and database sizes are getting pretty out of hand. I recently got word that our policy going forward is going to be infinite retention for all email. That means an archiving solution.

We'd need the ability to archive all received and sent email indefinitely, with no user intervention or control necessary. We have enterprise CALs that we bought for the litigation hold feature, which I believe entitles us to use archiving as well. Is the built in archiving solution good enough to do what we need? Any third party recommendations?

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

KS posted:

Due to some fun, we have had litigation hold turned on organization-wide for about a year and a half now, and database sizes are getting pretty out of hand. I recently got word that our policy going forward is going to be infinite retention for all email. That means an archiving solution.

We'd need the ability to archive all received and sent email indefinitely, with no user intervention or control necessary. We have enterprise CALs that we bought for the litigation hold feature, which I believe entitles us to use archiving as well. Is the built in archiving solution good enough to do what we need? Any third party recommendations?
It depends. The built-in archiving is fine for exactly that -- retention of everything all the time -- but if you want something to actually accelerate e-discovery you'll want to look at something like Enterprise Vault.

Lord Dudeguy
Sep 17, 2006
[Insert good English here]

KS posted:

Due to some fun, we have had litigation hold turned on organization-wide for about a year and a half now, and database sizes are getting pretty out of hand. I recently got word that our policy going forward is going to be infinite retention for all email. That means an archiving solution.

We'd need the ability to archive all received and sent email indefinitely, with no user intervention or control necessary. We have enterprise CALs that we bought for the litigation hold feature, which I believe entitles us to use archiving as well. Is the built in archiving solution good enough to do what we need? Any third party recommendations?

We use GWAVA Retain. It was a carry-over from our Groupwise environment. I wouldn't recommend it. It does the job, and nothing more. Their support is awful (responsive, but ignorant).


Does anyone have any experience with merging organizations? We're about to snag another company and I've been tasked with assimilating their Exchange 2010 environment into ours. They have a CAS and a DAG. We have all our roles on one server (VMWare/Neverfail for our redundancy/HA).

It couldn't possibly be as easy as grabbing their database file and plugging it in here, could it?

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Lord Dudeguy posted:

It couldn't possibly be as easy as grabbing their database file and plugging it in here, could it?
Heavens no. Here's a TechNet blog:

http://blogs.technet.com/b/exchange/archive/2010/08/10/3410619.aspx

Lord Dudeguy
Sep 17, 2006
[Insert good English here]

Misogynist posted:

Heavens no.

Gah! It almost looks easier to export all mailboxes to PST and re-import on the receiving side with new mailboxes/accounts.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Check out GFI Mail Archiver.

Mierdaan
Sep 14, 2004

Pillbug

KS posted:

We'd need the ability to archive all received and sent email indefinitely, with no user intervention or control necessary. We have enterprise CALs that we bought for the litigation hold feature, which I believe entitles us to use archiving as well. Is the built in archiving solution good enough to do what we need? Any third party recommendations?

We use GFI MailArchiver, and I can say that it's very infrequently the worst part of my day. I'm fairly certain that counts as a glowing recommendation in the email archive software space.

theperminator
Sep 16, 2009

by Smythe
Fun Shoe
Has anyone here deployed a Multi-tenant Exchange 2013 cluster yet?

Is it possible to do without a third-party web panel or anything like that? I'm currently using 2010 with the /hosted mode.

CISADMIN PRIVILEGE
Aug 15, 2004

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campaigns to drive
demand and increase
brand engagement
across web, mobile,
and social touchpoints,
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theperminator posted:

If you move to hosted exchange 2010 you won't be able to use Public Folders.

And yeah, you will indeed be paying per mailbox regardless of what they're used for.

Don't they have exchange 2013 online 2013 now through O365 or something? I think I could probably ditch the stupid public folders in favour of a few mailboxes with shared contacts and calendars or do it with sharepoint which in terms of shared contacts looks far better since you can do metadata. I'm just trying to figure out how much I want in MS's clod and how much locally or at our colo as far as sharepoint goes.

Can i do email forwarding on the exchange online side so i can create an group that forwards from shitfucker@shitdomain.com -> shitfucker@shitdomain.org so it delivers some of the group emails straight to sharepoint hosted by us?

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA
May 29, 2008

gently caress Exchange.

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Jul 5, 2013

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
I'm at the point with my mimecast transition where they're pushing me pretty hard to enable journaling. I'm in the process of eventually moving all of our email to our DR facility where there's a much beefier server and more disk space.

I'm right in thinking journaling on the old machine at this point is a no go, right?

Dans Macabre
Apr 24, 2004


EAT THE EGGS RICOLA posted:

gently caress Exchange.

Calidus
Oct 31, 2011

Stand back I'm going to try science!
So thanks to my boss refusing to buy a uninterrupted power supply and a thunderstorm I am encountering this wonderful bug were the information store refuses to start. This is the same thing that happened to me : http://blogs.technet.com/b/mempson/archive/2008/07/02/exchange-2007-is-failure-oddity.aspx except that I don't have antivirsus running on that machine and that registry key doesn't exist. Any suggestions?

(I think this is going to be a great time to bring up a hosted email solution and an uninterrupted power supply to by boss again)

edit: 3.5 hours later it turns out the old SA never setup w32time

Calidus fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Jul 11, 2013

Got Haggis?
Jul 28, 2002
Great chieftain o' the puddin-race!
I'm running Exchange 2007. Currently we have some PHP scripts that connect to it using IMAP - we have recently discovered that PHPs IMAP functions can't determine the email address alias the email was sent to -it will always only show the default email alias. So for example, if I have both of the email addresses for my account - me@mydomain.com and haggis@mydomain.com whereas me@mydomain.com is the default address, using IMAP, there appears to be no way to tell if emails were sent to haggis@mydomain.com - they will always show up as being from whichever alias is set to default. I looked at the headers in Thunderbird using IMAP and it also only shows the default email address - however in Outlook 2007, it will show the correct alias (haggis@mydomain.com). (as a sidenote, gmail and some other providers will sometimes have the correct email alias in the headers...but hotmail.com won't, so can't depend on that).

So my question is....is there anyway to actually get which email alias the email was sent to? Would it be possible to do something server side on Exchange? I looked at Transport Rules, but there doesn't seem to be any way to determine the actual email alias. I was hoping I could maybe just create a transport rule that looked at the email alias and filtered them to different folders, or something along those lines.

wyoak
Feb 14, 2005

a glass case of emotion

Fallen Rib
Anyone else think it's stupid that Outlook/Exchange still uses the legacyExchangeDN attribute for so much stuff?

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA posted:

gently caress Exchange.

theperminator
Sep 16, 2009

by Smythe
Fun Shoe

Got Haggis? posted:

So my question is....is there anyway to actually get which email alias the email was sent to?

The Delivered-To header will show the actual name of the mailbox, but the To header should reflect the alias it was sent to

Got Haggis?
Jul 28, 2002
Great chieftain o' the puddin-race!

theperminator posted:

The Delivered-To header will show the actual name of the mailbox, but the To header should reflect the alias it was sent to

it definitely doesn't when using IMAP. It shows whatever email address is set as 'default'. It's very annoying.


edit: after researching, apparently microsoft added this "feature" in Exchange 2007 and say that its a feature, not a bug...it actually rewrites IMAP headers....stunning http://www.mail-archive.com/exchange@intm-dl.sparklist.com/msg21844.html

Got Haggis? fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Jul 15, 2013

Stugazi
Mar 1, 2004

Who me, Bitter?
How long do you wait on an Exchange Server to reboot before you power cycle it? It's Exch2007 running on Server 2003.

Also, gently caress Exchange.

Gyshall
Feb 24, 2009

Had a couple of drinks.
Saw a couple of things.
No, gently caress running Exchange 2007 on Server 2003. What the hell man.

Stugazi
Mar 1, 2004

Who me, Bitter?
It was installed almost 7 years ago. Best available at the time. :colbert:

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


In my opinion that has to be one of the biggest selling points of hosted Exchange - some other poor bastard has to deal with the upgrades.

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Caged posted:

In my opinion that has to be one of the biggest selling points of hosted Exchange - some other poor bastard has to deal with the upgrades.
See Briantist's post from a few months ago about the poor bastard with AppRiver who totally hosed up the upgrade and brought the service down for days, during which the company provided the recommendation that if uptime is so important, their impacted customers should just find another hosted Exchange provider.

Dans Macabre
Apr 24, 2004


Please don't use appriver.

Gyshall
Feb 24, 2009

Had a couple of drinks.
Saw a couple of things.
I have a client who has had their OWA/ActiveSync out of comission for two days right now thanks to Rackspace. Hosted Exchange :downs:

Syano
Jul 13, 2005

Stugazi posted:

How long do you wait on an Exchange Server to reboot before you power cycle it? It's Exch2007 running on Server 2003.

Also, gently caress Exchange.

Keep waiting. Takes FOREVER to dismount the info store cleanly.

Picardy Beet
Feb 7, 2006

Singing in the summer.

keygen and kel posted:

Another Hosted exchange question. We also have a bunch of mailboxes which are shared things like info@fuckinorg.com etc. They pretty much need to be separate mailboxes I assume these would be billed as well.

Speaking for Office365, shared mailboxes don't consume license in o365 organisation, so there you won't be billed for them.
The trick is they aren't really put forward... You aren't able to create them by a GUI. At all. You can't create them from the Exchange Management Console of your bridge server if you have one to consolidate your on-site org, or by the web admin portal. You have to do everything with Powershell for creating them. It isn't very complicated, apart maybe for the login.

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

Caged posted:

In my opinion that has to be one of the biggest selling points of hosted Exchange - some other poor bastard has to deal with the upgrades.

We went to BPOS/O365 4 years ago or so and let me say, I don't ever have to think about Exchange and it rocks. The only downside is my Exchange skills are dead, no loving clue about anything past 2003.

theperminator
Sep 16, 2009

by Smythe
Fun Shoe

Gyshall posted:

I have a client who has had their OWA/ActiveSync out of comission for two days right now thanks to Rackspace. Hosted Exchange :downs:

What the hell?

I manage a hosted exchange cluster, if OWA was down for even an hour my boss would be kicking my rear end and I wouldn't be going home until it was fixed.

Not that it matters, O365 is going to kill hosted exchange.

Dans Macabre
Apr 24, 2004


Picardy Beet posted:

Speaking for Office365, shared mailboxes don't consume license in o365 organisation, so there you won't be billed for them.
The trick is they aren't really put forward... You aren't able to create them by a GUI. At all. You can't create them from the Exchange Management Console of your bridge server if you have one to consolidate your on-site org, or by the web admin portal. You have to do everything with Powershell for creating them. It isn't very complicated, apart maybe for the login.

This isn't true as of the latest update. I signed up a client to o365 a few months ago and you can easily create shared mailboxes in the admin interface.

Briantist
Dec 5, 2003

The Professor does not approve of your post.
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NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:

This isn't true as of the latest update. I signed up a client to o365 a few months ago and you can easily create shared mailboxes in the admin interface.
Came here to post about the shared mailboxes. Here's a link in case anyone's wondering:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj966275(v=exchg.150).aspx

And in this one they show you the limits:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/exchange-online-storage-and-recipient-limits.aspx

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carlcarlson
Jun 20, 2008
Have a user that was having trouble tracking down a sent email. It shows up in OWA, but not in Outlook, running cached Exchange mode. The emails she sent before and after show up in Outlook, just not that particular one. I unchecked cached Exchange mode and it showed back up. Should I just delete the .ost and let it rebuild itself and hope it doesn't skip any more emails? The user complains that it's a routine occurrence, although it's the first time I've ever seen it happen. We're running Exchange 2010.

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