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Zedsdeadbaby
Jun 14, 2008

You have been called out, in the ways of old.
Don't get your hopes up, ain't poo poo gonna happen to Murdoch and everyone knows it.

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eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches
Guardian article's up and is more informative than BBC's, if anyone needs to link folks. It's got much more damning quotes and some inflammatory portions of the audio.

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo
He's gonna do it! NewsCorp statement suggests so anyway

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

ukle posted:

Oh happy days!

BBC Breaking News is that the Culture, Media and Sport Committee is recalling Rupert Murdoch to question him about the tape!

BBC article now up -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23239545

After it was revealed that Apple paid almost zero US tax, the CEO was called before Congress, where the representatives (or maybe Senators) took turns kissing his rear end with extraordinary fervor. Please tell me they do things differently in the UK.

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
For tax things have Margaret Hodge on the Public Accounts Committee calling people bastards. I don't know much about this one, but I imagine Keith Vaz or someone will do the same. It's all cold comfort though as very little happens past that.

Kieselguhr Kid
May 16, 2010

WHY USE ONE WORD WHEN SIX FUCKING PARAGRAPHS WILL DO?

(If this post doesn't passive-aggressively lash out at one of the women in Auspol please send the police to do a welfare check.)

Zedsdeadbaby posted:

Don't get your hopes up, ain't poo poo gonna happen to Murdoch and everyone knows it.

I actually wonder how many politicians have personally apologised to Murdoch since this poo poo happened.

ufarn
May 30, 2009

prefect posted:

After it was revealed that Apple paid almost zero US tax, the CEO was called before Congress, where the representatives (or maybe Senators) took turns kissing his rear end with extraordinary fervor. Please tell me they do things differently in the UK.
You should watch the UK hearings. They were quite entertaining.

There's a reason Starbucks suddenly felt an urge to pay their taxes in the UK - and that David Cameron started suggesting companies follow suit.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy
Louise Mensch is telling him not to bother. Thank gently caress she won't be on the Select Committee this time

JoylessJester
Sep 13, 2012

mfcrocker posted:

Louise Mensch is telling him not to bother. Thank gently caress she won't be on the Select Committee this time

The fact that she soft balled him and then went on to be columnist in the Sunday Sun is so Goddamn Transparent.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

JoylessJester posted:

The fact that she soft balled him and then went on to be columnist in the Sunday Sun is so Goddamn Transparent.

A reminder that Tom Watson had a private conversation with her then ~~magically~~ James Murdoch sent the committee a letter addressing every concern in said private conversation.

JoylessJester
Sep 13, 2012

mfcrocker posted:

A reminder that Tom Watson had a private conversation with her then ~~magically~~ James Murdoch sent the committee a letter addressing every concern in said private conversation.

I didn't know/remember that, I take it no one called shenanigans?

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

JoylessJester posted:

I didn't know/remember that, I take it no one called shenanigans?

Watson called shenanigans :swoon: but it hit the Guardian and that's about it.

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
Also remember that the co-founder of her website Menshn is a peadophile. Not that that's relevant to anything, I'm just a big fan of the Luke Bozier story.

hexa
Dec 10, 2004

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom

Mr. Squishy posted:

Also remember that the co-founder of her website Menshn is a peadophile. Not that that's relevant to anything, I'm just a big fan of the Luke Bozier story.

Have you read his book yet? Has anybody?

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
First I've heard of it. Talk about a brass neck, but what else can you do when life presents to you the lemons that you have been growing in your dedicated lemon-orchard?

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




glitchkrieg posted:

Have you read his book yet? Has anybody?

The first chapter is up for free on his website. It's a bit Alan Partridge - and at one point he talks of wanting to throw himself off a building, which he entertainingly describes as something like "hurling himself from a giant concrete phalli".

I can't be bothered to read the rest - 200 pages of a man desperately trying to justify his paedophilia? No thanks.

Stottie Kyek
Apr 26, 2008

fuckin egg in a bun
It's hilariously badly written and the main character really hates women for some reason. He talks about his contempt for rich, successful women with their hair "perfectly quaffed". It gave me the mental picture of a lady in a suit sooking down a wig like it was spaghetti, which probably isn't what he was going for.

edit: just from the first chapter, I couldn't be arsed with any more than that or giving him money

Stottie Kyek fucked around with this message at 13:07 on Jul 10, 2013

hexa
Dec 10, 2004

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom

Mr. Flunchy posted:

The first chapter is up for free on his website. It's a bit Alan Partridge - and at one point he talks of wanting to throw himself off a building, which he entertainingly describes as something like "hurling himself from a giant concrete phalli".

I can't be bothered to read the rest - 200 pages of a man desperately trying to justify his paedophilia? No thanks.

Oh I was aware of it because you posted it in either this or the UK thread. I have a kind of morbid curiosity about the book but wouldn't want to actually pay money for it - it's not the type of thing I'd want associated with any of my bank accounts, if you see what I mean.

The Dark Project
Jun 25, 2007

Give it to me straight...

Stottie Kyek posted:

It's hilariously badly written and the main character really hates women for some reason. He talks about his contempt for rich, successful women with their hair "perfectly quaffed". It gave me the mental picture of a lady in a suit sooking down a wig like it was spaghetti, which probably isn't what he was going for.


So he used quaffed instead of coiffed? Oh dear. Between him and Mensch I am sure a lot of other writers don't need to worry about being out-done on the literary front.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Stottie Kyek posted:

It's hilariously badly written and the main character really hates women for some reason. He talks about his contempt for rich, successful women
Like his former business partner? That must have made for some awkward meetings.

Puntification
Nov 4, 2009

Black Orthodontromancy
The most British Magic

Fun Shoe

Mr. Flunchy posted:

The first chapter is up for free on his website. It's a bit Alan Partridge - and at one point he talks of wanting to throw himself off a building, which he entertainingly describes as something like "hurling himself from a giant concrete phalli".

I can't be bothered to read the rest - 200 pages of a man desperately trying to justify his paedophilia? No thanks.

I think the first chapter is more than enough, the three paragraphs posted in the UKMT were enough for me to be honest, after all it's not going to magically turn into Dostoevsky in the remaining chapters is it?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Puntification posted:

I think the first chapter is more than enough, the three paragraphs posted in the UKMT were enough for me to be honest, after all it's not going to magically turn into Dostoevsky in the remaining chapters is it?

Maybe Nabokov, though.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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Okay, so what is the story here, I looked up the chap but all I could find was one, very arse covering, guardian interview in which he basically says "not only were they put their by dedicated internet hackers, but just because I have looked for and found pictures of barely legal girls arousing doesn't mean I am a paedophile, also I accepted this caution as a legal thing but I am totally not looking for under-age girl pictures on the internet".

I don't get it at all.

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
He was a tory web guru who hadn't registered lukebozier.com. Some wag noticed this, regged it for him, and put up a short message calling him a twit. Bozier noticed this, lawyered up, and nameless wag posted the legal threats up there too. Months passed, and then lukebozier.com posted a fairly compelling narrative which was pulled from hacked emails detailing Bozier's posts on a paid-for child pornography forum and his craigslist solicitations which were equally dodgy. Those are gone now, but that's what the caution's about, and why he and Mensch are no longer on speaking terms.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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Mr. Squishy posted:

He was a tory web guru who hadn't registered lukebozier.com. Some wag noticed this, regged it for him, and put up a short message calling him a twit. Bozier noticed this, lawyered up, and nameless wag posted the legal threats up there too. Months passed, and then lukebozier.com posted a fairly compelling narrative which was pulled from hacked emails detailing Bozier's posts on a paid-for child pornography forum and his craigslist solicitations which were equally dodgy. Those are gone now, but that's what the caution's about, and why he and Mensch are no longer on speaking terms.

poo poo The Bed. That suddenly makes this make a whole load more sense and would explain the caution over the "I occasionally accidentally found people who are legal age attractive" thing. But why wasn't this mentioned in the Guardian? I mean I know it is from hacked sources but seriously? Jesus.

Josef bugman fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Jul 10, 2013

Puntification
Nov 4, 2009

Black Orthodontromancy
The most British Magic

Fun Shoe

Mr. Squishy posted:

He was a tory web guru who hadn't registered lukebozier.com. Some wag noticed this, regged it for him, and put up a short message calling him a twit. Bozier noticed this, lawyered up, and nameless wag posted the legal threats up there too. Months passed, and then lukebozier.com posted a fairly compelling narrative which was pulled from hacked emails detailing Bozier's posts on a paid-for child pornography forum and his craigslist solicitations which were equally dodgy. Those are gone now, but that's what the caution's about, and why he and Mensch are no longer on speaking terms.

New Labour web guru but same difference.

\/\/\/ Managed to miss that apologies.

Puntification fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Jul 11, 2013

cloudchamber
Aug 6, 2010

You know what the Ukraine is? It's a sitting duck. A road apple, Newman. The Ukraine is weak. It's feeble. I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine
He made a big deal out of defecting to the Tory party before launching his social networking site with Mensch.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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cloudchamber posted:

He made a big deal out of defecting to the Tory party before launching his social networking site with Mensch.

So this is yet another Tory sex scandal? Fantastic.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Josef bugman posted:

Okay, so what is the story here, I looked up the chap but all I could find was one, very arse covering, guardian interview in which he basically says "not only were they put their by dedicated internet hackers, but just because I have looked for and found pictures of barely legal girls arousing doesn't mean I am a paedophile, also I accepted this caution as a legal thing but I am totally not looking for under-age girl pictures on the internet".

I don't get it at all.

The interesting thing is that the hacked emails would probably not have been sufficient to get the search warrant that discovered the illegal content on his hard drive (fruit of a poisoned tree and all that) - the gossip goes that after the hacked emails were leaked he rang Mensch and confessed all, and it was actually she who rung the police and made a report, although she's officially denied that version of events.

Of course this might be ex post facto arse covering by Mensch, spreading the rumour but officially denying it to give it some more veracity, but the point is there's a significant missing piece between his version of events, the actual verifiable facts, and what's legally possible/likely. (One other possible explanation is that he actually had something even shadier going on - he was certainly paying out a lot of money to an escorting website - and instead turned himself in for something which he knew would be juicy enough to keep people off the scent, but wouldn't end up with prison time)

e: Oops ignore that, Mensch did admit reporting him to the police, so some small amount of kudos for that.

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Josef bugman
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Wow, so why doesn't the Gaurdian article mention that the guy has basically admitted to being interested in kids? I mean, alright, he isn't a child abuser (that we know of) but surely he should at least be in all of the therapy at the moment.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

goddamnedtwisto posted:

e: Oops ignore that, Mensch did admit reporting him to the police, so some small amount of kudos for that.

I'm tempted to see it more as a cynical PR move, seeing as she was publicly connected to him. Keep that Mensch brand clean!

Stottie Kyek
Apr 26, 2008

fuckin egg in a bun

Josef bugman posted:

Wow, so why doesn't the Gaurdian article mention that the guy has basically admitted to being interested in kids? I mean, alright, he isn't a child abuser (that we know of) but surely he should at least be in all of the therapy at the moment.

They had Julian Assange write a whole load of conspiracy theory wank for them this week, with no mention of the rape charges he even admitted to (but says wasn't "really" rape), and they love everything Roman Polanski directs, again with no mention of him raping a kid. The Guardian has a pretty strange attitude to sexual abuse, they often have articles on feminist issues sharing space with articles apologising for or idolising abusers. It's like they're against it as a concept, but when it actually happens they don't mind.

Zombywuf
Mar 29, 2008

Stottie Kyek posted:

They had Julian Assange write a whole load of conspiracy theory wank for them this week, with no mention of the rape charges he even admitted to (but says wasn't "really" rape)

You do know that this isn't true right?

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
I thought Assange and the Graun had a falling out (and not over the alleged rape). Good to see they've kissed and made up.

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

Zombywuf posted:

You do know that this isn't true right?

He came pretty close with those "Saudi Arabi of feminism" comments.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Josef bugman posted:

Wow, so why doesn't the Gaurdian article mention that the guy has basically admitted to being interested in kids? I mean, alright, he isn't a child abuser (that we know of) but surely he should at least be in all of the therapy at the moment.

Quick answer - lawyers.

Longer answer - as he has no particular access to children and nobody seems to be accusing him of actually touching a child, and given limited Police resources, the caution (and his very public humiliation) is probably best all round.

Having said that I had another quick look through the hacked emails (I'll admit, having closed the window at the cock shots previously, to have just gone on second-hand accounts of what was in them) he made several posts appreciating sets from Russian modelling sites whose models were normally below the age of 10. As weak as the "well technically it's ephepophilia and natural" Reddit bullshit defence that he's been making is, that puts it in a very different light IMO.

Stottie Kyek
Apr 26, 2008

fuckin egg in a bun
If it makes you feel any better, I don't think that was actually his cock, given that he said in his creepy Craigslist messages he was uncircumcised and it was a photo of a circed one.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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So, let me get this straight, he is looking at pictures of underage (9 or below? What in the gently caress) girls and then sending them pictures of a penis that isn't even his?

The internet is so loving weird.

Iohannes
Aug 17, 2004

FREEEEEEEEEDOM

Josef bugman posted:

So, let me get this straight, he is looking at pictures of underage (9 or below? What in the gently caress) girls and then sending them pictures of a penis that isn't even his?

The internet is so loving weird.

I don't think he was sending them pictures. I think the underage girls whose photos he was "appreciating" are probably over 18 now because I think, and I haven't got the emails in front of me to check, Bozier was referring to pictures that were shot by a couple of Ukrainian agencies. Agencies that were shut down in a relatively famous case* back in the beginning of the 00s.

* I say relatively famous because it made a little bit of the news outside of the Ukraine because it involved children, because all the parents refused to press charges, and because the photos are softcore so still surface from time to time in collections of people who rationalise it as no worse than David Hamilton or Sally Mann, ignoring entirely the difference in raison d'etre.

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ultrabindu
Jan 28, 2009
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...rs-8718049.html

This popped up this morning. Any ideas who's tied up in this? What precisely does "formally classified" mean?

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