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Jimbozig posted:This is, I think, my first time in this thread. I just wandered in to see how bad the stuff being posted here was. Maybe it was humorous, or entertaining. So I clicked "last page" to check out moronic takes on current events. I didn't even make it one third of the way through the above article before my eyes refused to relay the words to my brain. gently caress people. How can someone get literally everything so badly wrong? It's almost as though there was a media ecosystem with no concern for reality that continually validates fallacious modes of thought and existing prejudices, and builds an alternate reality from those.
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quote:First, put the blame for Trayvon Martin's death where it belongs. It's funny how people like the author of this article insist that every bad thing that happens to a poor and/or black person is because they're lazy/entitled/[insert your favorite dogwhistle] and should take responsibility for themselves, but when a white (half-Hispanic, whatever) guy shoots a black teenager suddenly the shooter's individual choices don't matter and it's all the black kid's fault. It's almost as if the "personal responsibility" talking point actually has nothing to do with responsibility at all!
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# ? Aug 15, 2013 06:58 |
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Opposing Farce posted:You mean on the guy who killed him? Oh, who am I kidding, of course you don't After doing my time in the poo poo show that was the Trayvon Martin shooting thread on Something Awful, I was just surprised to see them suggest Trayvon had 35 pounds on Zimmerman. Even with all the wrong headed racist stuff you saw in that thread, no one ever so monumentally misstated objective fact that they had Trayvon outweighing Zimmerman.
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# ? Aug 15, 2013 07:42 |
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The county I grew up is having their annual fair, and got a relatively well known AD/DC cover band, Hell's Belles (all women group) to perform at the fair. Now AC/DC doesn't have too controversial music, but it didn't stop the crazies from coming out: http://www.centralkitsapreporter.com/opinion/220733881.html quote:The Kitsap County Fair is having a satanic music group as entertainment. The Hell's Belles are from Bremerton, and they work for the devil.
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# ? Aug 23, 2013 20:11 |
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Yes, Bremerton is overflowing with Satanic power! That's why they have...um...err...so much meth?
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# ? Aug 23, 2013 20:12 |
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seiferguy posted:The county I grew up is having their annual fair, and got a relatively well known AD/DC cover band, Hell's Belles (all women group) to perform at the fair. Now AC/DC doesn't have too controversial music, but it didn't stop the crazies from coming out: Is that actually what he means by "the sign of the devil?"
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# ? Aug 24, 2013 03:27 |
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VideoTapir posted:Is that actually what he means by "the sign of the devil?" Yep, throwing the horns is the sign of satan. I guess because of Dio.
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# ? Aug 24, 2013 03:59 |
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The funny part is, Dio got the gesture from his mother, to whom it was a sign to ward off evil influences.
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# ? Aug 24, 2013 04:28 |
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seiferguy posted:The county I grew up is having their annual fair, and got a relatively well known AD/DC cover band, Hell's Belles (all women group) to perform at the fair. Now AC/DC doesn't have too controversial music, but it didn't stop the crazies from coming out: I realize that the newspaper is a near-dead medium and 80% of small town readership are old kooks who never learned about the Internet, but really, this is what's fit to print in 2013?
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# ? Aug 24, 2013 05:05 |
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seiferguy posted:The county I grew up is having their annual fair, and got a relatively well known AD/DC cover band, Hell's Belles (all women group) to perform at the fair. Now AC/DC doesn't have too controversial music, but it didn't stop the crazies from coming out:
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# ? Aug 24, 2013 06:57 |
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:I want to circulate a petition to replace Hell's Belles with some good old-fashioned family-friendly Mayhem If AC/DC is getting this lady riled up, extreme forms of metal would probably cause her mind to implode. Perhaps hammer smash her face.
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# ? Aug 24, 2013 15:16 |
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SeraphSlaughter posted:If AC/DC is getting this lady riled up, extreme forms of metal would probably cause her mind to implode. Perhaps hammer smash her face. If you're not careful with those references, you might end up with every bone broken.
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# ? Aug 24, 2013 15:20 |
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I'v always wondered if you can sue someone for slander or otherwise stick it to them for falsely claiming you are an adherent of a certain religion, like Satanism. It's pure and simple character assassination by falsehood: almost no one actually worships the devil. I mean, even BIG CAPITAL S LaVeyan Satanism isn't about worshiping the devil.
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# ? Aug 24, 2013 15:35 |
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Probably not, they almost always claim the devil is deceiving them into doing his bidding even if they think they aren't.
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# ? Aug 24, 2013 16:19 |
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Nathilus posted:I'v always wondered if you can sue someone for slander or otherwise stick it to them for falsely claiming you are an adherent of a certain religion, like Satanism. It's pure and simple character assassination by falsehood: almost no one actually worships the devil. I mean, even BIG CAPITAL S LaVeyan Satanism isn't about worshiping the devil. One of the key parts of a libel charge is that you need to prove that the person making the libel is knowingly making false statements. Also, you have to show that other people could potentially believe the lie being told. So a libel prosecution against this women would hinge upon her being smarter then she seems, and everyone else being stupid.
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# ? Aug 24, 2013 16:19 |
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Patrick Spens posted:One of the key parts of a libel charge is that you need to prove that the person making the libel is knowingly making false statements. Also, you have to show that other people could potentially believe the lie being told. So a libel prosecution against this women would hinge upon her being smarter then she seems, and everyone else being stupid. I figured there was some sort of arcane legal reason why it isn't possible, since you never see it happen. Thanks for the clarification. Honestly, it seems like a pretty good threshold to me, even if it omits this kind of obvious rumor-mongering. Eventually, I think we're going to come to have different values about the value of communication and information, such that pissing in the well as it were will be much more highly frowned upon. It's not a very brave prediction, since the last 200 or so years have been a case study in our advancement when it comes to this sphere. We still have a long way to go though, there's still a lot of tolerated snake oil and quackery out there, to say nothing of all the flat out malicious untruths that get spread around.
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# ? Aug 24, 2013 17:30 |
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quote:According to the Media, President Obama and the slick-haired Al Sharpton, we white devils are supposed to feel very sorry for the plight of the black teen. Why do all of these urban feral thug youts have a racial chip on their shoulder? Now excuse for a moment, there's a black guy standing by my house I need to call the cops.
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# ? Aug 25, 2013 23:54 |
Flash mobs are a black thing?
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# ? Aug 26, 2013 00:18 |
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Armyman25 posted:Flash mobs are a black thing? Flash mob has two weird definitions right now. It can mean a bunch of people showing up to a mall and dancing or a large group of teenagers showing up in one place and causing trouble. Here's an example from earlier this year: http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Teens-Arrested-After-Large-FIght-in-Center-City-202189591.html Basically a bunch of kids, possibly a few hundred, show up in one place and something stupid like a fight usually breaks out. Racists usually like to make it sound like these are huge roving gangs of black kids just attacking people at random, instead of just teenage stupidity writ large. Its become kind of a thing in the past couple years because social media makes these type of mass gatherings easy to organize.
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# ? Aug 26, 2013 00:29 |
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Why is there a narrative that there are bands of black guys wandering around looking for white people to murder? All of these conservative posts fail to mention that black people are disproportionatly the victims of violent crime.
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# ? Aug 26, 2013 01:06 |
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Chandragupta posted:Why is there a narrative that there are bands of black guys wandering around looking for white people to murder? All of these conservative posts fail to mention that black people are disproportionatly the victims of violent crime. Because to right-wingers only white people are real.
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# ? Aug 26, 2013 01:08 |
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Pope Guilty posted:Because to right-wingers only white people are real. And any other black person they hurt is probably a criminal and part of the problem!
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# ? Aug 26, 2013 02:13 |
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Nevvy Z posted:And any other black person they hurt is probably a criminal and part of the problem! Some of them believe this is a plus and not a minus. Black on black violence is not bad because it results in fewer of them. In fact, they argue the best thing to do with black people is just to let them kill each other (the term is urban ferals). It's only a problem when they branch out. Reading the Freep thread is hard sometimes.
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# ? Aug 26, 2013 03:18 |
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President Reagan, not a racist man.quote:There you go again, Hollywood.
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# ? Aug 27, 2013 13:25 |
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Mike's never going to get over the fact that his dad didn't care about him, is he?
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# ? Aug 27, 2013 13:58 |
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Pope Guilty posted:Mike's never going to get over the fact that his dad didn't care about him, is he? Repostin' this because it makes me giggle every time: quote:In 1964 he graduated from the Judson School, a boarding school outside of Scottsdale, Arizona. At his high school graduation, Ronald Reagan introduced himself to his son by saying, "My name is Ronald Reagan. What's yours?" He replied, "I'm your son Mike." "Oh," said Ronald Reagan. "I didn't recognize you."
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# ? Aug 27, 2013 15:49 |
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Yeah, every article Michael Reagan has ever written should be subtitled "Daddy! Daddy, do you love me yet?"
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# ? Aug 27, 2013 15:53 |
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Alter Ego posted:Yeah, every article Michael Reagan has ever written should be subtitled "Daddy! Daddy, do you love me yet?" loving yikes. I've never paid much attention to the Reagan family, but at this point Ron Jr. gets all the attention because he's a liberal.
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# ? Aug 27, 2013 16:15 |
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Alter Ego posted:Yeah, every article Michael Reagan has ever written should be subtitled "Daddy! Daddy, do you love me yet?" D-drat. Honestly he almost had a fair point about how everything has to be TO THE EXTREME in Hollywood, so of course we have to have some kind of lynching moment. But it kind of got lost in all the distant father worship.
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# ? Aug 27, 2013 16:25 |
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Alter Ego posted:Yeah, every article Michael Reagan has ever written should be subtitled "Daddy! Daddy, do you love me yet?" He was raped as a kid and spent his life terrified that the nude photos of him that his rapist took would be used to humiliate Ronny. That's not something I want to make fun of him for, but the dude is messed up.
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# ? Aug 27, 2013 17:03 |
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Jack Gladney posted:He was raped as a kid and spent his life terrified that the nude photos of him that his rapist took would be used to humiliate Ronny. That's not something I want to make fun of him for, but the dude is messed up. Jesus loving Christ. That's beyond horrible.
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# ? Aug 27, 2013 17:04 |
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Jack Gladney posted:He was raped as a kid and spent his life terrified that the nude photos of him that his rapist took would be used to humiliate Ronny. That's not something I want to make fun of him for, but the dude is messed up. You know this sorta reminds me of Richard Dawkins and other adults who have had horrible things happen to them as children and they have just convinced themselves it's solved with no lasting repercussions.
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# ? Aug 27, 2013 17:13 |
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LP97S posted:You know this sorta reminds me of Richard Dawkins. What happened to him? (Wikipedia says nothing)
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# ? Aug 27, 2013 17:18 |
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JDM3 posted:What happened to him? (Wikipedia says nothing) http://www.richarddawkins.net/foundation_articles/2012/12/22/physical-versus-mental-child-abuse In his own words Richard Dawkins posted:Incidentally, I was myself sexually abused by a teacher when I was about nine or ten years old. It was a very unpleasant and embarrassing experience, but the mental trauma was soon exorcised by comparing notes with my contemporaries who had suffered it previously at the hands of the same master. Thank goodness, I have never personally experienced what it is like to believe – really and truly and deeply believe – in hell. But I think it can be plausibly argued that such a deeply held belief might cause a child more long-lasting mental trauma than the temporary embarrassment of mild physical abuse. He tried to use it as an argument that teaching kids about hell is worst than child abuse because he was abused as a child and he's fine. I think he needs some help.
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LP97S posted:http://www.richarddawkins.net/foundation_articles/2012/12/22/physical-versus-mental-child-abuse Now that you bring it up, I do remember reading that. So where does "as bad as Hitler" fit into the "religion is worse than child abuse" ranking schematic? Honestly - I have read his work, agree with most of the arguments, and am a committed atheist (however I live in the Bible belt, go to church and mostly keep my mouth shut in order to fit in, etc. (my self-serving hypothesis is that there are a LOT of us)) However where I disagree with him is his insistence that religion (and churches) is a totally bad thing. Of course there are bad parts, but on the whole I think the positives outweigh the negatives. (another , I know)
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# ? Aug 27, 2013 18:36 |
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I think the dude has a right to complain about his father being portrayed as a racist if he feels it is unfair. I do not think he has a point complaining about a fictional character experiencing things which are definitively part of the black American experience, just because there was a real guy somewhere that it didn't happen to. That said, boy that film sounds ham-handed. Then again the plot to Precious was ham-handed too and I liked that a lot.
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# ? Aug 27, 2013 18:44 |
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Yea it looks like it hits the Precious notes of 'this is really hamfisted and over the top but also somehow a pretty enjoyable movie because of how dedicated everyone is'. Of course it uses a real figure as a stand in for a general experience so now anyone like Mike can run around going 'ah ha the real guy in that position knew his fuckin place and didn't protest, LIARS!'
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# ? Aug 27, 2013 19:06 |
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Jack Gladney posted:He was raped as a kid and spent his life terrified that the nude photos of him that his rapist took would be used to humiliate Ronny. That's not something I want to make fun of him for, but the dude is messed up. Seriously? Wow, now I kinda feel bad. Still, doesn't change the fact that he's a regressive rear end in a top hat.
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# ? Aug 28, 2013 00:49 |
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Alter Ego posted:Seriously? Wow, now I kinda feel bad. Still, doesn't change the fact that he's a regressive rear end in a top hat. Bad things can happen to bad people too. The thing that really makes me sad is thinking about what Ronny did when (if) the kid disclosed what happened. Being raised by Reagan probably counts as child abuse.
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Wasn't it him that Reagan gave his first allowance, then taxed it at 95% because "that's what I pay?"
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