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 These pieces of crap. Hard to find and extremely expensive. I have a film camera that I simply can't use because I can only get those batteries online and they're too pricey to justify trying to practice film photography
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Non Serviam posted:I have a film camera that I simply can't use because I can only get those batteries online and they're too pricey to justify trying to practice film photography The cameras that rock that battery will teach you jack poo poo about photography, for what it's worth. Go grab an old Nikon FE body from ebay, with maybe a 50mm prime lens. It may be an old way to learn how to shoot, but it's not quite obsolete. e: and it's cheaper than the d40 kit i started out on
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Aug 11, 2013 07:37
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Non Serviam posted:
You can actually find these (and a bunch of other odd batteries) at RadioShack. Expect to pay out the rear end for them though, I remember selling them to people at $6-$7 apiece back when I worked there.
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Aug 11, 2013 07:38
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Non Serviam posted:
So buy them on Amazon? Lithium batteries last forever, I change the CR123s in my Surefire flashlight maybe once a year. Totally Reasonable posted:The cameras that rock that battery will teach you jack poo poo about photography, for what it's worth. Go grab an old Nikon FE body from ebay, with maybe a 50mm prime lens. It may be an old way to learn how to shoot, but it's not quite obsolete. If the poster in question can't afford $12 worth of batteries then the cost of film, development, and scanning/printing isn't going to be acceptable t them either.
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Aug 11, 2013 08:04
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8th-snype posted:So buy them on Amazon? Lithium batteries last forever, I change the CR123s in my Surefire flashlight maybe once a year. Here in the Netherlands at least, I've found them online for about 20 euros a pair, only in one or two stores. I simply can't find them. Also, when I used to play with this camera, the batteries would last very little. As for "teaching", I already know photography, and regularly shoot concerts with my 7D and an array of lenses (in manual, since the other guy assumed I can't use a loving camera). This is an old SLR camera, not a point and shoot, I just thought it'd fun to try to apply my knowledge to film photography. I never thought people would get defensive about a rare lithium battery format. Redrum and Coke has a new favorite as of 08:16 on Aug 11, 2013 |
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Aug 11, 2013 08:13
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Autofocus is for losers.
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Aug 11, 2013 08:23
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Here's something I was thinking about last night: webrings. What happened to them? I remember seeing those navigation links at the bottom of almost every amateur website for years, and then, like Keyser Soze, they just disappeared. I guess the die off of sites like Geocities and the rise of social media kind of took away their purpose. mrkillboy has a new favorite as of 08:38 on Aug 11, 2013 |
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Aug 11, 2013 08:34
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mrkillboy posted:Here's something I was thinking about last night: webrings. What happened to them? I still run into them when looking up poo poo about "Old" stuff (maybe even "obsolete"). And a good thing too because often no one site is comprehensive.
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Aug 11, 2013 10:36
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El Estrago Bonito posted:The best example would be old style American Arcade Buttons. They use the same type of Cherry switches most mechanical keyboards do. That really satisfying click that accompanies hadoukening a dude can now be how you type everything. Also you mistype a lot less since it's pretty hard to apply the amount of force required to depress a button on accident. Well you managed to misspell every letter in 'by' there.
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Aug 11, 2013 11:49
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Non Serviam posted:Here in the Netherlands at least, I've found them online for about 20 euros a pair, only in one or two stores. I simply can't find them. Also, when I used to play with this camera, the batteries would last very little. Sorry you don't live in a place with real online stores. My point still stands, if 20 of your fake european dollars is too much for batteries you won't be happen paying for development or scanning either. Congrats on knowing how to use a digital camera by the way. Dr. Tim Whatley posted:Autofocus is for losers.  
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Aug 11, 2013 12:59
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8th-snype posted:Sorry you don't live in a place with real online stores. My point still stands, if 20 of your fake european dollars is too much for batteries you won't be happen paying for development or scanning either. Congrats on knowing how to use a digital camera by the way. I honestly don't know you're desperately trying to be such a oval office for no reason. Then I remembered that this is the internet. The smug smiley goes very well with you. I'm sure your film pictures are much better than any of the digital photos that are used by most photographer out there. I'm looking forward to see your Time magazine/newsweek cover. mrkillboy posted:Here's something I was thinking about last night: webrings. What happened to them? My theory is that it wasn't so much the rise of social media but rather the improvement of search engines. If I recall correctly, webrings would allow you to just find other related sites (that were part of the "ring"), something that was no long necessary once you could simply type your terms on Google and get fairly accurate hits. Nowadays Stumbleupon can work a bit as a webring, in the sense of just automatically taking you to sites that are related to the site you're looking at. In other news. That colorful DOS-like screen that so many people here apparently had on their TVs (the name escapes me right now)? The other day I discovered that it's not only alive and kicking in the Netherlands, but you can even get an Android App to check it.
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Aug 11, 2013 14:09
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Teletext is insanely popular in Scandinavia as well. In Norway there's about 1.2 million users every week. Of a population of just over 5 million. There's ofcourse and android and iOS app, and in addition two of our largest broadcasters let you browse their teletext online. I don't even know.
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Aug 11, 2013 14:37
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Non Serviam posted:OMG batteries are expensive! Now I can't use my lovely film camera that takes CR123s even though film plus processing costs more than the batteries I am lamenting as being obsolete. It's okay though because I can use my expensive digital camera, array of lenses and extensive knowledge of the art of photography to own all the noobs in here that will never get their lovely film photos on the cover of a dying print media magazine. Also keep your ignorant goon lord assumptions out of the fist bump directed at forums poster Dr Tim Whatley, motherfucker. Not everything is about you or your lovely life choices. I just happen to own mostly manual focus cameras.
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Aug 11, 2013 14:44
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8th-snype posted:Also keep your ignorant goon lord assumptions out of the fist bump directed at forums poster Dr Tim Whatley, motherfucker. Not everything is about you or your lovely life choices. I just happen to own mostly manual focus cameras. I had no idea camera batteries were such an explosive topic! Or rather they aren't and you're just being a lovely poster. Shut up.
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Aug 11, 2013 14:54
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Non Serviam posted:Here in the Netherlands at least, I've found them online for about 20 euros a pair, only in one or two stores. I simply can't find them. Also, when I used to play with this camera, the batteries would last very little. I've recently bought a few at Handyman in Alkmaar for my cyclocomputer, they're pricey but not *that* pricey, less that 10 Euros. DONT TOUCH THE PC has a new favorite as of 15:07 on Aug 11, 2013 |
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Aug 11, 2013 15:03
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8th-snype posted:Also keep your ignorant goon lord assumptions out of the fist bump directed at forums poster Dr Tim Whatley, motherfucker. Not everything is about you or your lovely life choices. I just happen to own mostly manual focus cameras. Holy poo poo, you both suck. Shut up. Content:  I'm sure they exist in some other form, nowadays, but I haven't seen this particular style in many years. I loved the gently caress out of these things when I was a little kid. Mom all yellin at me for wasting paper when I came back with a huge stack of "Buy two gallons of clamato juice, get one package of cream cheese free" coupons. Also, the little blinky light on the side. Ahh, good times.
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Aug 11, 2013 16:21
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Radio Help posted:Holy poo poo, you both suck. Shut up. What is it? Are they like coupon dispensers? It reminds me of some machines I saw at some hotels when I was a kid, where you'd pick a certain sight-seeing place and it'd print some information about it. I would print EVERYTHING... so, yeah, you and I are responsible for deforestation I guess. 
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Aug 11, 2013 17:42
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poo poo, I haven't seen a coupon dispenser in years, it's all download off the internet and print out stuff or loyalty card deals now.
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Aug 11, 2013 17:48
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Non Serviam posted:What is it? Are they like coupon dispensers? It's a coupon dispenser. You pull out a coupon and another one pops out, ready to be pulled by someone else who wants tomatoes for 59 cents. I, however, would pull out as many of them as I could and then try to stuff them back in. I'm not sure if I was aware of the damage I was doing to them at the time. Gosh, I forgot those even existed! It just seems like such an antiquated idea now. Some places might have QR codes now that take you to the store's webpage, or prompt you to install their app, but nothing like a little machine that spits out coupons that little poo poo head kids are going to break all the time.
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Aug 11, 2013 18:20
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Non Serviam posted:
http://dx.com/s/cr123?category=400
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Aug 11, 2013 18:34
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Non Serviam posted:My theory is that it wasn't so much the rise of social media but rather the improvement of search engines. If I recall correctly, webrings would allow you to just find other related sites (that were part of the "ring"), something that was no long necessary once you could simply type your terms on Google and get fairly accurate hits. Nowadays Stumbleupon can work a bit as a webring, in the sense of just automatically taking you to sites that are related to the site you're looking at. The real innovation wasn't Google Search, but the ability to computationally decide whether two sites were related (which, to be fair, Google did likely pioneer as part of their search engine.) Now you just specify your keywords in a meta tag, or the bots figure it out from the text on your pages. In that case, StumbleUpon really is an on the fly webring generator for whatever site you happen to be looking at. The true 90s-as-gently caress web experience is AOL keywords, though.
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Aug 11, 2013 18:49
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Coupon dispensers are definitely still around. They're a lot smaller now, too, and they usually have a little plastic holder on top so when your kid pulls all the coupons out you can leave them behind for the next person. I think they're more common in smaller chains. I'll try to remember to take a pic next time I go shopping. The coupons are always so crappy too. Save 45 cents off three boxes of Cheerios (55oz. or larger)! 25 cents off a $10 can of Folger's! Buy 2 Tide 150oz bottles, get 50 cents off a Tide to Go pen!
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Aug 11, 2013 18:58
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The proprietary ISP web of the 90s is sort of still interesting to think about. Prodigy, AOL, etc. I remember when some of the ISPs like Prodigy used to charge you for every email you sent and received. In fact, there was a teacher who set up a Prodigy account on a classroom computer that told us a few days later, "Do not send messages to people." Someone in a class used her account to message to stranger, and the stranger was unhappy that they had to pay not only to receive the message, but also to send a message telling the teacher to never contact them again so they didn't waste any more money.
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Aug 11, 2013 19:09
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I remember one that was marketed towards Christians that had an insane content filter built into it (like it would block a page if the page said "Rap music" on it), but I can't remember what it was called.
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Aug 11, 2013 20:15
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Radio Help posted:I remember one that was marketed towards Christians that had an insane content filter built into it (like it would block a page if the page said "Rap music" on it), but I can't remember what it was called. Are really bad content filters for public computers still a thing? I remember the one in my old high-school pissing off the girls in home ec because if a page said breast it was blocked and you got an automatic detention for trying to access a blocked page. Looking up a chicken breast recipe for class? lol sorry bitch see you from three to five on friday! I think my college just doesn't have any sort of filter at all because I've seen kids looking at literal porn a few times on school computers.
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Aug 11, 2013 20:35
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I think most school districts and libraries have one (mine did, with some wonderful false positives such as nasa.gov. At least there was no automatic punishment for bumping up against the filter). As for colleges, maybe the really Christian ones but I doubt there are many outside of that.
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Aug 11, 2013 20:47
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In the US public libraries are required to install filtering software on public internet terminals if they want to get federal funding. Or they used to at least, I only heard this when my town's public library made a big stink about it somewhere around 2003-2004.
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Aug 12, 2013 00:18
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ulvir posted:Teletext is insanely popular in Scandinavia as well. In Norway there's about 1.2 million users every week. Of a population of just over 5 million. There's ofcourse and android and iOS app, and in addition two of our largest broadcasters let you browse their teletext online. You can't go wrong with "Tekst-TV" you know.  So many memories of going through every page to try to get to the TV-guide, since my remote never would let me just push in the numbers to go to the correct page. Also the horrible children sections of the teletect for TV2 and NRK. XXX parts was okay though. At least for my friends who didn't have access to a computer and a modem to go to Altavista or Lycos to try to find their nude women.
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Aug 12, 2013 00:19
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fralbjabar posted:In the US public libraries are required to install filtering software on public internet terminals if they want to get federal funding. Or they used to at least, I only heard this when my town's public library made a big stink about it somewhere around 2003-2004. I was under the impression that the opposite was true. Like, filtering the internet at a public library constituted a violation of the First Amendment or something like that. Could be completely wrong, though. I'd like to say that all forms of "family filters" are a failed technology. Unless you're talking about some insanely expensive, Great Firewall of China style situation, they just don't work. As a teenager, my ultra-Christian parents always had some form or another of porn filter on our computers, and they were all laughably easy to defeat. poo poo, I think I learned how to use VM's and Linux solely so I could look at porn without being sent to Jesus Camp.
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Aug 12, 2013 01:50
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They can be useful in some places (like, preventing elementary schoolers from accidentally stumbling onto hate speech sites; I remember once common example librarians loved to bring out was that martinlutherking.com (or some other seemingly innocent address) actually led to a neo-nazi site). I do agree that they can be trivial to get around if someone is interested in doing so.
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Aug 12, 2013 02:00
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Radio Help posted:I was under the impression that the opposite was true. Like, filtering the internet at a public library constituted a violation of the First Amendment or something like that. Could be completely wrong, though. This is my impression but it's hard to google for some reason. I only remember seeing notices on library computers that they can't be censored, and homeless men watching facial porn sitting next to somebody checking Hotmail.
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Aug 12, 2013 02:29
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Mescal posted:This is my impression but it's hard to google for some reason. I only remember seeing notices on library computers that they can't be censored, and homeless men watching facial porn sitting next to somebody checking Hotmail. See, this is the problem with allowing unfettered access to the internet in libraries. Who would do such a thing, use Hotmail?
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Aug 12, 2013 02:55
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Radio Help posted:I was under the impression that the opposite was true. Like, filtering the internet at a public library constituted a violation of the First Amendment or something like that. Could be completely wrong, though. According to http://www.americanlibrariesmagazine.org/article/filtering-and-first-amendment, the Children's Internet Protection Act (CIPA) requires that libraries receiving certain grants and discounts must implement web filters. Those filters, according to the Supreme Court, must be disabled for adults immediately upon request, no justification required. Library personnel are also allowed to unblock (for all users) sites which have been mistakenly blocked. Presumably due to misunderstandings of the law and worries over losing funds, some libraries may be dicks about their filters.
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Aug 12, 2013 03:50
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Pham Nuwen posted:According to http://www.americanlibrariesmagazine.org/article/filtering-and-first-amendment, the Children's Internet Protection Act (CIPA) requires that libraries receiving certain grants and discounts must implement web filters. Those filters, according to the Supreme Court, must be disabled for adults immediately upon request, no justification required. Library personnel are also allowed to unblock (for all users) sites which have been mistakenly blocked. The real issue is with libraries being unable to deal with the mentally ill dudes who come to use a public terminal to look up weird fetish porn. DocCynical posted:Then buy them from DX. You can get 2 primary cells for about 4 bucks, or buy some secondary ones and a charger and dance all night. Dear god, do not buy batteries from Deal Extreme. This is a very bad idea
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Aug 12, 2013 05:53
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Mescal posted:This is my impression but it's hard to google for some reason. I only remember seeing notices on library computers that they can't be censored, and homeless men watching facial porn sitting next to somebody checking Hotmail. We have no filtering, we do have rules about watching porn and you can get banned from the library for a year for it. It happens occasionally, about 2 times a year tops. We've got bigger problems with the drunkards. carry on then posted:They can be useful in some places (like, preventing elementary schoolers from accidentally stumbling onto hate speech sites; I remember once common example librarians loved to bring out was that martinlutherking.com (or some other seemingly innocent address) actually led to a neo-nazi site). I do agree that they can be trivial to get around if someone is interested in doing so. I've gotten into arguments with teachers about this when i still was working at a high school as a computer janitor. They preferred the IT department blocking all sites but the ones they fancied and we argued that they would be a lot better off when they taught kids about medialiteracy using examples like https://www.martinlutherking.com. We actually won that argument.
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Aug 12, 2013 05:54
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Slanderer posted:The real issue is with libraries being unable to deal with the mentally ill dudes who come to use a public terminal to look up weird fetish porn. The difference between a homeless psycho looking at weird fetish porn in the library and a grad student researching a paper on weird fetish porn in the library is that the homeless guy isn't behind on his rent.
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Aug 12, 2013 06:03
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Totally Reasonable posted:The difference between a homeless drunk looking at weird fetish porn and a grad student researching a paper on weird fetish porn is that the homeless guy isn't behind on his rent. I think it's that the grad student doesn't usually have his dick out.
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Aug 12, 2013 06:05
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grad students literally always have their dicks out. especially when it's not biologically feasible.
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Aug 12, 2013 06:10
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Slanderer posted:Dear god, do not buy batteries from Deal Extreme. This is a very bad idea I've bought many batteries from DX. It is a bit of a gamble sometimes, but generally I've had very good luck. What harm would a little fire do to your obsolete ancient metal camera? Note, I've never had a cell start on fire. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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DocCynical posted:I've bought many batteries from DX. It is a bit of a gamble sometimes, but generally I've had very good luck. What harm would a little fire do to your obsolete ancient metal camera? Note, I've never had a cell start on fire. Quoted for posterity/next-of-kin.
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