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SurgicalOntologist posted:Equally responsive or nearly so, maybe a bit less precise, but all I've done in touch mode is play Civ 5 so it's not much experience with it. I'm using speedfan to get my internal temps. When you say it's too hot to put on your lap comfortably, is that during just normal use or playing Civ 5/whatever else?
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I'm a dummy and didn't realize that the Razer Blade took a mSATA drive, so I have to return this 480gb SanDisk Extreme amd get an mSATA drive. However, I can't find many large (~500gb) mSATAs. What brands/models should I be looking for?
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 01:33 |
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TenementFunster posted:I'm a dummy and didn't realize that the Razer Blade took a mSATA drive, so I have to return this 480gb SanDisk Extreme amd get an mSATA drive. However, I can't find many large (~500gb) mSATAs. What brands/models should I be looking for? Mushkin makes one of the only ones http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226379
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 01:37 |
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gently caress, that is a lot money. i just discovered that this thing has two mSATA ports inside (allegedly), so I might just buy another 256gb. would it be possible to JBOD them?
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 01:49 |
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TenementFunster posted:gently caress, that is a lot money. i just discovered that this thing has two mSATA ports inside (allegedly), so I might just buy another 256gb. would it be possible to JBOD them? I didn't know turd polish was that expensive. All harsh realities aside, you'd be better off keeping a really big slow (lol slow mSATA like that exists...) SSD in one of the mSATA slots and a 32- or 64-GiB "bl33d1n9-3d93" mSATA drive for the OS itself, for quick boots and the like.
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 03:14 |
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I'm waiting for that Sarnsung pcie SSD that's in the new Air to be sold standalone. My x220 isn't long in the tooth but I would like to start getting parts that save battery life. The worst part about getting the pcie SSD would have to be that it's twice as "fast" as SATA-III's operation ceiling, which is really funny.
sports fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Jul 25, 2013 |
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sports posted:I'm waiting for that Sarnsung pcie SSD that's in the new Air to be sold standalone. My x220 isn't long in the tooth but I would like to start getting parts that save battery life. What the heck are you going to put it in?
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 03:17 |
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My x220 has a pcie card slot for mobile broadband. I'm working on a BIOS patch right now.
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 03:18 |
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sports posted:My x220 has a pcie card slot for mobile broadband. I'm working on a BIOS patch right now. How's this going to fit in there?
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 03:41 |
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Bob Morales posted:How's this going to fit in there? Don't ruin the dream
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 04:05 |
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Bob Morales posted:How's this going to fit in there? Just took it apart and figured out that the full height + half height card is enough space for the M2 form factor. Hmm.
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 04:14 |
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sports posted:I didn't know turd polish was that expensive.
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 04:30 |
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For normal use you won't notice any difference. I think only people that run benchmarks can tell.
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 04:39 |
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I think you can tell -- look how fast the system boots -- but you don't care.
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 05:21 |
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So like 11 seconds vs 15 seconds?
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 05:26 |
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shrughes posted:I think you can tell -- look how fast the system boots -- but you don't care. Seriously, who still cold boots their computer? I just close the lid and open it at will.
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 05:51 |
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Windows updates. Even Windows 8 can't do its quick boot thing if it needs to install updates.
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 05:53 |
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dissss posted:Windows updates. Seriously? :/
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 05:58 |
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If you're a paranoid like me you shut down every time you leave your computer so that nobody can read the contents of your encrypted drive.
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 06:10 |
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If its passworded on resume then presumably they'd try to reboot. Or just refrain from leaving it lying around imo
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 07:04 |
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Revol posted:My Haswell XPS 12 just arrived. I plan to do a write-up for this thread, when it goes up depends heavily on how much activity I'm able to get through online dating over the next two days. (I should have something lined up for Thursday, and I may do something on Friday too. So maybe push it to Saturday. But if my luck holds out and prove me to be a loser yet again, maybe sooner.) Right now, I'm running Windows Update before I load a backup image of the system onto my USB flash drive. I don't know how old you are but how does it handle taking notes using touchscreen? Or does it have any digitizer support? I'm deciding between the xps12 and vaio duo 13.
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 07:18 |
Progressive JPEG posted:If its passworded on resume then presumably they'd try to reboot. Or just refrain from leaving it lying around imo If it's on, there is key material in memory: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/cryogenically-frozen-ram-bypasses-all-disk-encryption-methods/900
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 07:22 |
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Delta-Wye posted:If it's on, there is key material in memory:
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 07:49 |
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Progressive JPEG posted:Yeah, if something's actually that sensitive it really shouldn't be on a laptop There are many government agencies and corporations that disagree. If you just encrypt your hard drive then that's probably fine
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 08:33 |
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My Sony Vaio Z finally gave up the ghost, and so I'm looking for another laptop, new or used. Here's what I would like:
1) Buy a Haswell system with a decent ("retina quality"+) screen, or wait until one comes out. 2) Buy a ~$300 old used laptop with a decent screen (>1920x1080, so probably 1920x1200), put 4GB+ RAM in it and an 80GB SSD, and use for a year or two until it is no longer usable. After that, there should be plenty of higher-resolution laptops to choose from at reasonable prices For 1), I've thought about buying a Haswell rMBP and liked the screen I saw in the store on the current models, but I'm not sold on Linux support for them, really dislike clickpads and soldered components, don't really like the keyboard layout, and have zero interest in running OS X. (I have used OS X for ~twelve months in the past). I've also thought about picking up a Chromebook Pixel, and probably would have if the memory/storage were upgradable and it didn't have such a tiny amount of local storage for the price. I've barely seen anything about prices for upcoming Haswell systems with decent screens, but imagine that they will likely be really expensive and have seen rumored prices floating around $2kish for "base" models. Is there anything I'm missing here? A new laptop would be nice because it'd make it easier to debug/run code locally in addition to playing some undemanding games/watching HD videos/HD YouTube while I'm on the go, but I feel like I'm going to be forced into paying a huge premium for a nice screen if I go this route. I also wonder if there are going to even be any new laptops which come with physical trackpad buttons, as even Lenovo seems to be moving away from them -- I imagine this is something I will probably just have to live with. I'm really leaning towards 2), buying an older laptop with a decent screen, but aren't sure what the best choice would be here. I've heard that T61s laptops have 1920x1200 displays, which is the minimum I'd like to consider. Are there any other laptops I should be looking at? If I could pick up a laptop with a nice 4:3 screen, that would be great too. I just don't know how old is "too old" with regards to being able to use a modern Linux distribution/read documents/browse the web/watch fullscreen YouTube without sluggishness being a problem. The coding/writing shouldn't be much of an issue as I use terminal-based programs for that, and with 4GB of RAM testing code should still be doable even if it's a bit slow. 2GB or 3GB might be workable too, but 4GB would be preferred. I may be working with protected data in the future and would like to have full-disk encryption in that case, so AES instruction set support would be nice too with an older machine to help with speed, but not a requirement. I just don't want to spend more than like $300 if I go this route, because this would be a stopgap solution with the intention of buying another laptop within a year or two. Thanks for any advice! Meltycat fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Jul 25, 2013 |
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So I've got some general use Dell coupon codes, not sure how much longer they'll be around: 30% off any Laptop, Desktop or Tablet $1000+ Code: "2JTJ140TG9562G" 25% off any Laptop, Desktop or Tablet $500+ Code: "S45VMLZ06VJ3WM" 20% off any Laptop, Desktop or Tablet under $500 Code: "$X3GG244P$8?90" 30% off any Refurbished Monitor Code: "0$HG9WSRJRKW22" I took a look at the XPS 12, but my god those are loving expensive. I think that I'll sit tight and wait for some more laptops to come out with the HD5000
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 11:48 |
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Meltycat posted:My Sony Vaio Z finally gave up the ghost, and so I'm looking for another laptop, new or used. The stuff you've just listed definitely sounds like a T530 with the 95% 1080p screen option (except maybe for non-weird keyboard layout). The inevitable Haswell refresh hasn't been announced yet, though obviously it's coming, but may not fill as many of your requirements like no clickpad. As for old computers, I have an old T61 and if you can get a good one and put in an ssd they are still fine for basic computing. But they're now quite old so I'm not sure how easy it is to find decent ones on craigslist or ebay or whatever.
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QuarkJets posted:So I've got some general use Dell coupon codes, not sure how much longer they'll be around: Dell posted:
Trying to use it on an XPS 12 Guess it's not "Any" after all.
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lostleaf posted:I don't know how old you are but how does it handle taking notes using touchscreen? Or does it have any digitizer support? I'm deciding between the xps12 and vaio duo 13. It has no digitizer, so notation is going to be a little more difficult without it. I do have an Adonit Jot stylus, though, so I plan to test it with that. Didn't get a chance to yet, since I wanted to get my Skinomi screen protector on first. But it looks like maybe the installation didn't take well, I have a lot of streaking/fog under the screen. And it doesn't look like the kind that is supposed to disappear a few days after application, either. Brut posted:Trying to use it on an XPS 12 Guess it's not "Any" after all. A quick Google search shows that this is the Dell Outlet, so we're talking refurbished. Which means you wont't find the new Haswell XPS 12. Revol fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Jul 25, 2013 |
# ? Jul 25, 2013 13:45 |
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How well do Chromebooks work with an external monitor? I am thinking that a younger sibling going off to college would enjoy having a Chromebook and a 24" monitor more than x230.
Calidus fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Jul 25, 2013 |
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QuarkJets posted:There are many government agencies and corporations that disagree. If you just encrypt your hard drive then that's probably fine
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# ? Jul 25, 2013 15:29 |
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Dell just announced the Precision M3800 and that it will have a 3,200 x 1,800 display. At 4.5 pounds it looks to be a direct 15" rMBP competitor.
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Is anybody aware of a good list of Haswell-gen Ultrabooks that have discrete graphics cards and 1600+ resolution? I need to replace my annoying 2012 S9. edit: Naffer posted:Dell just announced the Precision M3800 and that it will have a 3,200 x 1,800 display. At 4.5 pounds it looks to be a direct 15" rMBP competitor. Oh boy, might go that route. I'm betting $4900. vty fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Jul 25, 2013 |
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Hi everyone, My 5 year old HP dv6933CL laptop is nearly inoperable so I'm in the market for a replacement, yay! Trouble is, I haven't known anything about laptops (or more accurately mobile computers, at this point) since I last bought my computer. I read the OP but would still like some pointers I have since built a desktop so my laptop is not my primary computer anymore. So I don't need something for games or anything high end like that. I am looking at one of those fancy tablet/laptop things with the detachable keyboards. I would like to retain use of Microsoft office as well as have USB ports. Is that unreasonable/expensive? I thought I'd save the thread the target budget stuff. I'm just looking for information at this point.
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# ? Jul 26, 2013 02:36 |
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fookolt posted:drat, so I guess they can't scale it up to laptops. That's a shame. No, they already have scaled it up to laptops and beyond. In fact, this is a scaling-down, the desktop/laptop versions came first. "Kepler" is a codename for a family of 28nm GPUs sharing a common building block, the SMX. To scale the size of the GPU (and therefore its raw compute power), they vary the number of SMX blocks tiled onto a chip. The big deal about Logan is that it's an ARM SoC with a minimum size (one SMX) Kepler GPU, and the minimum Kepler is a whole lotta GPU by ARM tablet/phone standards. For a point of comparison, the GeForce GT 650M used in the current and soon to be obsoleted rMBP 15" is a two-SMX Kepler. (I wouldn't be surprised if the 650M is a lot more than twice as fast as the Logan GPU in practice, though, thanks to clock speeds, power budget, memory performance, and so on.)
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rcman50166 posted:Hi everyone, Wait so your laptop requirements are office and usb ports? I'm pretty sure that applies to pretty much any laptop on the market save maybe a couple weird ones. What is your budget? What screen size do you want? What resolution? How important are color accuracy and viewing angles?Is weight important? Honestly I'm not really sure what exactly you're asking for information about, so at this point all I can do is recommend looking at the ThinkPad T430/T530 for a regular laptop or their inevitably upcoming haswell refreshes (T440/T540), and Dell XPS 12 (haswell labeled NEW XPS 12) or ideapad yoga 13 for convertibles.
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BobHoward posted:No, they already have scaled it up to laptops and beyond. In fact, this is a scaling-down, the desktop/laptop versions came first. "Kepler" is a codename for a family of 28nm GPUs sharing a common building block, the SMX. To scale the size of the GPU (and therefore its raw compute power), they vary the number of SMX blocks tiled onto a chip. The big deal about Logan is that it's an ARM SoC with a minimum size (one SMX) Kepler GPU, and the minimum Kepler is a whole lotta GPU by ARM tablet/phone standards. Thanks for the explanation! That makes a whole lotta sense.
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Delta-Wye posted:If it's on, there is key material in memory: Not a very practical attack, though. A lot of computers unintentionally make it rather difficult to get at the DRAM in order to freeze it. But if anyone actually needs to guard against this on a Mac, turns out there's a way! (One which doesn't require you to shut down and reboot all the time, that is.) Run OS X 10.7.3 or later, turn FileVault 2 full disk encryption on (you need a computer which can do this, which I think means Sandy Bridge or better), and do this in a Terminal window: sudo pmset -a destroyfvkeyonstandby 1 hibernatemode 25 "destroyfvkeyonstandby" does what it says -- when the computer enters standby (sleep or hibernate), its EFI firmware deliberately forgets the FileVault decryption key. Ordinarily it would be remembered during standby as a convenience, so you don't have to retype your password. "hibernatemode 25" alters sleep behavior. The default hibernatemode, 3, lets OS X choose to sleep and later upgrade to hibernate if battery power is low. 25 forces it to always hibernate. Hibernation means the system writes RAM contents to a sleep image on disk, then truly shuts power off (so the DRAM forgets its contents). The combination of these two settings means that after you close the lid and the system finishes hibernating, it's equivalent to a full shutdown from a security perspective. Everything's on an encrypted disk, and the decryption key is no longer known.
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# ? Jul 26, 2013 07:57 |
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BobHoward posted:Not a very practical attack, though. A lot of computers unintentionally make it rather difficult to get at the DRAM in order to freeze it.
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In linux land theres luksSuspend/luksResume, but its usage appears to be pretty rare outside of DIY, likely due to the reasons given by DrDork. The intersection of data that should ever be on a laptop and data that is sensitive enough to warrant worrying about frozen ram is presumably zero.
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