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Devour
Dec 18, 2009

by angerbeet

Rousimar Pauladeen posted:

For those of you who loathe Bill Maher or just like to see audiences boo his lovely jokes he decided to do George Zimmerman material on Letterman last night. It went about as well as you expect.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-mahers-zimmerman-jokes-draw-series-of-boos-from-david-letterman-crowd-2/
:stonklol: If he seriously devotes his entire show tonight covering the Zimmerman Verdict with these stupid jokes then it's going to be a long show. The part where Letterman looked at his watch was loving perfect, well done sir.

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Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Devour posted:

:stonklol: If he seriously devotes his entire show tonight covering the Zimmerman Verdict with these stupid jokes then it's going to be a long show. The part where Letterman looked at his watch was loving perfect, well done sir.

The context is a lot different if you watch the whole interview. He actually went over pretty well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtPMTJnpGyU

I hope tonight's nothing but lame Zimmerman jokes, leading to the non-Grover Norquist conservative guest losing their poo poo trying to defend a murderer.

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

comes along bort posted:

The context is a lot different if you watch the whole interview. He actually went over pretty well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtPMTJnpGyU

I hope tonight's nothing but lame Zimmerman jokes, leading to the non-Grover Norquist conservative guest losing their poo poo trying to defend a murderer.

Over/under on Norquist defending Zimmerman? Just to close the shithead loop?

ExiledTinkerer
Nov 4, 2009

HipGnosis posted:

Over/under on Norquist defending Zimmerman? Just to close the shithead loop?

"Look what happens when a man is driven into a desperate corner by years of government earnings and investments theft taxation undermining his aims to better himself for the good of his community and..." then our heads explode or something.

Grover just needs to sit there with a deer in headlights look for most of the episode and we'll all survive the night, drinking games or no.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

HipGnosis posted:

Over/under on Norquist defending Zimmerman? Just to close the shithead loop?

Norquist is a single issue guy. His wife is a Palestinian Muslim. Maybe he'll say something, but I doubt it.

Now Connie Mack, he'll definitely show his rear end.

e: And I stand corrected. Norquist is the one to trot out made-up stats. Not related to taxes.

Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Jul 20, 2013

ExiledTinkerer
Nov 4, 2009
Yeah, even I wouldn't have guessed he'd try to dovetail the Martin case with, of all things, damned school vouchers.

Panel was terrible this week with that lady trying to carry it for awhile, but ultimately giving up when she saw zero chance of making meaningful headway with that pair of idiots.

Devour
Dec 18, 2009

by angerbeet
:lol::lol: The look on the faces of those two conservatives when Dan Savage was talking about homosexuality was loving priceless. I was waiting for Maher to say something about it, and he did!

TLG James
Jun 5, 2000

Questing ain't easy
Dan Savage kicked some rear end on the show.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
If people could chose their own schools wouldn't white people just chose schools with the least amount of black people?

amaranthine
Aug 27, 2009
I AM A TERRIBLE HUMAN BEING

punk rebel ecks posted:

If people could chose their own schools wouldn't white people just chose schools with the least amount of black people?

They'd choose the "best" schools based on academics/sports/whatever, but this would have essentially the same effect barring some sort of affirmative action program for these schools.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

punk rebel ecks posted:

If people could chose their own schools wouldn't white people just chose schools with the least amount of black people?

Yes. They're called "neighborhood schools". People run for school board elections specifically on that issue.

Michael Scott
Jan 3, 2010

by zen death robot
I thought Maher was needlessly vulgar in the pursuit of making some easy laughs with Dan Savage. I guess it was expected with Savage. It made that congressman visibly uncomfortable, though. I don't care about making Grover Norquist uncomfortable, but you've gotta have some decorum, even understanding Maher's oft-stated excuse that it's a 'comedy show.' This is a common criticism of Bill Maher that I have heard from several people: when he has the opportunity to seriously interview influential guests about important issues, he often squanders that opportunity with vulgarity and immaturity..

By the end, the congressman was literally voicing his regret for agreeing to come on the show, thinly veiling his regrets as jokes.

tyler is a joke
Apr 28, 2013

That former Congressman has "quietly" voted against everything from domestic partnership benefits to LGBT hate crime legislation. He deserves to be made uncomfortable. He doesn't regret going on the show because he's a media hound. That's is what he does.

We can talk about straight sex all the time but gay sex comes up and suddenly it's too vulgar?

Michael Scott
Jan 3, 2010

by zen death robot

tyler is a joke posted:

That former Congressman has "quietly" voted against everything from domestic partnership benefits to LGBT hate crime legislation. He deserves to be made uncomfortable. He doesn't regret going on the show because he's a media hound. That's is what he does.

We can talk about straight sex all the time but gay sex comes up and suddenly it's too vulgar?

Talking in great detail about one's sex life isn't often appreciated in discussions among adult strangers. The other guests didn't come there to have that discussion, the segment was juvenile and didn't seem appropriate for the context. I guess I was expecting a more serious treatment of issues, despite how the show often turns out.

Bill also didn't attempt to question why the conservatives were disgusted by Savage's descriptions, he just made a joke about it. He also didn't ask Connie Mack about his position on LGBT at all, even after presumably reading the same stuff in that link you posted.

Michael Scott fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Jul 21, 2013

Alice Liddell
Sep 14, 2004

I want to forget!
Who would choose to be alone, imprisoned by their broken memories?
Interjecting humor into the serious discussions is the only thing that makes them bearable. You are to puritanical for your own good Michael Scott.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Michael Scott posted:


Bill also didn't attempt to question why the conservatives were disgusted by Savage's descriptions, he just made a joke about it. He also didn't ask Connie Mack about his position on LGBT at all, even after presumably reading the same stuff in that link you posted.

He probably didn't ask because the entirety of reasoning behind anti-lgbt politics is well known and understood at this point, and there's no need to engage with those people on that level.

tyler is a joke
Apr 28, 2013

Michael Scott posted:

Talking in great detail about one's sex life isn't often appreciated in discussions among adult strangers. The other guests didn't come there to have that discussion, the segment was juvenile and didn't seem appropriate for the context. I guess I was expecting a more serious treatment of issues, despite how the show often turns out.

Bill also didn't attempt to question why the conservatives were disgusted by Savage's descriptions, he just made a joke about it. He also didn't ask Connie Mack about his position on LGBT at all, even after presumably reading the same stuff in that link you posted.

Yes how dare a man made famous for writing a humorous and vulgarly detailed sex column about his life, a man who once engineered the internet so that when you google Santorum it tells you it's the frothy mix of semen and fecal matter that results from anal sex, how dare he come onto a comedy-news-panel show and be funny and vulgar about his sex life in the context of a discussion of Human Rights. Why, this wasn't expected at all!

But seriously folks, who gives two flying fucks why Grover Norquist and Connie Mack were disgusted by Dan Savage? They are both horrible human beings and Connie Mack is a non-factor in American politics. Their anti-gay opinions should be treated like what they are: vulgar and quaint. No one should give them the opportunity to express those opinions because they're loving dumb.

Their disgust at sex was the only thing that was juvenile.

Devour
Dec 18, 2009

by angerbeet

tyler is a joke posted:

Yes how dare a man made famous for writing a humorous and vulgarly detailed sex column about his life, a man who once engineered the internet so that when you google Santorum it tells you it's the frothy mix of semen and fecal matter that results from anal sex, how dare he come onto a comedy-news-panel show and be funny and vulgar about his sex life in the context of a discussion of Human Rights. Why, this wasn't expected at all!
:laffo: Oh my dear loving God that's beautiful. I never knew this, I just googled "Santorum" and it's the fourth result down.

richardfun
Aug 10, 2008

Twenty years? It's no wonder I'm so hungry. Do you have anything to eat?

Devour posted:

:laffo: Oh my dear loving God that's beautiful. I never knew this, I just googled "Santorum" and it's the fourth result down.

It used to be the first :)

Radio Nowhere
Jan 8, 2010

richardfun posted:

It used to be the first :)

I guess the more disgusting Santorum is first now.

richardfun
Aug 10, 2008

Twenty years? It's no wonder I'm so hungry. Do you have anything to eat?

Radio Nowhere posted:

I guess the more disgusting Santorum is first now.

Oh, well done :golfclap:

TLG James
Jun 5, 2000

Questing ain't easy

Radio Nowhere posted:

I guess the more disgusting Santorum is first now.

How did you guys missed when Santorum blamed google for it, and saying if it was Obama it would have been removed.

Devour
Dec 18, 2009

by angerbeet

TLG James posted:

How did you guys missed when Santorum blamed google for it, and saying if it was Obama it would have been removed.
I guess I missed it then. :( Information flies by pretty fast these days.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

richardfun posted:

It used to be the first :)

It really took off when Colbert turned his dogs loose. I'm surprised anyone missed it.

Devour
Dec 18, 2009

by angerbeet

Bill Maher posted:

Explain to me how a book that’s written by God who’s perfect has so much – it’s pro-slavery, pro-polygamy, it’s homophobic. Yeah, God in the Old Testament is a psychotic mass-murderer. You know, this, I mean, there’s so many things in it. And I always say to my religious friends, you know, if a pool had even one turd in it, would you jump in?
I got a pretty good laugh from that part. I also liked the part how the guy on the panel said that people can take the exact same specific verse from the bible and use it to justify two completely separate points of view.

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

Am not a big fan of Eliot Spitzer, but one reason I like this show is that it has people I like and don't like on it- it allows for debate and Bill Maher tries to just call people out of bullshit when they give bullshit answers.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
That Occupy chick was annoying.

ExiledTinkerer
Nov 4, 2009
Yeah, if you are any sort of advocate for a group/movement/etc you have got to be able to get out of your own skin as it were and look critically at things from other vantage points---pretty weak summer finale of just her arguing with Barney and nobody paying the slightest bit of attention to that other guy on the end.

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




Yeah, about the 3rd time she and Barney Frank were yelling at each other, I turned to my wife and said, "This is why liberals can't ever get anything done." Barney Frank's not the enemy, and nothing he said was at all bad, yet she's jumping on him before he can finish a sentence.

Her reaction to Bill's comparison of Occupy to the Tea Party, "We're not about sending people to congress, were about changing the culture," reminded me of John Boehner's, "Don't judge us on laws passed, judge us on laws we've repealed." Well, House Republicans haven't repealed poo poo, and Occupy hasn't changed jack about American culture.

Devour
Dec 18, 2009

by angerbeet
The New Rules segment this time was pretty good, especially the part about the rich buying elections/states.

Edit: I also seriously cannot believe that guy on the panel said "concern trolling" on TV.

Devour fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Aug 3, 2013

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

LabyaMynora posted:

Yeah, about the 3rd time she and Barney Frank were yelling at each other, I turned to my wife and said, "This is why liberals can't ever get anything done." Barney Frank's not the enemy, and nothing he said was at all bad, yet she's jumping on him before he can finish a sentence.

Her reaction to Bill's comparison of Occupy to the Tea Party, "We're not about sending people to congress, were about changing the culture," reminded me of John Boehner's, "Don't judge us on laws passed, judge us on laws we've repealed." Well, House Republicans haven't repealed poo poo, and Occupy hasn't changed jack about American culture.

Pretty much. It was like Barney was arguing with Abby Huntsman or something. What's worse was the stupid poo poo they argued about :

Barney: "We have too few police in the ghettos to protect African Americans. They should have more there and should be better trained."
Occupy Girl: "But some are abusive, they should have way way less!"
Barney: "Ridiculous they need to be better trained and crack down on the abusive, these places are dangerous and we need to protect the people."
JayZ: "We should focus on getting those people out of the ghettos!"
Barney: "Yes but that takes time, getting people out of the situation doesn't happen overnight so for now we should at least make sure they are safe."
Occupy Girl: "Abuse! Social Mobility!"
*Audience goes wild*

Occupy Girl: "Bradley Manning did nothing wrong!"
Barney: "He leaked a document that didn't edit out the names of many covert agents."
Occupy Girl: "But that same leak also showed sketchy things congress did against minimum wage and stuff."
Barney: "Well yeah but he didn't edit out the names of some people who could now get killed."
Occupy Girl: "Government is secret a lot though all information should be known."
Barney: "So everyone should know every single thing that the government does."
Occupy Girl: *Dodges*
Barney: "You aren't answering my question."
Occupy Girl: *Dodges*
Barney: "You still aren't answering my question."
Occupy Girl: *Dodges*
Barney: "Seriously just answer my question."
Occupy Girl: "It's better than what we have now."

I mean Jesus Christ.

Devour
Dec 18, 2009

by angerbeet

punk rebel ecks posted:

Pretty much. It was like Barney was arguing with Abby Huntsman or something. What's worse was the stupid poo poo they argued about :
:words:
I mean Jesus Christ.
I agree with Barney Frank on all of this. The occupy girl & Jay-Z were totally ignorant on every issue here.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Just a reminder that the show returns tonight Friday the 13th 2013.

Air Date: Friday, September 13, 2013
Time Slot: 10:00 PM-11:00 PM EST on HBO
Episode Title: (#293/1126) "TBA; Zanny Minton-Beddoes, Michael Steele and Matt Taibbi; Bill Nye"


quote:

Allowing Maher to offer his unique perspective on contemporary issues, the show includes an opening monologue, roundtable discussions with panelists, and interviews with in-studio and satellite guests. Emmy(R) winning scientist Bill Nye is the mid-show interview guest. The roundtable guests are economist Zanny Minton-Beddoes, former Lt. Governor Michael Steele and editor Matt Taibbi. The top-of-show interview guest will be announced when confirmed.

Bill Maher has been favorite of subscribers since his first special on the network in 1989, starring in nine solo specials, including the hour-long presentations "Bill Maher... But I'm Not Wrong," "The Decider" and "I'm Swiss" (both nominated for an Emmy(R) in the Outstanding Variety, Music or Comedy Special category), "Victory Begins at Home," "Be More Cynical," "The Golden Goose Special" and "Stuff That Struck Me Funny," and two half-hour stand-up specials, plus the specials "30 Seconds Over Washington" and "Comic Relief VI(TM)."

He was the creator and host of "Politically Incorrect," which was produced by HBO Downtown Productions and debuted on Comedy Central in 1993. The series moved to ABC in 1997 and ran through 2002.

His latest book, "The New New Rules: A Funny Look at How Everybody but Me Has Their Head Up Their rear end," was published in November 2011 and made the New York Times bestseller list. Maher's 2006 book, "New Rules: Polite Musings from a Timid Observer," also made the New York Times list, as well as bestseller lists across the country. He is also author of the books "When You Ride Alone You Ride with Bin Laden: What the Government Should Be Telling Us to Help Fight the War on Terrorism," "Does Anybody Have a Problem with That? The Best of Politically Incorrect" and the novel "True Story." Maher produced and starred in the 2008 feature film "Religulous," the seventh most successful documentary of all time.

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/listings/20130911hbo01/

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
Well at least Matt Taibbi will be entertaining, especially if he goes head to head with Zanny Beddoes. She's kind of a dolt.

richardfun
Aug 10, 2008

Twenty years? It's no wonder I'm so hungry. Do you have anything to eat?

comes along bort posted:

Well at least Matt Taibbi will be entertaining, especially if he goes head to head with Zanny Beddoes. She's kind of a dolt.

I'm glad Taibbi is one the panel for once. Actually looking forward to this.

ExiledTinkerer
Nov 4, 2009
Also looking forward to this, Taibbi should be a good guest to have on to help kick things off---especially with all the crazy events that just so happen to be in motion as of late.

I wonder if Steele will still be carrying all that water for the GOP, or if he's finally far enough removed via the passage of time/their further developed insanity to just cut loose and drop the lot of it...

richardfun
Aug 10, 2008

Twenty years? It's no wonder I'm so hungry. Do you have anything to eat?

ExiledTinkerer posted:

Also looking forward to this, Taibbi should be a good guest to have on to help kick things off---especially with all the crazy events that just so happen to be in motion as of late.

I wonder if Steele will still be carrying all that water for the GOP, or if he's finally far enough removed via the passage of time/their further developed insanity to just cut loose and drop the lot of it...

He hasn't done that ever since they kicked him to the curb. He is now the rarest of creatures, that most endangered of species: a moderate Republican.

richardfun fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Sep 13, 2013

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

ExiledTinkerer posted:

I wonder if Steele will still be carrying all that water for the GOP, or if he's finally far enough removed via the passage of time/their further developed insanity to just cut loose and drop the lot of it...

I have a feeling that he will carry the water and then Maher will make jokes and Steele will have that nervous and ironic laugh like he's about to be embarrassed.

13stitches
Mar 13, 2012

You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it and you wave a flag celebrating it.

richardfun posted:

He hasn't done that ever since they kicked him to the curb. He is now the rarest of creatures, that most endangered of species: a moderate Republican.

Yup, he went on Maddow pretty much right after he got kicked out of his old job. Looking forward to Taibbi, the guy's another rare creature: A funny pundit.

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Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

richardfun posted:

He hasn't done that ever since they kicked him to the curb. He is now the rarest of creatures, that most endangered of species: a moderate Republican.

He still gives the occasional halfhearted defense of conservative orthodoxy but he's definitely turned into the conservative version of Alan Colmes.


e: Radiation's not "healthy" but UVB from sunlight is the most efficient way for humans to get vitamin D via synthesis through the skin. But we're talking like 30-45 minutes tops a day in exposure.

e2: Ahaha Steele's a third wayer now.

e: Eh, college is more expensive because of ridiculous capital expansion (We need a third student union! Hey we might get to move up to D-1 football, we need $500 million for a new stadium!) coupled with decreasing state funding for public schools. Useless administrators are a drop in the bucket.

Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Sep 14, 2013

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