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Roxors posted:So O'Reilly did a bit a while ago decrying Obama's Trayvon Martin comments. It was pretty racist, and he recently got called out on it by Chris Hayes, who pointed out that a lot of the crap about how black people have a violent culture is more related to poverty, and the hypocrisy of caring about black murders in Chicago only when it can be used against people upset about the Martin case. Chris Hayes just did a pretty good segment on his show based on this gawker article, which I thought did a pretty good job of pointing out just how dumb the whole argument is. Also, there may be decent Reddit subreddits but that's like feeling through a turd for undigested corn - I'd rather just go elsewhere, you know?
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I don't think that rabid Reddit lolbertarians are even as common as people think they are. I think it's more likely that they're just EXTREMELY vocal people with little to no exposure to the real world that have nothing to do all day. So in other words, they're pundits. 
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Jul 31, 2013 03:36
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Reddit libertarians comment on all the ads.
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Jul 31, 2013 04:33
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Maybe I'm some kind of weird fringe case but I've never had a Reddit link ever show up as a search result. Is this a consequence of me never, ever visiting that cesspit of a site?
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Jul 31, 2013 06:13
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How are u posted:Maybe I'm some kind of weird fringe case but I've never had a Reddit link ever show up as a search result. Is this a consequence of me never, ever visiting that cesspit of a site? I can't comment on the fringe case, as I'm much the same, but unless I search for an obviously Reddit term (Ask me anything is the only one I can remember) it's never been a result for me either.
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Jul 31, 2013 06:16
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It's safe to say 99% of the people who visit Reddit do so to look at lame Advice Animal image macros and funny pictures of cats, and not one of those people is likely to be aware that the site once(?) hosted links to softcore kiddie porn. I guess what I'm trying to say is that there is good and bad on Reddit.
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Jul 31, 2013 06:26
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I don't get why people sometimes think Reddit is one giant homogenous community where everyone on it knows about the terrible stuff going on in other parts of it. I mean SA is a fraction the size of Reddit and I have no idea what is going on in most of the sub-forums as I never go to them.
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Jul 31, 2013 13:00
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The sub forums you don't go to are actually just hot links to Reddit
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Jul 31, 2013 13:25
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Amused to Death posted:I don't get why people sometimes think Reddit is one giant homogenous community where everyone on it knows about the terrible stuff going on in other parts of it. I mean SA is a fraction the size of Reddit and I have no idea what is going on in most of the sub-forums as I never go to them. Yeah, basically this. I go to r/Civ and r/AskHistorians, for example, and it's not like I'm inundated with people advocating we abolish the Minimum Wage or anything, there's not even any noticeable creeps. On the other hand, FYAD is terrifying.
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Jul 31, 2013 13:29
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I don't know why anyone would spend time on a site that is filled with racists an homophobes. Did you know that somethingawful(!) dot com has a sub forum full of racists and homophobes that the mods just completely ignore? Obviously I would never visit that cesspool of a site.
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Jul 31, 2013 13:39
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The worst website is the last one you were on.
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Jul 31, 2013 13:44
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I don't go anywhere where there are racists, homophobes or misogynists.. I froze myself in a block of ice and had the ice placed in a man-sized safe.
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Jul 31, 2013 14:11
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SedanChair posted:I don't go anywhere where there are racists, homophobes or misogynists.. I froze myself in a block of ice and had the ice placed in a man-sized safe. Man sized huh? I guess women aren't welcome in your little misogyny refrigerator.
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Jul 31, 2013 14:18
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How are u posted:Maybe I'm some kind of weird fringe case but I've never had a Reddit link ever show up as a search result. Is this a consequence of me never, ever visiting that cesspit of a site? Same here. I don't think I even knew what Reddit was until I read about that teacher getting busted for being a creeper. My aggregate for god knows how long has always been FARK.
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Jul 31, 2013 18:15
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SedanChair posted:I don't go anywhere where there are racists, homophobes or misogynists.. I froze myself in a block of ice and had the ice placed in a man-sized safe. Or you could just go to a cafe and play some chess with an out of work author.
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Jul 31, 2013 18:36
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Beamed posted:...it's not like I'm inundated with people advocating we abolish the Minimum Wage or anything... Speaking of this, it's obviously today's talking point in all the usual outlets, what with the fast food workers strike and such. It was weird flipping back and forth today between Herman Cain and Diane Rehm and just absorbing the difference between level of discourse and facts being laid out. Cain was citing a 12 year old kid who's "done the math" as evidence that "even a 12 year old can figure this out", completely ignoring the possibility that perhaps conservative economists think like 12-year-olds. Every study I've read regarding raising the minimum wage shows that the exact opposite things happen that conservatives say will happen.
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Jul 31, 2013 18:58
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Do you have any of those studies handy? I have a pretty open-minded friend who is on the fence about the minimum wage so if I could direct a few good studies his way it might convince him. When I told him about Australia's ~$15 minimum wage and that their unemployment rate is about 4.5% he almost poo poo his pants.
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Jul 31, 2013 19:02
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BiggerBoat posted:Speaking of this, it's obviously today's talking point in all the usual outlets, what with the fast food workers strike and such. There used to be studies on the Cato Institute website acknowledging that while theoretically a minimum wage might lower employment, in practice the minimum wage in the US was already below the market wage and thus raising it made no difference. I don't think that study is on the Cato website any more.
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surrender posted:Reddit is pretty good when you unsubscribe from the defaults and subscribe to ShitRedditSays and/or specialized subs for hobbies. One of my friends reads Reddit for stupid cat pictures and video game stuff and has told me repeatedly that all of the kiddie porn was a essentially a false flag attack by ShitRedditSays 
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Jul 31, 2013 19:52
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It's funny that they keep trying to find 12-year-olds. You would think they might notice that those kids turn into flaming liberals eventually. But then again, those kids' conversion stories tend to be published in the lie-beral media, so maybe they just stand around at CPAC saying "hum I haven't seen Jonathan in a while..."
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Jul 31, 2013 20:06
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Unzip and Attack posted:Do you have any of those studies handy? I have a pretty open-minded friend who is on the fence about the minimum wage so if I could direct a few good studies his way it might convince him. When I told him about Australia's ~$15 minimum wage and that their unemployment rate is about 4.5% he almost poo poo his pants. quote:Here’s a graph of monthly unemployment rates from January 1948—December 2005 with an indicator for every time that the minimum wage was raised. http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/10/did-the-minimum-wage-increase-destroy-jobs/?_r=0 http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/economic-intelligence/2012/07/20/an-increase-in-the-minimum-wage-is-long-overdue http://www.nationaljournal.com/whitehouse/is-the-minimum-wage-a-job-crusher-or-a-job-creator-20130214 http://www.cepr.net/documents/publications/min-wage-2013-02.pdf
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Jul 31, 2013 21:04
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SedanChair posted:It's funny that they keep trying to find 12-year-olds. You would think they might notice that those kids turn into flaming liberals eventually. But then again, those kids' conversion stories tend to be published in the lie-beral media, so maybe they just stand around at CPAC saying "hum I haven't seen Jonathan in a while..." I wonder what the response would be if Rachel Maddow pulled a 12 year old out of some Detroit heroin den and had him/her speak about social mobility?
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Popular Thug Drink posted:I wonder what the response would be if Rachel Maddow pulled a 12 year old out of some Detroit heroin den and had him/her speak about social mobility? "Look, a brainwashed thuglet."
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Jul 31, 2013 22:28
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Popular Thug Drink posted:I wonder what the response would be if Rachel Maddow pulled a 12 year old out of some Detroit heroin den and had him/her speak about social mobility? Bonus points either way if the kid is black, female, hispanic, gay, bipolar or the product of a single parent household. Kidding aside, I think the response would rightfully be "liberal Democrats are guiding their economic policy with the mindset of a twelve year old child" and not "even a twelve year old knows this poo poo." Plus, I doubt Maddow would stoop to such foolishness beyond an "isn't this cute" or a "my daddy died in Iraq" sort of way. Meanwhile, people like Cain posit that 12 year old children know more about how the minimum wage works and then ask, without any sense of irony, who you'd rather believe: some home-schooled pre-teen who discovered math or or some disgraced liberal shill like Dan Rather.
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The absolute best part of the current craziness of the GOP base is seeing them turn and revolt on their handlers, it's really something to behold. On the Hugh Hewitt show the past couple days he has been bringing on people to talk about the Common Core standards because he wanted to know the reasoning behind the opposition. Hugh has a few conservative teacher friends who support it and was legitimately confused was to why it suddenly has so much opposition among conservatives, you see Hugh is an old-school neocon and is completely and utterly out of touch with what the GOP has become. He comes from an era when opposing a certain policy meant you at least had to have a semblance of an ideological disagreement rather than sheer spite and pettiness. Anyways, Hugh opened it up to calls and immediately got the  THEY'RE INDOCTRINATIN MAH KIDS and  They forced my kid to vote for Obama!!!1 to which Hugh meekly responded "oh no, I know many teachers and they're all nice people." Then he brings on some guy from AEI and asks him point blank what the source of the opposition is and he flat out admits "Well the opposition to this really started to ramp up once Obama went out and started promoting it." I don't know if Hugh honestly doesn't "get" the GOP nowdays or if he's just trying to naively pretend that it's still the 1990s. The other example is on the Jason Lewis show the past couple days with regards to the plan to shut down the government to stop Obamacare. Jason Lewis is a rabid Ron Paul libertarian who is accustomed to always being able to call RINO on anyone and everyone that isn't as ideologically pure as he is. The problem is that Jason isn't completely off the deep end and still realizes that certain things must be done to actually stay in office, so he correctly pointed out that the shutdown the government over Obamacare plan is complete idiocy from a political standpoint. Of course his callers vehemently disagreed and called him a RINO, today he came on sounding all butthurt and started criticizing the tea party  .Sidenote: I called into Hugh Hewitt today to debunk some incorrect info he has been spouting about gay priests and got "well I'm not a theologian" as an answer. MaxxBot fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Aug 1, 2013 |
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MaxxBot posted:Sidenote: I called into Hugh Hewitt today to debunk some incorrect info he has been spouting about gay priests and got "well I'm not a theologian" as an answer. I love how Radio Jocks set themselves up as authorities and immediately have to retreat if called out. Someone should let this guy know that this irrational resistance to education is the end result of their antielitism and anti-intellectualism. Today on Dennis & Judy they were talking about Boomer-grade computer problems (especially the 'FBI WANTS YOUR MONEY' virus) - they just accepted some Caller's BS that being a 'User' not an 'Administrator' prevents hijacks - and Dennis said people who commit this fraud should be executed. In the last 20 minutes a caller who claimed to be an 'antivirus engineer' finally got through and corrected them with some (worst case) information.
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So tonight on the way home I was listening to local boob Jason Lewis and from what I can tell he was articulating the new establishment line of attack against the Tea Party. He spent the first ten minutes challenging the Tea Party to call in to his show and tell him exactly what it was that they didn't like about Obamacare, and also spent time talking about how whatever chance they had to defeat Obamacare was gone and that the idea of shutting down the government to try and defeat it was stupid. He p. much spent the entire show defending his position and attacking Obama wherever he could. Interesting shift for a right-wing hack. Wonder where he got the idea?
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So on Facebook I saw a post from Glenn Beck that indicated he was standing in solidarity with Rush over I guess tearing apart the GOP. quote:Rush is spot on here. And it's up to the American people to stand behind the independent voices fighting for the Constitution and conservative principles in the GOP. If we don't, the country will be over. quote:Rush lashed out at the GOP saying a “battle” for the Republican Party is underway between “mainstream” Republicans and true conservatives who rely on principle over politics. Meanwhile, he lambasted President Obama for “relishing the opportunity to put into play what the leftists have only dreamed about in faculty lounges for 50 to 75 years.” There was an article about it in Glenn Beck's website that basically said "be informed, pay attention to what's going on, don't vote stupid." He was lamenting that so many "mainstream Republicans" and leftists are trying their damnedest to discredit the Tea Party and was calling for the "real conservatives" to take over the Republican party from the inside. The article was completely and absolutely devoid over anything policy-related. There was absolutely nothing on what you should believe, it was basically just a quiet suggestion that Tea Party voters are informed, everybody else is not. Informed, smart voters (i.e., people that agree with Glenn Beck) OBVIOUSLY must agree with everything Glenn Beck says and everybody that doesn't agree is OBVIOUSLY a misinformed twit. This is like peak tribalism right here. "You can either agree with me or be wrong. Don't even ask what you're agreeing to, just agree."
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Today marks 25 years since Rush started in syndication. 25 years since the start of talk radio as we know it  You know, there wouldn't be threads like these if it wasn't for him
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Regarding the "Even a 12-year-old..." thing, it really is a mainstay of their political culture. Current Breitbart honcho and perpetual wanker Ben Shapiro got his start by writing a book of conservative wisdom while in his early teens, and CPAC famously had kid speakers, one of which basically grew out of it publicly (that or the libtard brainwashing centers, i.e schools finally got to him!). That they can do that and still insist that the other side is keen on indoctrinating youngsters is one of the wonders of cognitive dissonance.
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Lack of cognitive dissonance, actually. But your point remains valid. Republican rhetoric is 99.999999999% projection at this point.
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Vertical Lime posted:Today marks 25 years since Rush started in syndication. I caught the first 45 minutes of his show today, he was doing a pretty apolitical retrospective on how he got to where he is and what he thinks about the art form of doing radio. He would be great to listen to if he just didn't do political stuff which just seems like means to an end for him in light of his radio career discussion.
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Sephyr posted:Regarding the "Even a 12-year-old..." thing, it really is a mainstay of their political culture. Current Breitbart honcho and perpetual wanker Ben Shapiro got his start by writing a book of conservative wisdom while in his early teens, and CPAC famously had kid speakers, one of which basically grew out of it publicly (that or the libtard brainwashing centers, i.e schools finally got to him!). Conservative thought loves passing itself off as basic common sense, because that way wildly simplified solutions to complex problems can be spun as the easiest and best. Of course a child who hasn't developed the ability to think abstractly is going to be attracted to "lower taxes are good because then mom & dad have more money", and since that is so simple that a child could understand it, therefore people who disagree are either dumber than children or pipe smoking elitists who wear tweed jackets and think with books instead of common sense. The #tcot poo poo on twitter is an extension of this, since its easy to express oversimplified opinions that ignore the realities of the political, social, and economic landscapes in less than 140 characters. Disagree with "taxes are bad because that is my money and I want to buy a boat Obama #tcot"? Well then you are clearly just jealous of me and want me to pay for roads out of spite!
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Guys, do you remember the scourge of Obamaphones? Well, the National Review sure does!
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Sir Tonk posted:Guys, do you remember the scourge of Obamaphones? Well, the National Review sure does! The article has a lot of stdh.txt sounding stuff but I don't have any specific rebuttals handy so I'll just say: Good job, you've revealed it's possible to game a program that costs 2 billion dollars while providing an essential service to poor people and the fact that you've done so and "heard stories" about people getting 10 of them qualifies it as the sort of thing that requires an exposé. I'll go ahead and assume that this was all done in good faith and with the ubiased spirit of a concerned and impartial reporter...so now I'll very much look forward to the series of articles like this one on every single military contract that costs more than 2 billion dollars and how those programs and their expenses aren't subject to much oversight either.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:The article has a lot of stdh.txt sounding stuff but I don't have any specific rebuttals handy so I'll just say: Good job, you've revealed it's possible to game a program that costs 2 billion dollars while providing an essential service to poor people and the fact that you've done so and "heard stories" about people getting 10 of them qualifies it as the sort of thing that requires an exposé. Yeah. I don't really get the point. Who wants one 'obamaphone', let alone 3? Just having a legitimate desire for one is enough proof for me that your economic situation is pretty loving grim.
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Sir Tonk posted:Guys, do you remember the scourge of Obamaphones? Well, the National Review sure does! Cool, not one single word about how you have to pass state-based criteria (congrats being a hypocritical conservative living in a liberal nanny state like New York) in order to qualify for a private organization to commit welfare fraud on your behalf. This is the exact same process by which old people with a limp get free government hoverounds. It's obviously all Obama's fault. I remember a time when I believed that contemporary journalism was about telling the truth. How naive I was! Good Citizen posted:Yeah. I don't really get the point. Who wants one 'obamaphone', let alone 3? Just having a legitimate desire for one is enough proof for me that your economic situation is pretty loving grim. The point is that Obama is giving YOUR TAX DOLLARS to shiftless minorities.
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Sir Tonk posted:Guys, do you remember the scourge of Obamaphones? Well, the National Review sure does! What I learned from this article: -The private sector is rife with corruption and fraud. And he's actually right, those guys hunt down people like vultures around here to try to sign them up as well. Solution: actual government phones.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:I do not know if he is being literal or sarcastic "If Republicans lost 100% of the women vote we could still win if we changed the rules so that women can't vote."
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