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ShaqDiesel posted:Comic-con? Pfahh, that would only be uncomfortable for the fan girls who fell for the ol' spicy lemoncake. Although, to be fair I can't imagine being GRRM and anything not being uncomfortable. You win this round.
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Skeleton Jelly posted:To be fair, 15 isn't statutory rape in a lot of countries, even including ones in Western Europe and Latin America to this date. The fact that the Gurm likes to write about sex lives of 15 year-olds is creepy as hell, but statutory rape isn't really a clear-cut line like that. I think even creepier than the age stuff, which is understandable given the "middle ages" kind of feel (although not the way GRRM writes it. The detail is extremely unnecessary and unwanted (just have it offscreen, damnit!)), is his obsession with everybody's "maidenhead". Every chapter there's something about she's a maiden, how's her maidenhead?, maiden maiden maiden.... it's gross. It makes admitting that I read this series kind of embarrassing. Edit: Well that, and a whole boatload of other issues. stratdax fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Aug 9, 2013 |
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I bought Game of Thrones/ASOIAF books on amazon, so there's a permanent digital record of me purchasing "13 year olds losing their 'maidenhead': a novel by a guy that just looks like he would write this kind of poo poo". I can never run for public office because a few years ago a friend said "hey man, you should read these, they're full of political intrigue and stuff".
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# ? Aug 9, 2013 13:36 |
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Just run for President anyway. Obama admitted to cocaine use, and with the recent success of HBO's Game of Thrones, pedophilia and rape and capons are mainstream.
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# ? Aug 9, 2013 14:33 |
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:I bought Game of Thrones/ASOIAF books on amazon, so there's a permanent digital record of me purchasing "13 year olds losing their 'maidenhead': a novel by a guy that just looks like he would write this kind of poo poo". Just say you bought them as a birthday gift for a frenemy.
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# ? Aug 9, 2013 14:34 |
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"I can't read" = instant victory in the south, Midwest, and amongst the coveted TVIV demographic. My cover story is flawless.
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# ? Aug 9, 2013 15:03 |
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I crawl imgur for your amusement.
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# ? Aug 9, 2013 18:25 |
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I wonder how many trash bags of $20s* it would take to get Gurm to show up at The Gathering of the Juggalos. I feel like he'd fit right in. * This is reportedly how they really pay people.
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# ? Aug 9, 2013 19:04 |
I remember when I first read GoT, I thougt the sex scenes were just there because GRRM didn't want to cut any scnenes or something. I think the first time I suspected they were supposed to be titilating was when Dany started tittyfucking comotose Drogo.
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Morkyz posted:I remember when I first read GoT, I thougt the sex scenes were just there because GRRM didn't want to cut any scnenes or something. Thanks for the mammaries. Pretty sure I blocked that out for a reason, bub.
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# ? Aug 9, 2013 21:14 |
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:No no, get Michael Shannon. Then everyone will get all amped because Michael loving Shannon's on the scene, and then ~Darkstar~ Michael Shannon would do great as Victarion. He already has a permanent angry look of being poo poo on.
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# ? Aug 9, 2013 23:27 |
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I still find it funny how many people (especially show watchers) think Dany and Drogo were a great couple, when he basically just kept raping her until she "liked" it. Then again, this is the series where people think that Sansa and Sandor should gently caress, so I guess every fan is broken in some way. E: VVVV I actually thought some parts of the show were more rapey. The first time they have sex, in the book she eventually says yes, obviously under duress, but in the show she doesn't stop saying no. Although I guess the ageing up and the fact that they seem to drop the rapey vibe earlier in the show than the book makes it so show watchers wouldn't be as skeeved out. Bulletproof Tiger fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Aug 9, 2013 |
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Bulletproof Tiger posted:I still find it funny how many people (especially show watchers) think Dany and Drogo were a great couple, when he basically just kept raping her until she "liked" it. Then again, this is the series where people think that Sansa and Sandor should gently caress, so I guess every fan is broken in some way. Well, it only makes sense that especially show watchers think all of this because the show has been watered down quite a bit from the books. Even the whole Drogo/Dany thing isn't portrayed in a manner as rapey as it's in the books and age differences overall are leveled so it isn't as creepy. An actually true-to-books adaption of the books would be the most horrible thing to ever air.
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Skeleton Jelly posted:Well, it only makes sense that especially show watchers think all of this because the show has been watered down quite a bit from the books. Even the whole Drogo/Dany thing isn't portrayed in a manner as rapey as it's in the books and age differences overall are leveled so it isn't as creepy. That look on her face the first time though. I seem to remember in the book GRRM made the scene sort of consensualish and he actually gently seduced her (if you ignore the age thing ). Which, actually makes it worse. So good job HBO you actually managed to make the scene more realistic and somehow less pedo friendly at the same time.
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# ? Aug 9, 2013 23:50 |
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HBO removing the fingerbanging and replacing it with a straight rape is probably one of the better less creepy decisions they made although it does mess up Dany's character somewhat as she falls for a dude who unceremoniously rapes her. At least book Drogo is decent enough to put a little effort into foreplay.
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# ? Aug 10, 2013 00:08 |
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So is the show better than the books? If a friend of mine was like "what's this Game of Thrones stuff all about", should I just say "skip the books, watch the show" or what? I've never seen a single minute from the show.
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# ? Aug 10, 2013 00:41 |
Matter of personal opinion.
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# ? Aug 10, 2013 01:47 |
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stratdax posted:So is the show better than the books? If a friend of mine was like "what's this Game of Thrones stuff all about", should I just say "skip the books, watch the show" or what? I've never seen a single minute from the show. It's all opinion, really. Personally I like both. Some scenes are better done in the books, while others are better in the show. It depends on whether or not your friend prefers reading or watching TV. Tell him to do which of those two activities he prefers.
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# ? Aug 10, 2013 01:47 |
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They show is outstanding. The books have higher highs, but much, much lower lows.
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mkay0 posted:They show is outstanding. The books have higher highs, but much, much lower lows. Pretty much this. If I truly like the friend, I'll tell them to just watch the show. If they're gormless fucks who are just as masochistic as I am, I'll tell them to read thebooks.
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stratdax posted:So is the show better than the books? If a friend of mine was like "what's this Game of Thrones stuff all about", should I just say "skip the books, watch the show" or what? I've never seen a single minute from the show. Depends on if you're illiterate or not. But it all changes after the next season, which will either see the show break away from the books completely or turn into the most boring offputting nonsensical garbage on tv since modern Adult Swim.
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# ? Aug 10, 2013 02:20 |
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Ian McShane as Victarion. Powers Boothe as Euron.
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# ? Aug 10, 2013 03:09 |
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Ryan Gosling as Quentyn Martell.
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Anna Gunn as... whichever woman the TV crowd decides to hate at any given moment. The recursive loops of calling her a oval office will cycle faster and faster, powering the eastern seaboard for years.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Anna Gunn as... whichever woman the TV crowd decides to hate at any given moment. The recursive loops of calling her a oval office will cycle faster and faster, powering the eastern seaboard for years. That would be zombie Cat.
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Civilized Fishbot posted:Ryan Gosling as Quentyn Martell.
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# ? Aug 10, 2013 04:57 |
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I would accept the Martells being completely white washed if it meant Daniel Radcliffe could play Quentyn.
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# ? Aug 10, 2013 05:24 |
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I'd insert a Harry Potter reference here, but heh, I never learned to read.
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stratdax posted:So is the show better than the books? If a friend of mine was like "what's this Game of Thrones stuff all about", should I just say "skip the books, watch the show" or what? I've never seen a single minute from the show. The books are vastly superior with regard to world building, including conveying the inter-connectedness of characters and the return of magic. The TV show hits the main points and hits them well, but it's more or less a summary, which works for some things but not others.
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IRQ posted:Depends on if you're illiterate or not. But it all changes after the next season, which will either see the show break away from the books completely or turn into the most boring offputting nonsensical garbage on tv since modern Adult Swim. You never know. They just might be able to make AFFC and ADWD more exciting somehow. One can only hope.
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IRQ posted:Depends on if you're illiterate or not. But it all changes after the next season, which will either see the show break away from the books completely or turn into the most boring offputting nonsensical garbage on tv since modern Adult Swim. Only if we are lucky!
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Civilized Fishbot posted:Ryan Gosling as Quentyn Martell. Nah. Zach Woods (Gabe from The Office) was born to play Quentyn.
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Chinston Wurchill posted:The books are vastly superior with regard to world building, including conveying the inter-connectedness of characters and the return of magic. The TV show hits the main points and hits them well, but it's more or less a summary, which works for some things but not others. Yeah the show tries its damndest and is honestly very impressive on its own merits as a TV show, but it doesn't come close to capturing the scale of the books--one of the few things that helped justify all the faffing about and meandering.
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mkay0 posted:They show is outstanding. The books have higher highs, but much, much lower lows. The show's lows are just as low if not lower than those of the books. Littlefinger wiping cum off a whore's mouth and then making her kiss the next customer is just as gross if not moreso than Ramsay forcing Theon to go down on Jeyne to moisten her up. You don't get to take the high road as a show fanboy, buddy. It's all equally depraved.
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I'm telling you guys Jeff Goldblum should have been Oberyn
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nuncle jimbo posted:I'm telling you guys Jeff Goldblum should have been Oberyn He can play Tycho Nestoris, my pick for the ultimate winner of the Game of Thrones (well, not him personally but his employer).
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Joramun posted:The show's lows are just as low if not lower than those of the books. Littlefinger wiping cum off a whore's mouth and then making her kiss the next customer is just as gross if not moreso than Ramsay forcing Theon to go down on Jeyne to moisten her up. You don't get to take the high road as a show fanboy, buddy. It's all equally depraved. In a lot of instances prostitution can be equivalent to rape (or the invisible little fingers of the free market) but it's difficult to determine how much agency Littlefinger's lady of the evening had relative to everyone else who got hosed up down and sideways in one way or another. That scene with Ramsay, Theon and Jeyne though was double-rape. So I guess if you think (potentially) consensual sex acts that involve a guy emptying his love tummy into a woman's mouthsnizz and then getting her ready for another (potentially) consensual peephole-worthy cock barf gargling, sure they're equal. Sorry I'm practicing my purple prose for chapter twenty or which ever of A Clash of Quims.
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syscall girl posted:In a lot of instances prostitution can be equivalent to rape (or the invisible little fingers of the free market) but it's difficult to determine how much agency Littlefinger's lady of the evening had relative to everyone else who got hosed up down and sideways in one way or another. That scene with Ramsay, Theon and Jeyne though was double-rape. So I guess if you think (potentially) consensual sex acts that involve a guy emptying his love tummy into a woman's mouthsnizz and then getting her ready for another (potentially) consensual peephole-worthy cock barf gargling, sure they're equal. So Littlefinger's cum wipe is actually symbolic for the Sword of Justice that slays the beast that is patriarchal oppression. I hadn't thought of it that way. HBO sexposition scenes are just so full of layers.
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Joramun posted:So Littlefinger's cum wipe is actually symbolic for the Sword of Justice that slays the beast that is patriarchal oppression. I hadn't thought of it that way. HBO sexposition scenes are just so full of layers. I don't even remember that scene (season 1 or 2? even 3 seems a long while back) but comparing some pimping and whoring between (possibly) consenting adults to genital mutilation and one of the GRRMiest multi-rape +pedo chapters seems a little off. HBO kinda hosed up Petyr's character and made him a doofus though, so there's that.
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syscall girl posted:In a lot of instances prostitution can be equivalent to rape (or the invisible little fingers of the free market) but it's difficult to determine how much agency Littlefinger's lady of the evening had relative to everyone else who got hosed up down and sideways in one way or another. In one scene of the show Littlefinger makes it clear that if one of his prostitutes don't stop crying over the murdered baby he will sell her to some very unpleasant people who will use her in such a way that death will be a welcome release. So it is not very ambiguous whether or not if it is consensual sex. It isn't.
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