Magic: Duels of the Planeswalkers 2014: Finally, there is deck building.

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Meep: Oct 7, 2000

Team THEOLOGY posted:

My bitching happened when it wasn't supposed to shuffle but did anyway. That was a classic Stainless Fail

Yeah your bug seems legit, that's an edge case that they must not have accounted for. TheresNoThyme's on the other hand is almost certainly just the RNG screwing with him.

precision posted:

The problem with cutting any one color from Slivers is that it means cutting Fiery Justice. I could see R/G being somewhat effective but also really boring, and you'd also lose Faith's Fetters.

Yeah I don't think you really have enough R/G cards to justify cutting white. I don't care about Faith's Fetters, I've cut those already anyways, and I wouldn't even miss Fiery Justice that much but you would lose your Mirror Entitys and Bonescythe Slivers which are some of your best creatures. You also lose your exiles, leaving you with only Shocks for CC. If it had a few more good R/G Slivers I would totally try it, but right now ditching white forces you to use a lot of crap cards.

botany posted:

Doesn't work for me (yet).

Which platform? Works on 360 and PS3, not sure about PC or iOS.

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botany: Apr 27, 2013; by Lowtax

Meep posted:

Which platform? Works on 360 and PS3, not sure about PC or iOS.

PC, but the other unlocks tended to take a while too.

# ? Aug 11, 2013 00:34

GimmickMan: Dec 27, 2011

Re: Sliver deck, keeping Red as a splash (for the Thorncast Slivers and Fiery Justice) seems viable on paper. The deck could really use some Manaweft slivers in place of some of the jank unlocks, frankly.

# ? Aug 11, 2013 00:51

take three tablets: Nov 21, 2005; Hell Gem

botany posted:

PC, but the other unlocks tended to take a while too.

Try verifying the game cache. I couldn't get it to work and that finally did it.

# ? Aug 11, 2013 03:06

precision: May 7, 2006; by VideoGames

Meep posted:

Yeah I don't think you really have enough R/G cards to justify cutting white. I don't care about Faith's Fetters, I've cut those already anyways

Why don't you run Fetters? It can be used on noncreature permanents. Admittedly that's not a very big deal this year, but I'm pretty sure I've done it once.

Slivers seems to always be playing catch-up in life since you don't really have a lot of small, efficient Slivers unless you draw 4xPredatory so the lifegain is usually pretty good.

# ? Aug 11, 2013 03:14

Azuth0667: Sep 20, 2011; By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

I haven't a clue what happened but all my unlocks are working again for steam.

# ? Aug 11, 2013 19:42

Charles Bukowski: Aug 26, 2003; Taskmaster 2023 Second Place Winner; Grimey Drawer

Pardon me, I didn't see anything on the first page, is there an irc or steam group set up? I just purchased this game and I'd like to chat about it.

# ? Aug 11, 2013 20:12

always be closing: Jul 16, 2005

Charles Bukowski posted:

Pardon me, I didn't see anything on the first page, is there an irc or steam group set up? I just purchased this game and I'd like to chat about it.

#mtgoon on SYNirc, should be able to answer all your questions!

# ? Aug 11, 2013 21:20

precision: May 7, 2006; by VideoGames

Oh, I remember:

Faith's Fetters can be used on Eye of Ugin. Not a bad play if you have a Path in grip.

# ? Aug 11, 2013 23:30

The Zombie Guy: Oct 25, 2008

I was playing Avacyn's against Guardians of Light, and I had something come up that I think was wrong... Maybe one of you guys can let me know if I'm crazy, or if the game messed up.

My weenies were getting over-matched by the other guy's aura powered dudes, so I cast Hallowed Burial.

It seemed to work okay, except the guy's Seraph of the Sword popped back up onto the battlefield.

I thought it would have been gone to the bottom of his deck since it wasn't combat damage, but there it was. Oh well.

# ? Aug 12, 2013 00:33

Peepers: Mar 11, 2005; Well, I'm a ghost. I scare people. It's all very important, I assure you.

The Zombie Guy posted:

I was playing Avacyn's against Guardians of Light, and I had something come up that I think was wrong... Maybe one of you guys can let me know if I'm crazy, or if the game messed up.

My weenies were getting over-matched by the other guy's aura powered dudes, so I cast Hallowed Burial.

It seemed to work okay, except the guy's Seraph of the Sword popped back up onto the battlefield.

I thought it would have been gone to the bottom of his deck since it wasn't combat damage, but there it was. Oh well.

Did you have a Fiend Hunter that had locked down another Seraph of the Sword? If so then once Hallowed Burial resolves your Fiend Hunter goes on the bottom of your library and then whatever is under it comes back into place and sticks around.

If you didn't have one out, then I dunno.

# ? Aug 12, 2013 00:49

Meep: Oct 7, 2000

precision posted:

Why don't you run Fetters? It can be used on noncreature permanents. Admittedly that's not a very big deal this year, but I'm pretty sure I've done it once.

Slivers seems to always be playing catch-up in life since you don't really have a lot of small, efficient Slivers unless you draw 4xPredatory so the lifegain is usually pretty good.

Because slivers needs a lot of slivers to do well so something had to give. Fetters is mostly just an overcosted pacify and I'd rather be spending that mana playing more slivers. I run every sliver with an effect besides 1 haste guy and the 2 trample guys which is 25 creatures.

# ? Aug 12, 2013 01:13

Dirty Karma: Jul 3, 2007

Meep posted:

...Fetters is mostly just an overcosted pacify....

This is crazy talk. Fetters is WAY better then Pacifism in every way but the artwork.

# ? Aug 12, 2013 01:41

precision: May 7, 2006; by VideoGames

Dirty Karma posted:

This is crazy talk. Fetters is WAY better then Pacifism in every way but the artwork.

Yeah really.

Though there aren't a lot of "activated abilities" this year. It can lock down Mikaeus or Thraben Doomsayer though, which is pro as hell.

Also the inevitable Izzet themed deck.

# ? Aug 12, 2013 01:50

Team THEOLOGY: Nov 27, 2008

precision posted:

Yeah really.

Though there aren't a lot of "activated abilities" this year. It can lock down Mikaeus or Thraben Doomsayer though, which is pro as hell.

Also the inevitable Izzet themed deck.

Yea gently caress Karma and his Izzet themed deck.

Fake edit: I can't wait to play with Karma and his Izzet themed deck.

# ? Aug 12, 2013 02:12

Dirty Karma: Jul 3, 2007

^ Hahaha. I love you too!

precision posted:

Yeah really.

Though there aren't a lot of "activated abilities" this year. It can lock down Mikaeus or Thraben Doomsayer though, which is pro as hell.

Also the inevitable Izzet themed deck.

Fauna Shamen, Lord o' Undead, Lavamancer, Eye of Egin, Evil Twin, Mikaeus, ect.. I'll give you there's not as many, but they're almost all game winners.

Regardless though Pacifism's art is incredible.

# ? Aug 12, 2013 03:42

Peepers: Mar 11, 2005; Well, I'm a ghost. I scare people. It's all very important, I assure you.

Chittering Rats and Followed Footsteps. :psyduck:

Unless your opponent can kill the rat or play everything in their hand, they are never drawing a new card again.

# ? Aug 12, 2013 04:17

Mr. Meagles: Apr 30, 2004; Out here, everything hurts

Hmm, just played 2 matches with my Bloodghast not getting haste when it was supposed to. One time played from the hand at 6 life and another with landfall at 9.

Still fuckin' love Bloodghast though.

# ? Aug 12, 2013 04:26

Dr. Stab: Sep 12, 2010; 👨🏻‍⚕️🩺🔪🙀😱🙀

Ronco Showtime posted:

Hmm, just played 2 matches with my Bloodghast not getting haste when it was supposed to. One time played from the hand at 6 life and another with landfall at 9.

Still fuckin' love Bloodghast though.

That's very odd. Can you explain more about the situation, or do you have a screenshot?

# ? Aug 12, 2013 04:32

Dirty Karma: Jul 3, 2007

Mr. Peepers posted:

Chittering Rats and Followed Footsteps.

Unless your opponent can kill the rat or play everything in their hand, they are never drawing a new card again.

Not as broken as it sounds. By turn 6 you opponent shouldn't be holding cards anyways.

# ? Aug 12, 2013 05:05

tirinal: Feb 5, 2007

Chittering rats is like #387 on the list of targets for followed footsteps that can screw your opponent with no removal.

# ? Aug 12, 2013 05:11

Peepers: Mar 11, 2005; Well, I'm a ghost. I scare people. It's all very important, I assure you.

In the DotP metagame where most decks have drops in the 5+ range that many people run, more often than not they are still holding multiple cards by turn 6. Chittering Rats won't always be my #1 target, but if my opponent has little or no board presence and/or I'm playing Followed Footsteps on curve then denying them draws for potentially the entire rest of the game is pretty nuts.

I gotta say, after having unlocked a majority of the cards for a majority of the decks, I think I like Dimir and Mul'Daya the most. I find myself actually thinking about what the best plays are on a turn-by-turn basis, as compared to the W/U/B aggro decks that more or less play themselves. And I can't stop raving about Avenger of Zendikar.

# ? Aug 12, 2013 05:55

Dirty Karma: Jul 3, 2007

Mr. Peepers posted:

In the DotP metagame where most decks have drops in the 5+ range that many people run, more often than not they are still holding multiple cards by turn 6. Chittering Rats won't always be my #1 target, but if my opponent has little or no board presence and/or I'm playing Followed Footsteps on curve then denying them draws for potentially the entire rest of the game is pretty nuts.

I gotta say, after having unlocked a majority of the cards for a majority of the decks, I think I like Dimir and Mul'Daya the most. I find myself actually thinking about what the best plays are on a turn-by-turn basis, as compared to the W/U/B aggro decks that more or less play themselves. And I can't stop raving about Avenger of Zendikar.

Against Dimir? Granted I play 2hg so 1v1 may be way different, but between Rats, Mind Rot, misc heavy D card and opponents panick dumping noone ever has cards past turn 5 or so.

Also as a rule I'll never* Followed Footstep my own creature.

*almost

# ? Aug 12, 2013 06:57

precision: May 7, 2006; by VideoGames

Followed Footsteps on Evil Twin, Archaeomancer, Necropolis Regent, Dinrova Horror...

# ? Aug 12, 2013 07:04

Dirty Karma: Jul 3, 2007

^ Hell even Maori turn 5 is "Deal with or lose."

# ? Aug 12, 2013 07:10

Meep: Oct 7, 2000

precision posted:

Yeah really.

Though there aren't a lot of "activated abilities" this year. It can lock down Mikaeus or Thraben Doomsayer though, which is pro as hell.

Also the inevitable Izzet themed deck.

Yeah I'm not saying it doesn't have its uses, but more of the time then not when I cast it it's just a pacify + some health. I just think its too expensive when I really just want to be slamming down more slivers.

# ? Aug 12, 2013 08:43

Boinks: Nov 24, 2003

So how many cards should each deck have unlocked with the promo codes? I want to make sure I didn't miss one. I have 36 cards unlocked in each deck and I've used 6 promo codes (I think).

# ? Aug 12, 2013 16:45

Team THEOLOGY: Nov 27, 2008

Boinks posted:

So how many cards should each deck have unlocked with the promo codes? I want to make sure I didn't miss one. I have 36 cards unlocked in each deck and I've used 6 promo codes (I think).

You should be up to 7 precision posted the code a while back (2-3 pages) I think.

# ? Aug 12, 2013 16:57

Gensuki: Sep 2, 2011

Is there a way to tell what cards are promo cards besides comparing the cards I have to the starting cards?

Also, Form of the Dragon is a fun card in duels. Especially with Slivers or Garruk who need to get fancy to beat it.

I like how Chronozoa breaks the game. Just have a 100 card line floating up and down because they didn't code a way to compress cards with counters.

Gensuki fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Aug 12, 2013

# ? Aug 12, 2013 17:17

precision: May 7, 2006; by VideoGames

Gensuki posted:

Is there a way to tell what cards are promo cards besides comparing the cards I have to the starting cards?

They don't sparkle this year, but:

http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29981069/Promotional_Unlock_Cards_List_for_Magic_2014

# ? Aug 12, 2013 17:44

Seagull: Oct 9, 2012; give me a chip

Anyone know what this ~100 MB update is? A bug fix of some sort / making cards do what they're meant to?

# ? Aug 13, 2013 08:46

legoman727: Mar 13, 2010; by exmarx

Anyone on steam gotten the seventh code working yet? Still is giving me error messages.

# ? Aug 13, 2013 15:18

tirinal: Feb 5, 2007

Uninstall and reinstall.

I have to do it every promo release.

# ? Aug 13, 2013 15:21

Andrast: Apr 21, 2010

Just verifying the game cache is enough if you are talking about the PC version.

# ? Aug 13, 2013 15:42

Dirty Karma: Jul 3, 2007

This just in...

Grim Return is the funnest, most game changing new card in Magic. That is all.

# ? Aug 13, 2013 17:10

precision: May 7, 2006; by VideoGames

Dirty Karma posted:

This just in...

Grim Return is the funnest, most game changing new card in Magic. That is all.

Doom Blade + Grim Return isn't really any better than Mind Control most of the time, but it's still a great card for its flexibility in other situations. I took the Reanimates out of Deadwalkers as overkill-ish but Grim Return is good times.

# ? Aug 13, 2013 20:06

Team THEOLOGY: Nov 27, 2008

precision posted:

Doom Blade + Grim Return isn't really any better than Mind Control most of the time, but it's still a great card for its flexibility in other situations. I took the Reanimates out of Deadwalkers as overkill-ish but Grim Return is good times.

You TOOK OUT REANIMATE?!

# ? Aug 13, 2013 20:59

Bust Rodd: Oct 21, 2008; by VideoGames

Yeah, that's definitely insane, reanimate is arguably the most powerful necromancy in the game. I cut the grim returns because they are just garbage topdeck.

# ? Aug 13, 2013 21:22

precision: May 7, 2006; by VideoGames

Team THEOLOGY posted:

You TOOK OUT REANIMATE?!

I did! Cruel Revival and Lord of the Undead are doing it just fine on my own dudes, and honestly the deck is working fine as a pure romper stomper. :shobon:

Originally I had the Reanimates in because my inner traditional Magic player was all "Dude that card is the nuts" but someone convinced me that Deadwalkers actually doesn't need it.

Now, if Dimir had that card... :getin:

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GimmickMan: Dec 27, 2011

That is specially true in this tribal meta where getting back your opponent's bombs isn't all that hot a lot of the time.

# ? Aug 13, 2013 21:33

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