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Colon V posted:I really don't understand what we we have to gain from keeping a six-year-old, outdated thread around. People... don't have to switch their bookmarks on one thread? It's like saying "I really don't see why should we have those medieval churches around, we should burn them to the ground"
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Call Now posted:It's like saying "I really don't see why should we have those medieval churches around, we should burn them to the ground" That is the Notre Dame of bad analogies. God I love that latest strip. Pieces, falling into place.
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Jul 22, 2013 12:09
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Fried Chicken posted:This same point came up last year when D&D kept having new election threads every week. Apparently something in the boards software means it doesn't handle large threads real well, even if you don't have people reading past pages. The weekly election threads were so each thread could have an appropriate title/OP to go with the week's news. Don't think it was a performance thing.
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Jul 22, 2013 13:14
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HEY LOOK THE LINEAR GUILD MADE IT OUT ALIVE. Can we get back to the comic now?
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Jul 22, 2013 13:16
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My Lovely Horse posted:About time someone said it and triggered the So it begins... Did we get the Fiends' names before, or is this the first time?
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Jul 22, 2013 13:48
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They showed V their business cards when they first showed up. If they're news to you though, note the reference to alignment abbreviations - Lee is Lawful Evil, Nero is Neutral Evil, and Cedrik is Chaotic Evil, all three flavours of evil working together.
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Jul 22, 2013 13:55
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All working together to stamp out those insidious neutrals. V: If I don't survive this, tell my wife I said... Hello
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Jul 22, 2013 14:04
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My Lovely Horse posted:They showed V their business cards when they first showed up. If they're news to you though, note the reference to alignment abbreviations - Lee is Lawful Evil, Nero is Neutral Evil, and Cedrik is Chaotic Evil, all three flavours of evil working together. I like these little insights we get into how their team dynamic works - each behaves in accordance with their own alignment and brings something to the team that they wouldn't be able to achieve individually. Edit: Sabine's comment "I've seen them take down more righteous mortals than you" makes me wonder if they have made similar deals with other characters in the strip. DoctorTristan fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Jul 22, 2013 |
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Jul 22, 2013 14:12
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DoctorTristan posted:I like these little insights we get into how their team dynamic works - each behaves in accordance with their own alignment and brings something to the team that they wouldn't be able to achieve individually. It's true sinergy.
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Jul 22, 2013 14:19
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mmkay posted:I hope Rich is ok. Seeing the back of this tired meme is the best reason to replace the thread.
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Jul 22, 2013 17:17
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I hope SuperKlaus is ok.
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Jul 22, 2013 17:37
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I am going to out on a limb and say that Rich is going to update on wednesday and friday. Last week he managed to updated on sunday night, as well as on wednesday and friday without fail, which seems to me like an indication that he's trying to go back to the regular schedule he had before his health problems/burn out/ennui/alleged self-mutilation/secret NSA career.
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Jul 22, 2013 17:41
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Call Now posted:It's like saying "I really don't see why should we have those medieval churches around, we should burn them to the ground" This thread should be closed with extreme prejudice, just for that analogy. On topic: So any new guesses on what these fiends want? I would've gone back through the thread to see what people said in the past, but since this thread is so loving huge, I'm not going to even try. My running guess was the same as the raven's, that the lower circles are looking for a new world to harvest. But since Rich put it out there himself, there's a 0% chance of it. So: maybe the demons, devils, etc. are tired of living in Hell, and want to take over the planet for themselves? Maybe it's their homeworld, and the gods swooped them all up and forced them to basically be the wardens of Hell? Maybe the planet is the Krypton-like homeworld of the gods themselves, and the fiends are the original inhabitants of the oots-world?
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Jul 22, 2013 18:24
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It seems like every villain except Xykon can remember Roy's name these days. Hell I'm surprised Redcloak even knew his name because I think the last time they ever met face to face was for the five or so minutes it took for Roy to decapitate Xykon and throw his skull at Durokon's Gate. Unless someone mentioned it to him somewhere else, I honestly can't remember because it's been a loving long time since I did a proper re-read. 
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ASMR Yodeling posted:This thread should be closed with extreme prejudice, just for that analogy. I am fairly certain the planet is an entire new development, that happened entirely inbetween the building of the gates and the current events. That means that during the millennia since the second creation there really was a giant god slaying monstrosity imprisoned in the new planet and only now it actually became one of its own. My guess would be that the Snarl actually untangled itself, probably catalyzed by the gates since it happened in extremely short period of time since they were build. For what the fiends actually want, I would be a bit disappointed if they were just simple war-profiters, in the vain of 'Do you know how many souls we got from the conflict between Xykon and the Order? Why would we ever want one side to win?' But knowing OotS, I am pretty certain that wont happen and their actual scheme will be a lot more complicated, while still incredible fitting for a D&D universe.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:It seems like every villain except Xykon can remember Roy's name these days. Hell I'm surprised Redcloak even knew his name because I think the last time they ever met face to face was for the five or so minutes it took for Roy to decapitate Xykon and throw his skull at Durokon's Gate. Unless someone mentioned it to him somewhere else, I honestly can't remember because it's been a loving long time since I did a proper re-read. Redcloak is the player who makes sure to write down all the character's names and every plot point.
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A new thread would be easier to navigate. Back when V first sold hir soul, didn't the fiends outright say that they wanted conflict? Maybe their goal is to simply thwart the Dark One, since a god having a big enough weapon to shut up all the other gods could result in peace; A sort of Pax Goblina, if you will. Goblins at the top of society, no one may so much as look at them funny without the Dark One whistling non-chalantly while drumming his claws on the lever (I'm assuming it will be a lever) that opens the gate to the snarl. (Whatever is actually does is, of course, less important than what the other gods think it does). Since there's no point in jockeying for status and/or power anymore, what with Goblins hogging it all, there is then no cause for war among the other races, and thus little or none of that precious conflict. ETA: Does vampirism negatively affect Int/Wis? Because it seems that Durkon is now lower than Nale on the IQ charts. TheAceOfLungs fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Jul 23, 2013 |
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sebmojo posted:That is the Notre Dame of bad analogies. It's perfectly valid 
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e X posted:For what the fiends actually want, I would be a bit disappointed if they were just simple war-profiters, in the vain of 'Do you know how many souls we got from the conflict between Xykon and the Order? Why would we ever want one side to win?' TheAceOfLungs posted:Back when V first sold hir soul, didn't the fiends outright say that they wanted conflict? Maybe their goal is to simply thwart the Dark One, since a god having a big enough weapon to shut up all the other gods could result in peace; A sort of Pax Goblina, if you will. Goblins at the top of society, no one may so much as look at them funny without the Dark One whistling non-chalantly while drumming his claws on the lever (I'm assuming it will be a lever) that opens the gate to the snarl. (Whatever is actually does is, of course, less important than what the other gods think it does). Since there's no point in jockeying for status and/or power anymore, what with Goblins hogging it all, there is then no cause for war among the other races, and thus little or none of that precious conflict. Whatever their plan is, if successful it will be "trivial" for them to kill five Good dragons for every black one V killed. They are shooting for something much, much bigger than either of these two.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:It seems like every villain except Xykon can remember Roy's name these days. Hell I'm surprised Redcloak even knew his name because I think the last time they ever met face to face was for the five or so minutes it took for Roy to decapitate Xykon and throw his skull at Durokon's Gate. Unless someone mentioned it to him somewhere else, I honestly can't remember because it's been a loving long time since I did a proper re-read. Remember also that Xykon and company had been watching and listening to the Order of the Stick through a crystal ball for some time as they made their way through the first dungeon. While not face to face, I would imagine a high wisdom character would pick up the faces and names quickly.
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DoctorTristan posted:Whatever their plan is, if successful it will be "trivial" for them to kill five Good dragons for every black one V killed. They are shooting for something much, much bigger than either of these two. Well, we've got five gates.  Maybe none of them are going to the same planet.
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Jul 23, 2013 03:58
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How long is the peace between Malack and Nale going to last now that their quest is basically over?
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Network Pesci posted:How long is the peace between Malack and Nale going to last now that their quest is basically over? I'm not sure, but I just noticed that Malack and Durkula are completely undamaged whereas Nale and the drow look pretty hosed up. Bad news for Nale if Malack decides that their agreement is now at end.
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Jul 23, 2013 04:53
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On the other hand it'd be hilarious if Malack picked the fight and Nale dispelled his Protection from Daylight on the spot.
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Colonel Cool posted:On the other hand it'd be hilarious if Malack picked the fight and Nale dispelled his Protection from Daylight on the spot. Would that even be possible for Nale, though? I've only got a very vague understanding of class spells in D&D, though I am aware that Nale has said that he's multi-classed in the past. If he can, though, it'd be perfectly in-character for him to have kept something like that, especially since he presumably already knew Malack was a vampire from the whole 'killing Malack's 'children'' bit. Then again, I'd not be surprised if Malack opened up with that spell of his that knocks the target down into single-digit HP, and for Durkon to deal the finishing blow. Knowing Burlew, though, Nale's probably going to end up finding a way to weasel out of being Enemy Number One with Malack again. Or, at least he'll try to.
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Regalingualius posted:Would that even be possible for Nale, though? It's pretty unlikely, though not impossible, that Nale could dispel it himself, though Malack isn't that high level either. But it's completely possible that Nale is packing a magic item with a more powerful dispel for just such an occasion.
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Jul 23, 2013 06:29
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Can you dispel magic item effects? Malack mentioned his immunity to daylight is artifact based.
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SirDan3k posted:Can you dispel magic item effects? Malack mentioned his immunity to daylight is artifact based. http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0871.html It's a spell, no? Unless he said at some other point that he replaced his spell with an item and I'm just forgetting about it.
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Even if it IS dispelled, I imagine he could just cast it again before he "dies".
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Huh I could have sworn he mentioned getting Durkon a magic item with protection from daylight when Durkon wandered into the sun but re-reading it's not there. I still think Nale is dead meat, Tarquin doesn't value him at all and would probably kill Nale even if he won against Malack just to give Elan a shake your fist at the heavens and swear vengeance moment.
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Yeah, at this point I think Nale has rather outlived his plot relevance potential. However, if he DIES dies here, then you couldn't really explore the dramatic tension between Sabine's loyalty to Nale and her bosses.
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Johnny Aztec posted:Even if it IS dispelled, I imagine he could just cast it again before he "dies". A vampire in sunlight is completely boned, actually. All he's capable of doing at that point is run as far as he can in six seconds and then die if he can't get to shelter. SirDan3k posted:I still think Nale is dead meat, Tarquin doesn't value him at all and would probably kill Nale even if he won against Malack just to give Elan a shake your fist at the heavens and swear vengeance moment. Yeah maybe. Or maybe Nale is coming up for his own sudden moment of character development and newfound relevance. I think Thog was conspicuously "left for dead" for a reason and Sabine and Nale's romance is going to have a payoff at some point. I wouldn't count Nale out of it yet.
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Nale is like a roach, he lives on. It's funny how the Linear Guild reflects the OOTS almost exactly in this one respect, they keep on trucking no matter how much they gently caress up.
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DoctorTristan posted:I like these little insights we get into how their team dynamic works - each behaves in accordance with their own alignment and brings something to the team that they wouldn't be able to achieve individually. I don't even think Sabine's comment has to imply a deal; that's a Lawful, diabolical tactic. What if the fiends have also used Chaotic techniques to "take down more righteous mortals"? Specifically, what if the fiends manipulated events to sow distrust between a righteous paladin and a (self-)righteous illusionist? At several points in the story, Order of the Stick members have openly wondered at "what the hell happened to make these people hate each other so much" - we get a crayon drawing of Kraagor dying/getting sucked into the rift, but A. that might be unreliable narration, and B. Girard and Soon seem to loathe each other well before that. SirDan3k posted:I still think Nale is dead meat, Tarquin doesn't value him at all and would probably kill Nale even if he won against Malack just to give Elan a shake your fist at the heavens and swear vengeance moment. Did I miss a scene where Tarquin and the kobold went back to town? And if not, where are they? I guess they could have just dashed out in time, but it seems like Qarr didn't teleport them out. (And it's not like Sabine would have asked him to.)
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Yeah while Sabine works for the fiends, I got the impression that her personal loyalties lie with Nale, and his with her.
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Colonel Cool posted:A vampire in sunlight is completely boned, actually. All he's capable of doing at that point is run as far as he can in six seconds and then die if he can't get to shelter. Oh? It's pretty much No save, YOU DIE type thing? I assumed it would be like a buncha dies damage per round or some such. I admit my knowledge of DnD vampires is lacking. Malack seems like the type to take such an event into consideration, and have a backup.
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I'm not sure how loyal Nale is to her, but it's probably a moot point because there's no way Malak's not going to massacre him the moment he considers this mission over. (Although I guess they could see each other in hell.)SirDan3k posted:Huh I could have sworn he mentioned getting Durkon a magic item with protection from daylight when Durkon wandered into the sun but re-reading it's not there. You're probably thinking of the fact that he keeps the spell stored in his rod, instead of memorized.
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Ponsonby Britt posted:Did I miss a scene where Tarquin and the kobold went back to town? And if not, where are they? I guess they could have just dashed out in time, but it seems like Qarr didn't teleport them out. (And it's not like Sabine would have asked him to.) Sort of. They stayed behind while Tarquin completed an errand of some sort. We've been assuming that meant he was calling in the rest of his team, but that's just speculation. If he isn't calling in the big guns, I can't imagine what else he's doing though. Kilkil can fly, and Tarquin is both genre saavy and has a pterodactyl mount on hand, so I'm sure they both got the gently caress outta there as soon as the pyramid started shaking.
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Colonel Cool posted:A vampire in sunlight is completely boned, actually. All he's capable of doing at that point is run as far as he can in six seconds and then die if he can't get to shelter.
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