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Liquid Dinosaur posted:If this is Europe, and they're Europeans, what ocean could it possibly be? Did they all come from North America?
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dirty nub posted:They must have come from multiple places because mikasa's mother was oriental and I guess everyone else is Anglo Saxon?
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Aug 5, 2013 21:23
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Paracelsus posted:They come across as more continental Germanic than specifically Anglo-Saxon. I thought it was just a hodgepodge of Northern and Eastern Europe. I'm seeing lots of Germanic and Slavic names.
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Aug 5, 2013 21:34
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Just look at the list of prominent names; Eren is probably Turkish and Jaeger is pretty germanic; Ackermann is German (or Old English according to Wikipedia), Armin is a German name and Arlelt is apparently not a name at all, Annie is a common enough name in many languages, but Leonhard is Old German, Reiner comes from Old Norse or Old German, Braun is German, Berthold is German, Ilse is German, Kirstein isn't an actual name according to Google, but Kirsten is a German name, Petra is Greek...but common in Germany. It's pretty much all German names. Sure occasionally you get names that aren't obviously German like Jean or Ymir, but even then there are rarely any other characters with similar etymology to create a pattern, and they often have Germanic surnames (Eren and Jean do, Ymir doesn't have any so far). Naming-wise, all signs point to Germany.
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Aug 5, 2013 23:16
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Ymir is Norse, and there's probably an old German version of the name (like Odin/Woten).
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Aug 5, 2013 23:20
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Insurrectionist posted:Just look at the list of prominent names; Eren is probably Turkish and Jaeger is pretty germanic; Ackermann is German (or Old English according to Wikipedia), Armin is a German name and Arlelt is apparently not a name at all, Annie is a common enough name in many languages, but Leonhard is Old German, Reiner comes from Old Norse or Old German, Braun is German, Berthold is German, Ilse is German, Kirstein isn't an actual name according to Google, but Kirsten is a German name, Petra is Greek...but common in Germany. It's pretty much all German names. Sure occasionally you get names that aren't obviously German like Jean or Ymir, but even then there are rarely any other characters with similar etymology to create a pattern, and they often have Germanic surnames (Eren and Jean do, Ymir doesn't have any so far). Naming-wise, all signs point to Germany. I think it's probably a mistake to try and tie things in with the real world in any way. It seems just as likely that the names are just the result of the Japanese author wanting a bunch of white European characters. I doubt that history in the world of Attack on Titan coincides with real world history in any way, and there's no reason to think that actual, real-world countries exist/existed in the story either.
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Aug 5, 2013 23:39
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Ytlaya posted:I think it's probably a mistake to try and tie things in with the real world in any way. It seems just as likely that the names are just the result of the Japanese author wanting a bunch of white European characters. I doubt that history in the world of Attack on Titan coincides with real world history in any way, and there's no reason to think that actual, real-world countries exist/existed in the story either. Also the author just could've thought that German names sound totally rad. Seems to be a Japanese thing [citation needed].
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Aug 5, 2013 23:57
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Reading various nationalities into the romanization of words when the author called his manga "Attack on Titan" is iffy at best. I'm pretty sure Eren is actually meant to be Aaron. Also using inaccurate and superficial ideas about foreign cultures as a kind of style gloss isn't just a Japanese thing!
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Aug 6, 2013 00:11
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Elotana posted:Reading various nationalities into the romanization of words when the author called his manga "Attack on Titan" is iffy at best. I'm pretty sure Eren is actually meant to be Aaron. Is Bertholdt "Fubar" the actual official romanization? Because why in the world would you choose "Fubar" instead of "Hubar/Hoover/Huber" or just about anything else that isn't an acronym for "hosed up beyond all recognition"?
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Aug 6, 2013 00:15
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Ytlaya posted:Is Bertholdt "Fubar" the actual official romanization? Because why in the world would you choose "Fubar" instead of "Hubar/Hoover/Huber" or just about anything else that isn't an acronym for "hosed up beyond all recognition"? As a joke? I was hoping that or some sort of error.
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Aug 6, 2013 00:20
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Elotana posted:Also using inaccurate and superficial ideas about foreign cultures as a kind of style gloss isn't just a Japanese thing! I didn't say anything about inaccuracy or superficial ideas. Just that the Japanese seem to think German names sound totally awesome. Or a number of mangaka, at least. (FMA or Bleach come to mind.) As a matter of fact, German names DO sound totally awesome. There I said it 
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Aug 6, 2013 00:21
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Ytlaya posted:Is Bertholdt "Fubar" the actual official romanization? Because why in the world would you choose "Fubar" instead of "Hubar/Hoover/Huber" or just about anything else that isn't an acronym for "hosed up beyond all recognition"? Just checked my copy of Vol. 5, it's Bertolt Hoover. No Problem. E: Bertolt is the best name because it's easy to forget, much like Bert
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Aug 6, 2013 00:29
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Mio Bison posted:Just checked my copy of Vol. 5, it's Bertolt Hoover. No Problem. Ah, good. Wanted to quote this one guy from the anime thread, because I found his speculation pretty funny: Freakazoid_ posted:To that end, the only two people who could be colossal titan are Pixis and Conny, both whom have bald heads. Colossal titan is probably not Conny, because he was present when the colossal titan attacked. That leaves Pixis, which is such a shock without proper corroboration. I can sort of see how you might think Pixis is suspicious or something, but Conny being the colossal titan would have been even stranger/funnier than Bertholdt.
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Aug 6, 2013 00:31
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Bert being the colossal titan is pretty much perfect. Bert isn't goofy, funny or weird. He isn't particularly cool, suave or charismatic either. He's not the best at Military Life, he's also not the worst. Things go crazy all around him and he's just sort of getting through life the best he can. That's what makes his titan form so great. He's not just average, he's so average if he didn't exist nobody would notice. Because he never does anything and he has like five lines. And he's the most iconic character from the series
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Aug 6, 2013 00:51
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Vincent Valentine posted:Bert being the colossal titan is pretty much perfect. Bert isn't goofy, funny or weird. He isn't particularly cool, suave or charismatic either. He's not the best at Military Life, he's also not the worst. Things go crazy all around him and he's just sort of getting through life the best he can. Bert is the best at what he does. It's just that he only does one thing, and not terribly often at that.
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Aug 6, 2013 01:30
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Isn't Bert #3 in the rankings for their class, behind only Reiner and Mikasa (who is such a freak of nature she practically doesn't count)? That's hardly average.
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Aug 6, 2013 01:34
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Yeah, it goes Mikasa->Reiner->Bert->Annie->Eren. Ymir was purposefully keeping herself out of the top 10 so Christa could get in though, so who knows if she would've made the top 5.
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Aug 6, 2013 01:46
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Honestly that just makes it worse. He's a titan killing prodigy but he's so loving boring that it's just, you know, whatever.
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Aug 6, 2013 02:15
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Honestly I still just like that Mikasa beats three (at the time) titan-humans for the top spot. I mean, we have no real proof that their titan-ness gives them any edge other than regeneration (though you could argue that regeneration would do a lot for increasing the speed of muscle growth and training) but still. The next three people are loving titans and Mikasa just casually beats them out. Especially since, as I recall, none of them ever suggested they held back to avoid top spot like Ymir.
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Aug 6, 2013 02:17
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It probably helps that Reiner and Bert had a head-start in 3-D gear training since they were using it 5 years prior to the current story.
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Aug 6, 2013 02:23
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RyuujinBlueZ posted:Honestly I still just like that Mikasa beats three (at the time) titan-humans for the top spot. I mean, we have no real proof that their titan-ness gives them any edge other than regeneration (though you could argue that regeneration would do a lot for increasing the speed of muscle growth and training) but still. The next three people are loving titans and Mikasa just casually beats them out. Especially since, as I recall, none of them ever suggested they held back to avoid top spot like Ymir. I mostly don't mind wherever this story goes and always roll my eyes when people make "I hope they don't X" statements, but man, I hope Mikasa is a totally ordinary human being. I mean, apart from being a prodigy.
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Aug 6, 2013 02:45
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It's because she's the last (half) Asian. No but seriously I hope she's just a normal human an this doesn't result in some power creep of everyone being a Titan and having special powers. It's also possible that Eren's father injected her with something.
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Aug 6, 2013 02:50
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:I mostly don't mind wherever this story goes and always roll my eyes when people make "I hope they don't X" statements, but man, I hope Mikasa is a totally ordinary human being. I mean, apart from being a prodigy. Ditto. I want her monster strength to come from her twisted world view and nothing else. She's just really drat good at killing titans, and that's that. I mean, she wouldn't even be the only character like that since "Good At Titan Murder" is basically Levi's schtick too.
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Aug 6, 2013 03:03
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So It Goes posted:You guys care an awful lot about viewers of a different medium experiencing the story the exact same and "correct" way as you did in a different medium. Who cares? Reminds me of Game of Thrones book readers. It's because TV viewers of all forms tend to be dumb as bricks and don't loving pay attention. Also I'm not really liking how the anime isn't nearly as graphic as the manga. It's disappointing.
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Aug 6, 2013 03:27
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GreenBuckanneer posted:It's because TV viewers of all forms tend to be dumb as bricks and don't loving pay attention. Actually, I didn't really detect any differences between the "graphicness" of both mediums. The manga is also full of "putting in mouth/carrying toward mouth, then cut-away" moments.
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Aug 6, 2013 03:31
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It also has plenty of full page devourin'.
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Aug 6, 2013 03:34
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Kokoro Wish posted:Actually, I didn't really detect any differences between the "graphicness" of both mediums. The manga is also full of "putting in mouth/carrying toward mouth, then cut-away" moments. Every time it cuts away, and the manga is way more graphic about this.
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Aug 6, 2013 03:35
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Every time it cuts away, and the manga is way more graphic about this. This is probably just a TV thing. I've seen already the tell tale black shadows that indicate the censorship being removed on the blu rays, so i guess we'll see it eventually if we have a spare grand or two lying around.
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Aug 6, 2013 03:45
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I feel like i should re-read the manga or something, because I don't really remember some of this poo poo at all. Also I kind of think Mikasa is a secret titan who knows more than she's said. The top 5 people in the trainee program, how many are confirmed titans? That's right, four. And Mikasa is #1. As a kid she promptly crushed the handle of the knife in her hand, and broke wood simply by controlling her muscles to propel her forward. There's no way she's normal in a series that tries to back itself up with facts. Ytlaya posted:I think it's probably a mistake to try and tie things in with the real world in any way. It seems just as likely that the names are just the result of the Japanese author wanting a bunch of white European characters. I doubt that history in the world of Attack on Titan coincides with real world history in any way, and there's no reason to think that actual, real-world countries exist/existed in the story either. The anime EXPLICITLY says that Mikasa is "asian" and they are a race of humans that came into the walls from "asia" There's no reason not to think this is actually dystopian and in the future. GreenBuckanneer fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Aug 6, 2013 |
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Aug 6, 2013 03:57
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Prison Warden posted:This is probably just a TV thing. I've seen already the tell tale black shadows that indicate the censorship being removed on the blu rays, so i guess we'll see it eventually if we have a spare grand or two lying around. There has been a lot of pretty conspicuous masking, though I still get the feeling that some stuff - say, the panel depicting Levi forearm-deep in both of Titan Annie's eyeballs - won't be making it to the anime at all.
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Aug 6, 2013 04:50
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I don't think Mikasa's a titan now, but I bet that sometime in the future the titan-camp will decide that she'd make a pretty bitchin' titan and want to kidnap her with the intention of getting her to work for their side. Like a "If you work with us, we'll make you a titan! You'll be able to protect Eren better! Come to the dark side!" situation. Then lots of dramatically shaded anime faces can be had by all.
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Aug 6, 2013 05:28
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Unfortunately the Evil Titan Village will have a severe lapse of good judgement and send Snidely Schmidtlash and Muttley Petersen to capture her, and it will turn into a wacky tournament arc somehow that lasts over 50 chapters. Then Sasha eats the prize lol, everyone loses!
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Aug 6, 2013 05:57
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Do we know why the trees are so goddamned big? Are there normal-sized trees inside of them? Do they dissolve into steam the moment you cut them down?
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Aug 6, 2013 18:15
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They dissolve into smoke, obviously.
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Aug 6, 2013 18:19
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From the anime thread:Elotana posted:Minor manga spoiler: a character later implies that they're gay, also in a matter-of-fact "no big deal" way. Does anyone know who he's referring to/can link the page with this?
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Aug 6, 2013 19:48
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Genocyber posted:From the anime thread: I can't remember the page or chapter, but it's when Ymir and Reiner are talking in castle Utgrad. Ymir: Oh its you, Reiner. What are you doing, sneaking up girls in the middle of the night with lewd intentions? Reiner: What a suprise I didn't think I looked the kind of guy who was interested in girls. By the way, I don't think your the kind of women whose interested in boys either. Ymir: Oh really  Reiner making jokes about marrying Christa and what was revealed about him recently of course complicates matters. Right now I think it's possible that the "soldier" is strait (as part of his self deception) and the "warrior" is not. Pensive fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Aug 6, 2013 |
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Aug 6, 2013 19:56
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On that note, I read somewhere that Isayama had confirmed on his website that Ymir and Christa are gay. Is this true, for the Japanese speakers here? Also, Reiner might be bisexual? 
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Aug 6, 2013 20:00
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Pensive posted:I can't remember the page or chapter, but it's when Ymir and Reiner are talking in castle Utgrad. Oh yeah, I remember that scene now. And since I binged through the manga, I was a bit confused since there it's hinted he's gay, but recent stuff suggests he's straight. I like your idea that it's part of his split personality thing.
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Aug 6, 2013 20:02
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Autumncomet posted:On that note, I read somewhere that Isayama had confirmed on his website that Ymir and Christa are gay. Is this true, for the Japanese speakers here? Ymir's bio on the official manga website says that she's in love with Christa. I'm fairly sure the word used only applies to romantic love.
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I interpreted that line as "I'm not interested in romantic pursuits" not as "I don't like girls I like boys." But he used that to call ymir out on wanting to be with christa.
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