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What hot hatch do you own? This poll is closed. |
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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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20 | 0.00% |
| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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You don't really roast the tires on these cars. The extra oomph would be nice because (the ST anyway) is a REAL dog off the line. Something that ups the torque down low would be really helpful. It's literally my only complaint with the car.
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Jul 14, 2013 17:54
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roger wilco posted:You don't really roast the tires on these cars. The extra oomph would be nice because (the ST anyway) is a REAL dog off the line. Something that ups the torque down low would be really helpful. It's literally my only complaint with the car. How are you launching? The stock ST can hit 0-60 in less than 6 seconds. 5.9 is what I believe Motor Trend got. Without a tune the optimal launch is probably around 2500 RPM or so, to minimize wheel spin. Then most people are shifting by 5000-5500 RPM. With a tune, 2000-2250 RPM is optimal for launches, and 5500 RPM for shifting.
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Jul 14, 2013 18:42
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I just sort of feel like it's really boggy before the turbo spools up. I suppose that's expected with a 2.0. I really don't want it to scream off the line though since it's my wife's DD and she has no interest in pushing the envelope speed-wise while grabbing the groceries at the local Kroger. EDIT: when I was actually going for good launches I was launching at around 2-2300 rpm.
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Jul 14, 2013 18:58
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Not a Turbo Veloster, but still a hatch. Just got it yesterday.
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Jul 14, 2013 22:39
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roger wilco posted:I just sort of feel like it's really boggy before the turbo spools up. I suppose that's expected with a 2.0. I really don't want it to scream off the line though since it's my wife's DD and she has no interest in pushing the envelope speed-wise while grabbing the groceries at the local Kroger. No launch control on the ST?
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Jul 27, 2013 20:03
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DEUCE SLUICE posted:No launch control on the ST? Nope. I've never really bogged it that hard. Unless the ac was on and I really screwed up
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Jul 27, 2013 20:32
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Two hot hatches I'd love to have: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOA5YN6ryz4 But this one's mine, and I think it's swell: 
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Jul 27, 2013 20:51
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 Mine counts, right? 400+ whp '88 Civic. (Dynoed 350ish, but it was doing a burnout on the dyno at the time)
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Jul 27, 2013 22:03
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DEUCE SLUICE posted:No launch control on the ST? Not stock, but the most popular tunes can add it.
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Jul 27, 2013 22:09
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This is still my favorite hot hatch: Grew up driving a mk 2 Golf Driver, now I get to race a proper GTI.
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Jul 27, 2013 22:41
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doogle posted:Mine counts, right? Nope, too fast. That thing rules.
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Jul 27, 2013 23:09
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I think 'hot' is probably too nice of a description for that thing. I'm looking for something between "nuclear" and "widowing."
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Jul 27, 2013 23:11
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Just picked up a Black / Charcoal Grey ST3, this thing is a blast  For biggest/cheapest gains, would it be a Cobb AP and Downpipe?
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Jul 27, 2013 23:18
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idk about that Civic - when I think hot hatch I think of a manufacturer-built car, made in reasonable numbers. One offs for the drag strip don't really count.* *I'm presuming it's for the drag strip because I can't imagine an 88 Civic's front suspension being able to handle even 250 bhp and a corner at the same time.
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Jul 27, 2013 23:57
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Sepist posted:Just picked up a Black / Charcoal Grey ST3, this thing is a blast You need the AP to do anything really. That alone gives some good tuning gains. The downpipe and intercooler are the other bottlenecks. Get your rear motor mount done under the TSB and warranty. It really firms up everything and gets rid of the 1-2 shift bang. parts are fairly back ordered so get on the list at your dealer.
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Jul 28, 2013 00:24
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I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on a Sonic LT with the 1.4L turbo and the 6 speed manual. Should be able to get one decently cheap. I just want a good DD with good mileage, and I love hatchbacks. It's just a little smaller than I'd prefer but I don't think there's anything I like as much for the price. I still have yet to drive one, though. Anybody out there have any feedback?
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Jul 28, 2013 04:33
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when is the Fiesta ST supposed to hit the US? I went down to a Ford dealership last month to
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Jul 28, 2013 04:47
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triple clutcher posted:when is the Fiesta ST supposed to hit the US? I went down to a Ford dealership last month to There are 61 new listed on cars.com, but none have an actual photo. All dealers are scum, every one, no exceptions. I doubt any of the ones listed have actually landed on the lot. Car dealers in general "don't know" what's coming out because they want you to buy something off their lot right now.
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Jul 28, 2013 04:55
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Laranzu posted:You need the AP to do anything really. That alone gives some good tuning gains. The downpipe and intercooler are the other bottlenecks. Thanks I'll check out the TSB. I asked the dealer if the TSB's were up to date and the sales guy said yes, I don't think he actually knew though. Sepist fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Jul 28, 2013 |
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Jul 28, 2013 15:49
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It's actually pretty likely that the motor mount TSB is not done yet because FoMoCo is having trouble with parts availability for a few of the parts needed for the service.
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Jul 28, 2013 15:54
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I'm going in for another purpose tomorrow so I will check on parts status at my local dealer. Not sure if mine had the fix pre-delivery or not, so I'll also check on that.
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Jul 29, 2013 03:32
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Larrymer posted:I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on a Sonic LT with the 1.4L turbo and the 6 speed manual. Should be able to get one decently cheap. I just want a good DD with good mileage, and I love hatchbacks. It's just a little smaller than I'd prefer but I don't think there's anything I like as much for the price. I still have yet to drive one, though. Anybody out there have any feedback? Go drive one and report back, I'd love to hear how it drives. I'm partial to the mazda 2 in that segment but I have a feeling with a turbo the Sonic should be quite a bit more fun.
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Jul 29, 2013 03:59
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triple clutcher posted:when is the Fiesta ST supposed to hit the US? I went down to a Ford dealership last month to I heard straight for a Ford employee's mouth that there were only 12 in the country as of last month. I never heard a concrete time frame, but the general consensus was "later this year or early next year." They're a bit small for me, but it's still a drat-fun little car.
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Jul 29, 2013 17:53
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leica posted:Go drive one and report back, I'd love to hear how it drives. I'm partial to the mazda 2 in that segment but I have a feeling with a turbo the Sonic should be quite a bit more fun. Maybe this weekend. It seems there are more aftermarket parts coming out for them, which is probably a bad thing if I end up getting one. I need a car that is reliable and I don't have to gently caress with every other weekend...
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Jul 29, 2013 22:03
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I'm going in for another purpose tomorrow so I will check on parts status at my local dealer. Not sure if mine had the fix pre-delivery or not, so I'll also check on that. I went in right when service was shutting down so didn't get much answer. First they said that they hadn't heard poo poo, then the TSB only applied if you were actually having issues and I told them I'd keep an eye on it. I don't think I've experienced anything that would warrant a new motor mount. Not really keen on (that particular) dealership as a service option after that.
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Jul 31, 2013 02:23
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I don't think I've experienced anything that would warrant a new motor mount. Make a quick 1-2 shift under moderate acceleration. Your engine will slam all the way back and make a huge bang accompanied by wheel hop. The stock mounts on STs are horrifically flimsy. Its TSB 13-6-10
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Jul 31, 2013 02:38
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Thanks for that -- I'm going to send mine to the dealer and have them replace the motor mount. I did a hard shift when I first got the car and had a "what the heck is this mickey mouse crap?" moment when it made that awful noise. I was looking at aftermarket motor mount but if there's already a TSB on it...
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Jul 31, 2013 18:03
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Definitely schedule a service, but there are people that put their names down in June for the service that have parts back ordered until September.
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Jul 31, 2013 18:25
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Phone posted:And has a torsion beam rear suspension which completely ruins the handling. If only it had the multi-link rear that's in the Focus and NC Miata. But Clarkson thinks it's the best car he's driven in years.  edit I'm definitely getting a Focus, or Fiesta, ST at some point after I graduate next year. I need a car that is less than twenty feet long. Sir Tonk fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Jul 31, 2013 |
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Jul 31, 2013 19:16
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The Focus ST was the first car I ever bought that was both new and my own choice (I always got hand-me-downs that I either never needed or didn't fit to my lifestyle). I was in the market for a hatch because of the people-moving aspect + gear/luggage aspect. I had looked at the MS3, Abarth, ST, and even the Juke. ST just felt fun to drive everywhere and even when I'm being liberal with the gas, got better gas mileage than my truck on the highway. Living in Illinois though, I cannot fathom why they put the Eagle F1 summer tires on them without an all-season option. I'm saving up to get a new set of all-seasons for the inevitable weather change and saving my Eagles for the summers/autoX, with the idea to get new rims for the summers when the time is right. After that I'm picking up mudflaps and hopefully the TSB that Ford put out for the 1-2, 2-3 engine bang will finish out what I want to do this year to it. I honestly wanted the Abarth because its a blast to drive, but drat that thing needs a sixth gear. The seating position is a bit weird too, but I do like what they did with the pedals for heel-toe downshifting.
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Jul 31, 2013 19:41
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Sir Tonk posted:But Clarkson thinks it's the best car he's driven in years. Consensus across every single review I can find is that the Fiesta ST is the best in the sector right now. In the EVO group test of the 208 GTI, Clio RS, Fiesta ST, Nismo Juke and (the far more expensive) JCW Mini, the Fiesta took the crown. Despite being slowest in a straight line, it lapped their test course fastest of all; while being described as the most fun/playful chassis of the group. I don't think the handling is an issue. sadnessboner fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Jul 31, 2013 |
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Jul 31, 2013 23:24
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My friend with the regular 1.6 Fiesta just put the $250 Ford Racing suspension on the car (new struts and springs) and it is an absolute riot to drive! And it isn't bad on these terrible AZ roads. Still has quite a bit of roll, it could use bigger sways probably.
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Jul 31, 2013 23:43
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mafoose posted:My friend with the regular 1.6 Fiesta just put the $250 Ford Racing suspension on the car (new struts and springs) and it is an absolute riot to drive! Here is a tip - our road quality here in Arizona is phenomenal compared to most of the rest of the country. 
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Aug 1, 2013 00:06
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Yeah, I was just saying that the Focus' scissor suspension is a magic suspension (that isn't magnetic dampers). I drive a Mazda2, and it's a blast to drive around like I stole it.
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Aug 1, 2013 00:22
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My buddy who works at the local Ford dealer chain just messaged me, he's got a guy looking for a Speed6, the call of the ST is getting stronger...
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Aug 1, 2013 00:46
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mafoose posted:My friend with the regular 1.6 Fiesta just put the $250 Ford Racing suspension on the car (new struts and springs) and it is an absolute riot to drive! Do you happen to have a link to this? It might tide me over until I give in to an ST.
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Aug 1, 2013 00:55
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bobfather posted:Definitely schedule a service, but there are people that put their names down in June for the service that have parts back ordered until September. Ugh that's bad I guess but I suppose I can wait a bit on it. It's not like I'm tearing it up with the car. I just have to shift gingerly. Still I may just get the aftermarket jobbie. The more I think about it the more it bothers me and my wife would never notice (she is the safest driver I know and never ever gets on it.)
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Aug 1, 2013 04:44
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BlackMK4 posted:Here is a tip - our road quality here in Arizona is phenomenal compared to most of the rest of the country. xsf421 posted:Do you happen to have a link to this? It might tide me over until I give in to an ST.
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Aug 1, 2013 04:54
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xsf421 posted:Do you happen to have a link to this? It might tide me over until I give in to an ST. Maybe this is what you are looking for: http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=12195
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Aug 1, 2013 08:01
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My new hot hatch, my favorite hot hatch.
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