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zeroordie
Aug 27, 2004

Dehtraen posted:

I'm following this advice above, but need a bit of guidance. I'm 6'2" & 190 lb, looking to do casual riding around and as I get more comfortable go to the skate park nearby and make a fool of myself... What would be an appropriate size board and wheels? searching yielded a lot of personal preference and recommendations from between 7.5" to 8.25" for board width and wheels seem to be 52mm or 54mm depending on the site. Would the Independent stage 11 standard trucks be the best pick? I haven't gone skateboarding in a number of years and cannot remember what I used before as I didn't get into the gear aspect of the hobby.

What size shoes do you wear? I'm 6'2, 200 pounds. I have size 13 shoes and I skate an 8" deck. I rode a 7.75" for a long time, then I tried a 7.85", then eventually made the switch to 8". I found that 8" was the most comfortable size for me. It feels solid and isn't too much harder to flip. Obviously, shoe size isn't the only factor here but for me it's a big one. One of my closest friends rides a 7.5" board. I feel like I'm riding on a popsicle stick when I step on that thing, but it definitely flips way easier. I also tried a friends' 8.25" board last week. Felt super solid, of course, but was almost impossible to flip. He actually ended up giving it away and going back to 8" because he couldn't flip it reliably.

I ride 53mm wheels. All of my friends ride 52mm though. I like to skate some transition, which bigger wheels help with. Also makes rolling on crappy ground feel a bit smoother, so that helps.

As for the trucks, Independent is the safest bet. Not sure about the stage 11 thing to be honest, but they seem like the best option. I've been on my current Independent's for over a year, so I'm out of date there.

Do you have a local skate shop you could swing by? They probably have a complete deal not far off of the CCS deal. In a store you could stand on a few different deck shapes to get an idea of how they feel under you too.

zeroordie fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Jul 23, 2013

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Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Hi radical thread, I haven't stood on a skateboard in 8 years but would like to get back into it. My question is I don't have a board anymore and am working on a tiny budget, what's the absolute cheapest way to get a skateboard(regular decks, not longboard/cruiser) that is still a step up from buying a piece of driftwood on plastic wheels from Walmart? I wasn't very good then and definitely won't be now so I don't mind something just barely adequate, if it can at least last a year till I'm out of school that would be fine, I'd just really like to get on it this summer.

Dehtraen
Jul 30, 2004

Keep the faith alive

zeroordie posted:

What size shoes do you wear? I'm 6'2, 200 pounds. I have size 13 shoes and I skate an 8" deck. I rode a 7.75" for a long time, then I tried a 7.85", then eventually made the switch to 8". I found that 8" was the most comfortable size for me. It feels solid and isn't too much harder to flip. Obviously, shoe size isn't the only factor here but for me it's a big one. One of my closest friends rides a 7.5" board. I feel like I'm riding on a popsicle stick when I step on that thing, but it definitely flips way easier. I also tried a friends' 8.25" board last week. Felt super solid, of course, but was almost impossible to flip. He actually ended up giving it away and going back to 8" because he couldn't flip it reliably.

I ride 53mm wheels. All of my friends ride 52mm though. I like to skate some transition, which bigger wheels help with. Also makes rolling on crappy ground feel a bit smoother, so that helps.

As for the trucks, Independent is the safest bet. Not sure about the stage 11 thing to be honest, but they seem like the best option. I've been on my current Independent's for over a year, so I'm out of date there.

Do you have a local skate shop you could swing by? They probably have a complete deal not far off of the CCS deal. In a store you could stand on a few different deck shapes to get an idea of how they feel under you too.

Thanks for the response --- Shoe size is 11 or 11.5 depending on the brand. Probably start with 8" for stability?

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice
Here's an "old man buying a new board for the first time in a long time" question: back when I stopped in the early / mid 90's, all (or a vast majority) decks were "slicks". Is that still a thing? Is it so common that they aren't labeled as such, or was it a fad that went away?

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!

Lumpy posted:

Here's an "old man buying a new board for the first time in a long time" question: back when I stopped in the early / mid 90's, all (or a vast majority) decks were "slicks". Is that still a thing? Is it so common that they aren't labeled as such, or was it a fad that went away?

It's gone away.

Rot
Apr 18, 2005

Check in time for another old fart getting back into the game. It's been 10 years, after skating for over 20.

My daughter wanted a Penny board. That evening in a parking lot, as I was showing her how to use it, I had a thought: "holy poo poo this is fun!". To her credit she was very patient as I hogged her board and wiggled around.

That night I got drunk, read this thread, and watched videos of Mark Gonzales on Youtube.

The next day I put this together:



Parts spec'd more for nostalgia than anything else.

Thinking I'd be a little rusty, it was a shock to find that my body just doesn't want to move the way it used to! Fortunately I wasn't a complete spaz and by the end of an afternoon of slappies, ollies, and no-complys, I managed to work back into popshuvs (off a TWO STAIR :smug: ) and even landed the odd sketchy kickflip.

My goals are: 1) to not be a complete retard while cruising to the pub and 2) sneak into the skatepark in the morning then retreat to the pool when the kids show up.

So...thanks, you guys, for your part in all of this.

Rot fucked around with this message at 10:11 on Jul 24, 2013

McFoxigator
Jun 13, 2011

Life is full of twicky decisions...
I have the opportunity to get a new Globe Bantam complete for $44.50. I don't feel too strongly about buying it because I likely wouldn't use it for much except just playing around and maybe comuting so I don't really see it expanding my quiver greatly. It looks like a fun board though. I've not had the chance to ride one so can someone tell me if it's worth the price?

beergod
Nov 1, 2004
NOBODY WANTS TO SEE PICTURES OF YOUR UGLY FUCKING KIDS YOU DIPSHIT
Haha I've never skated in my life (I'm 30) and picked up a longboard today and was sliding around the neighborhood like an idiot and had a lot of fun. I hope I improve quickly; my drunk neighbors kept giving me poo poo and a random guy told me to go back home to Arizona (I live In Southern California).

Edit: also kind of irritated that I bought into the whole support your local shop thing. Dude sold me a Krown longboard for $100 and the exact same one is on Amazon for about half that.

beergod fucked around with this message at 09:53 on Jul 28, 2013

Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames

beergod posted:

told me to go back home to Arizona

For riding a longboard poorly? How does that make sense?

Zigmidge
May 12, 2002

Exsqueeze me, why the sour face? I'm here to lemon aid you. Let's juice it.

beergod posted:


Edit: also kind of irritated that I bought into the whole support your local shop thing. Dude sold me a Krown longboard for $100 and the exact same one is on Amazon for about half that.


Well, yeah. Of course it would be. Supporting your local helps the community, do that if you're involved or going to events or want to hang with locals and only buy from locals that actually do things for you. If you're just gonna kook around on your own buy cheap like any other sane purchasing you'd do. It's not just some feel good buy green type of bullshit initiative, we're literally buying a scene.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
You see every Californian has an innate ability to excel at all extreme sports. If someone isn't acting sufficiently cool clearly they aren't Californian.

Blowdryer
Jan 25, 2008

Intel&Sebastian posted:

I like watching the street league format but I'd much rather watch the jam session style competition (do they even do this anymore at the xgames for street?). poo poo I'd rather watch battle at the berrics.

I'm sad Ben Raybourn couldn't put together another good run in the xgames park prelims so I could see more of him there. He had too much of a hard on for that roof drop in. Pedro Barros is loving ridiculous, he looks like he was born in an empty pool. Their whole course there is really weird and small.

Edit: Hey look you can watch it on the youtubes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVJBJwziYO8

That kid was in my cabin probably like 4 or 5 years ago at woodward and in my group he was good as hell then and watching him skate is crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB77HjWnTUo Did some tricks the other day, I'm in the brown pants

beergod
Nov 1, 2004
NOBODY WANTS TO SEE PICTURES OF YOUR UGLY FUCKING KIDS YOU DIPSHIT
OK, day 2 was much better. I can now get momentum and step up on the board and maintain the momentum by kicking. My problem is that I always veer to the right (I skate regular) and I can't move back to the left or stay straight.

Is the serious business of turning done when I'm kicking or when I'm rolling and how?

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
I've seen it so many times now I have to ask: Why is that "Radio Korea" spot so ungaurded? Is that whole building out of business or something?

P.S. DGK's "Parental Advisory" has an intro so cool and so long I started to wonder if they had gone full retard and made an actual movie.

Nichol
May 18, 2004

Sly Dog
beergod: it sounds like you are brand new and so I think(skating a whole month now) I am qualified to answer. if otherwise,apologies.


when starting from a stop you want to keep the majority of your weighton your front foot and directly over the front bolts. I usually keep my front foot so I'm "always showing one bolt" to keep my weight from going too far forward and tipping onto the toe. so if your weight is directly over those bolts and your right leg is pushing straight back and pretty close to that side of the board (like 3-5 inches away rather than 8-10) you should move straight forward. if you're turning in one direction you're probably best served by compensating and moving some amount of weight the other way (or just moving your foot a few cm to that side of the board until you find a comfortable place).


you should do most of your turning with both feet on the board for sure. generally on top of the bolts, although I usually have my back foot mostly on the tail. this may be bad form.

you turn just by putting weight on your heels or toes and leaning a little that way (to compensate for momentum - the lean should become instinctual, don't think too much about it). you can get a feel for how this works by standing on a stationary board and watching the wheels when you shift weight forward or heelward. the wheels on the side with more weight will move closer together. its a simple mechanism but it works!


you can adjust how much they turn by tightening or loosing the big bolt in the middle of the truck. if you are turning a lot trying just to push your trucks might be too loose. you can tighten them right up but then you won't be able to turn. in my first few weeks I messed around with this bolt a LOT until I found a setting that let me turn the board easily but was also somewhat stable.

hope that helps, but again I'm also totally new. it is so much fun! I think I need to work a lot on my kick turns before I even head to the park and try the transition again. it was pretty embarrassing last time, but the one time I almost did a proper 180 on the transition my eyes lit up and I guess I experienced what the kids call being 'stoked'. man so fun. also almost have the ollie down (stationary...) some things are still super scary to try on concrete (caveman...) but I have a blast whenever I get out on the board. it is pretty funny being in my 30s and entirely unable to navigate the transition and watching like 10 year olds just take the park apart, but I tell myself I am a much better driver than them and I feel better about myself...

Faux-Ass Nonsense
Feb 9, 2013

by Lowtax

Horizontal Tree posted:

Set up a GS (giant slalom) or LDP (long-distance pumping) style board. Want a medium wheelbase, 22-26", 70mm grippy race wheels, narrow trucks with the front wedged, rear dewedged. Narrow Indys, Trackers, or similar are great, with some 70mm Zig Zags (lemon/lime mix, or lime all around). I could tell you exactly what I'd build if I had the money to build a new GS-style cruiser right now: Fullbag Death or Glory GS deck, Trackers/Indys wedged/dewedged, and my lemon Zig Zags front with PPS Cone Crushers in back
I used to have an HS board that was set up completely race ready, but I've never actually run cones. I'd cruise, pump, and bomb smaller hills on it and it was the best thing. Miss that board. I have a different slalom deck now that I don't like nearly as much, but no trucks for it.

I've decided in the meantime I want to ollie this thing as well because being thwarted by small obstacles sucks. Think I'll pick up a Loaded Ceviche or Poke, or a Landyachtz Bamboo Ripper.
Currently riding a heavily modified Mindless Rogue (ghetto cutouts, weirdly wedged, set up with a bunch of random bushings left over from when I used to skate street), but the weight and stiffness make it a chore to pump. That said, it's fun for downhill and carves very nicely, it's just not the all-purpose cruiser I want for staying in shape.

Zigmidge
May 12, 2002

Exsqueeze me, why the sour face? I'm here to lemon aid you. Let's juice it.

Faux-rear end Nonsense posted:

I've decided in the meantime I want to ollie this thing as well because being thwarted by small obstacles sucks. Think I'll pick up a Loaded Ceviche or Poke, or a Landyachtz Bamboo Ripper.


Please, for your sake, I suggest you don't do this. It comes down to material, shape and purpose. If you want to learn how to ollie, get a regular popcicle stick skateboard and develop your technique there. Apply that to whatever you want afterwards. You'll just get bad habits, frustrated and broke because bamboo skateboards are among the stupidest loving things on this planet. They absorb all of your 'pop' energy and they razortail in actual minutes and because they have wheelwell cutouts you'll have the privilege of eating poo poo every time you foot bite off an ollie.

I had a big whiny post nerding out about why but I erased it because really this is skating and you should do whatever you want to do.


Speaking of ollies, anybody got any tips for ollieing on transition? I just can't seem to understand what I need to be doing. As soon as I go sideways, everything I've learned goes out the window. I spent all afternoon yesterday trying to fs 180 off a steep bank and spent most of the time jumping away from it.

d0s
Jun 28, 2004

I was talking to a skater friend of mine about how I used to skate in my early teens (I'm 30) and was looking to get back into it with a cruiser or something, the guy is an actual crackhead and said he had a cruiser deck and wheels he would sell me because he decided the deck he bought was "gay" and never got around to finishing it/needed the money (of course), he goes home and brings this Supreme deck and these Spitfire wheels and sells it all to me for $80. I think I got a pretty good deal considering what I see people trying to sell that deck for on eBay, plus I like New Order and I'm not insecure about riding on a pretty flower deck :colbert:

I brought the stuff to the skate shop and had them set it up with trucks/bearings/grip etc. The trucks are Independent 129 lo's and there's about a 1/4" riser on em. My question is, should I stick with this setup? It seems kinda weird to have lo trucks on a cruiser, would it be any better to ditch the risers and get normal 129s? I'm pretty sure the skate shop guy just gave me these trucks because they were the only ones in that size he had. FWIW it rides fine and I'm really enjoying skateboarding again, I just spent all day yesterday cruising around Miami beach and it was fun as all hell, even planning on getting a cheap popsicle board at some point so I can recapture my misspent youth and hurt myself, just wondering if my setup on the cruiser could be better.

EDIT:



d0s fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Jul 31, 2013

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!
If you start getting wheel bite where the wheel rubs against the board enough during a turn to stop you, you might consider making a change. Otherwise I would think with the risers + low trucks would be fine on your gay board. Especially if you are thinking about getting a whole different setup for getting radical. I'd leave the cruiser as is and worry about being picky with the new setup.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
That flower deck is cool as poo poo. Also I wouldn't recommend having friends who are crackheads, except for in this one situation where it worked out well.

d0s
Jun 28, 2004

Ruin Completely posted:

Also I wouldn't recommend having friends who are crackheads, except for in this one situation where it worked out well.

Having been a crackhead and worse myself (clean for a few years now though), I know not to let my skeevier friends around anything valuable. It sucks to treat people that way but crack in particular makes you do really hosed up poo poo for quick cash (like selling a nice deck for half of what you could have gotten for it with a little patience and 10 minutes with eBay/craigslist). Also, I gotta note that this thing isn't stolen, I made sure that he showed me his e-mail invoice, he got it from the Supreme online store pretty much the minute it was released for something like $65.

Faux-Ass Nonsense
Feb 9, 2013

by Lowtax

Zigmidge posted:

Helpful words

I skated street for years, so I can ollie pretty well. Granted, it might take some practice to nail it consistently on a longer bamboo deck but all I really need to be able to do is clear sidewalks. No 10sets or gaps or anything like that. Maybe a bit of pool if a park ever gets built here, or if I move.
Wheelbite is probably a non-issue since I wedge, not to mention the cutouts most of these decks have. I'll throw a tail-guard on, most likely, or make one that mitigates any kicktail flex since that sounds admittedly lovely for pop.

I really should've mentioned that I'm not going into this completely clueless; busted my knee up something fierce on a halfpipe a few years back, but I missed skating and picked up a cheap longboard for transportation, fitness and :350: a few months back.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

beergod posted:

Edit: also kind of irritated that I bought into the whole support your local shop thing. Dude sold me a Krown longboard for $100 and the exact same one is on Amazon for about half that.

Oh wow you really don't get it at all.

d0s
Jun 28, 2004

Shop decks :whatup:



Got it put together, went outside and got my ollie back after some embarrassing moments and then it started pouring. Florida sucks

zeroordie
Aug 27, 2004

d0s posted:

Shop decks :whatup:



Got it put together, went outside and got my ollie back after some embarrassing moments and then it started pouring. Florida sucks

Good looking set-up. Great shop too, I loved Welcome to Mia.

d0s
Jun 28, 2004

zeroordie posted:

Good looking set-up. Great shop too, I loved Welcome to Mia.

Thanks, and yeah MIA is a really great shop, don't have much experience with the South Beach location but the Sunny Isles one is exactly what a good skate shop should be, it's obvious everyone working there is enjoying themselves and are really passionate about the stuff they sell. It has a really "curated" feel if that makes sense, it's not like BC Surf and Sport where they started out like that and now they're trying to be Ron Jon, MIA has been around for like 12 years and they're still very much a community oriented place and not a bunch of jaded old guys trying to sell skimboards or whatever to tourists.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
I finally got a skateboard today; Enjoi deck, Spitfire wheels, Girl trucks. It was the first time I stood on a skateboard in like 7 years so things are still pretty wobbly, but at the very least I can ride it without instantly smashing my whole body on the ground. Now I just need to find a time when there will be no witnesses at the skatepark to see me awkwardly spazm my way back into the swing of things.

d0s
Jun 28, 2004

Just found out my local indoor skatepark has "Throwback Thursdays" for people 25+, definitely gonna check it out. I've never been to one though, when I was a kid they were nonexistent in my part of the state and that was something we always bitched about. I can't wait to learn how to drop in, they require safety equipment for insurance reasons and it's senior night so I probably won't be the only fat old guy in pads making a fool of himself.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
:lol:

Adult Swim for a skatepark? That owns.

I haven't repped this series here in a bit so please enjoy Shredit Cards best of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb2c6YMLQ20


As far as I know these are all amateur skaters and they blow my fuckin' mind.

Faux-Ass Nonsense
Feb 9, 2013

by Lowtax
Looks like there's more concrete news of a park opening up in town. I'd love to skate a pool, pumping around it would be a fun workout. Anybody have any experience with vacuum/pressing custom decks, by the way?

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

Intel&Sebastian posted:

:lol:

Adult Swim for a skatepark? That owns.

I haven't repped this series here in a bit so please enjoy Shredit Cards best of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb2c6YMLQ20


As far as I know these are all amateur skaters and they blow my fuckin' mind.

Hey have you checked out the Roxbury skate park that just opened yet?

Zigmidge
May 12, 2002

Exsqueeze me, why the sour face? I'm here to lemon aid you. Let's juice it.

Faux-rear end Nonsense posted:

Anybody have any experience with vacuum/pressing custom decks, by the way?

What did you want to know? I build all of my boards with that method. It's a really cheap and effective method of pressing one-offs, prototyping or starting a small brand out of your house or small workshop. After about four years I've gotten really good at it. The only time I buy a deck anymore is if I need to see how someone else did something.

It's great for popsicle sticks too, not only is it cheaper to build my own replacements but I'm not even replacing them as often anymore because 'core' brand boards and shop decks are all made like poo poo with poo poo glues and even shittier maple. poo poo. That kind of thing is trickier for a hand builder to make with no plans/designs though, there's 20+ years of experience and geometry tinkering that went into making the popsicle stick what it is today (which is funny because the core brands throw that out of the window when they press a dozen boards on one mold at a time to lower costs).

Ask away, I know a lot about a lot on building skateboards...

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Bucket Joneses posted:

Hey have you checked out the Roxbury skate park that just opened yet?

I'm awful man I haven't gone anywhere in a hell of a long time other than some park near Judkins that looked pretty cool but had too many people around for me to try and get my bearings. I wanted to get out more this summer and maybe even put together a smaller board but y'know, life.

Edit: I forget where it is but there's some park in Tukwila that has a really mild wooden half-pipe that I want to go back to.

Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Aug 7, 2013

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
Tonight I went skateboarding in the mostly-dark at my apartment complex's tennis courts, just going in circles over and over (because I'm a newb so it's still fun). I also got my first hole-in-the-jeans from wiping out. Skateboarding is cool. It only took me two decades of waiting to get around to learning it.

Megadrive
Sep 6, 2011

I feel like it's taking way too long to get my ollies down. I tried to do them earlier and every time I bent down to jump, my chest hurt. So I stopped for today, I guess I'll give it another go tomorrow after spending another day obsessively watching slowmos of ollies to see why I'm screwing it up. :(

I should clarify I've been attempting ollies for about 2-3 months now, skating whenever I can between work.

Megadrive fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Aug 11, 2013

zeroordie
Aug 27, 2004

Megadrive posted:

I should clarify I've been attempting ollies for about 2-3 months now, skating whenever I can between work.

If it makes you feel any better, it took me like three years to get to a decent ollie and another two years to get kickflips down. I was a slow learner, apparently.

d0s
Jun 28, 2004

Megadrive posted:

I feel like it's taking way too long to get my ollies down. I tried to do them earlier and every time I bent down to jump, my chest hurt. So I stopped for today, I guess I'll give it another go tomorrow after spending another day obsessively watching slowmos of ollies to see why I'm screwing it up. :(

I should clarify I've been attempting ollies for about 2-3 months now, skating whenever I can between work.

It takes a long loving time. During that time your body's learning the ten thousand or so wrong ways to do it and the five or so right ways and commits that to muscle memory. It's half muscle memory and half mental, it's dumb but if you feel like you're not landing because you're scared the board's gonna fly out from under you, cover yourself in safety gear until you look like an astronaut or a downhill longboarder and go somewhere that's private or at least not full of people who will give you poo poo for it and land it in all those dangerous ways that causes falls until you body knows not to do that either.

Megadrive
Sep 6, 2011



This is the point I'm up to currently. I think the only thing I need to work on now is the flick, then once I have the motions going, to start attempting it moving. I'd like to get your guys' opinions, though.

donJonSwan
Dec 6, 2004
Scum Pirate
Start practicing while moving. You're never going to need to know how to ollie standing still.

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DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
Yeah that's the big thing stopping you from getting any pop. Almost all of your energy is getting sucked up by the backwards motion of the board when you kick the tail down.

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