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kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

OneOverZero posted:



I once topped it off using five extra quarts of oil, at least two lifters were collapsed, and a couple bores were ovalled nearly 0.050" diametrically. It made single-digit oil pressure cold and sounded like a skeletons loving in a metal file cabinet.

It never would have been pulled if the internal slave cylinder hadn't blown and eaten the AX15's synchros.

So yeah, he might be sitting on that extra 4.0 for a while.

I spent an entire day a few weeks ago doing rather spirited road driving (well, for a 4" lifted comanche with no sway bars and 33" tires, anyways) with my oil so low that the pressure dropped to zero going around corners. It hasn't even made any bad noises since then.

4.0s will last forever as long as you choose only one at a time: no coolant, no oil, or cylinders full of water. Actually, now that I think about it, I've done no coolant once, 5 quarts (out of a total fill of 6) low on oil several times, and cylinders full of water 4 times on this engine now and it hasn't ventilated the block yet...

Sandbagger's engine apparently had motor honey in it when it was purchased, because it started making a horrible rod bearing racket a short while after I changed the oil in it right after we dropped the motor in. He ran it with no coolant in it for a significant distance, until it shut off in fact, and it hasn't failed... yet... but a new motor is on the list because daily driving a ticking time bomb is a mistake. Having one as a fun-poo poo/backup vehicle on the other hand :effort:

e: the motor that came out of my MJ had about that much ring ridge, and copper showing across 2/3 of all 6 rod bearings, but had great oil pressure, no bad noises, and ran like a top! At ~240-250k miles, after being run 4.5 quarts low on oil for approx 100 miles over the course of the previous year.

They are terrible motors if you ever want to exceed 25mpg, but great if you just want extreme durability and reasonable torque/power.

kastein fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Sep 6, 2013

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rscott
Dec 10, 2009

Crustashio posted:

These are the tow hooks you're looking for:

http://www.gotuning.com/product_info.php?products_id=1185

Only 2500 for some loving 7075-AL.

Yep, these were the ones I remember.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
stanced, slammed, and flushed

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

CarForumPoster posted:

...he cant actually spell advice and yet thinks his is worth the same as a lawyers.
While I agree with the sentiment, you may want to tweak this a little...

CarForumPoster
Jun 26, 2013

⚡POWER⚡

InitialDave posted:

While I agree with the sentiment, you may want to tweak this a little...

Im giving out mine for free I dont need to know poo poo about poo poo

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
8 ton my rear end.


The King of Swag
Nov 10, 2005

To escape the closure,
is to become the God of Swag.

kastein posted:

They are terrible motors if you ever want to exceed 25mpg, but great if you just want extreme durability and reasonable torque/power.

Define reasonable torque/power, because one of my dad's friends had an AMC Eagle with a 4.0L (surprisingly not that easy of a swap from a 4.2 I6) and ITBs on it, and it was a loving monster. Sounded like Satan trying to escape hell when he'd get on it. I wonder what ever happened to that car, because I don't ever remember seeing it again after my early teens.

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.

The King of Swag posted:

Define reasonable torque/power, because one of my dad's friends had an AMC Eagle with a 4.0L (surprisingly not that easy of a swap from a 4.2 I6) and ITBs on it, and it was a loving monster. Sounded like Satan trying to escape hell when he'd get on it. I wonder what ever happened to that car, because I don't ever remember seeing it again after my early teens.

The 4.0 straight sixes are amazing. I've had two Jeep Cherokees and they pull hard, even stock. With the High Output version I had in one Jeep, I could stop on a slight incline, put it in first and let out the clutch; it'd crawl forward without touching the gas pedal. Amazed me every time. I can only imagine what it's like built-up with ITBs, exhaust and everything.

"Relatively" easy to work on, too, though some things are very cramped and oddly placed.

Probably the easiest car I've ever worked on was a Saturn Coupe. Dead simple engine and lots of room in the engine bay.

opengl
Sep 16, 2010

anonumos posted:

"Relatively" easy to work on, too, though some things are very cramped and oddly placed.

Probably the easiest car I've ever worked on was a Saturn Coupe. Dead simple engine and lots of room in the engine bay.

Nothing touches my first car (Tercel) for ease of maintenance for me personally so far. Similar to the Saturn I guess, super super basic, and loads of room, even more once I took off that intake snorkel (lets not get into my early teen ricer moments)

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

The King of Swag posted:

Define reasonable torque/power, because one of my dad's friends had an AMC Eagle with a 4.0L (surprisingly not that easy of a swap from a 4.2 I6) and ITBs on it, and it was a loving monster. Sounded like Satan trying to escape hell when he'd get on it. I wonder what ever happened to that car, because I don't ever remember seeing it again after my early teens.

I said reasonable because I was pretty sure someone would pile on me if I said they are powerful :v:

I have had basically every 4.0 powered vehicle I have ever owned to either fuel cut (116mph) or 120 with about 1/4 throttle remaining. Not bad for a 30 year old engine design (if not older) in a car shaped like a brick.

That being said I still want more power.

JukeboxHerostratus
Nov 25, 2009

kastein posted:

I said reasonable because I was pretty sure someone would pile on me if I said they are powerful :v:

I have had basically every 4.0 powered vehicle I have ever owned to either fuel cut (116mph) or 120 with about 1/4 throttle remaining. Not bad for a 30 year old engine design (if not older) in a car shaped like a brick.

That being said I still want more power.

Know much about intake manifold swaps, or swapping the mechanical fan for electrics? I've read somewhere that these can marginally increase power, but I don't feel like gambling $500. I'd be interested in seeing some numbers, though.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
A 99 and later 4.0 mani supposedly gives 0-fahv hunnert horsepowah increase depending on the iq of the person telling you. I would bet on 0-5 without supporting mods (bigger exhaust, porting, valve work, etc.)

As for fans, fin design and clutch or motor design will have more to do with performance vs power consumption than mech vs electric will, strictly speaking a well designed mechanical fan has less losses than an electric simply because it skips alternator and motor inefficiencies. It's mostly a matter of fin design and getting it to run at the speed you want without a thermo viscous clutch sucking up some power at that point. I am an electrical guy though so this may be wrong headed, but it makes sense to me.

wallaka
Jun 8, 2010

Least it wasn't a fucking red shell

kastein posted:

As for fans, fin design and clutch or motor design will have more to do with performance vs power consumption than mech vs electric will, strictly speaking a well designed mechanical fan has less losses than an electric simply because it skips alternator and motor inefficiencies. It's mostly a matter of fin design and getting it to run at the speed you want without a thermo viscous clutch sucking up some power at that point. I am an electrical guy though so this may be wrong headed, but it makes sense to me.

It makes sense, but it doesn't seem to work out that way. An electric fan will only work when you need it to, while engine-driven fans work hardest and suck up the most power when you don't need them at all, even with a viscous clutch, and they're always on. The fans are needed most at idle. The electric fans in anything I've converted just freewheel at above 15-20 mph because there's enough air flow to make them turn off.

I wouldn't pay $500, though, that's half or a third of a damned car. I paid maybe $50 for the 4500 CFM fan, relay, fuse, thermo switch, wire scraps, and all.

Love the 4.0, maybe I'll have one some day. I've had some bulletproof Ford I6 engines before.

Hugh G. Rectum
Mar 1, 2011

Ingredients: One (1) busted rear end rusty Ford Escort, One (1) Welder with nothing better to do on a weekend, Zero (0) Money for repairs. Mix well, leave in the sun for Eight (8) hours, and enjoy!











According to the poster, the extra metal is from some left over Chevy S10 body panels.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
"Extra metal?" That's like saying an burn victim gets "extra" skin.

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008

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Hey Londers, dont park next to this building.


Or this might happen.



quote:

The car belongs to Martin Lindsay, the director of a tiling company, who parked his Jaguar in central London's Eastcheap on Thursday afternoon.

The car was in the ray for just an hour but the panels were buckled and there was reportedly a smell of burning plastic.

People walking buy often have to shield their eyes from the incredible glare and the building has been dubbed the 'Walkie Scorchie' by nearby workers.

Joint developers Land Securities and Canary Wharf said they are investigating, adding: 'As a precautionary measure, the City of London has agreed to suspend three parking bays in the area which may be affected.'

General_Failure
Apr 17, 2005

wallaka posted:

It makes sense, but it doesn't seem to work out that way. An electric fan will only work when you need it to, while engine-driven fans work hardest and suck up the most power when you don't need them at all, even with a viscous clutch, and they're always on. The fans are needed most at idle. The electric fans in anything I've converted just freewheel at above 15-20 mph because there's enough air flow to make them turn off.

I wouldn't pay $500, though, that's half or a third of a damned car. I paid maybe $50 for the 4500 CFM fan, relay, fuse, thermo switch, wire scraps, and all.

Love the 4.0, maybe I'll have one some day. I've had some bulletproof Ford I6 engines before.

This. Yes there are losses from the extra steps of mech. -> elec. -> mech. but it's more than made up for. As long at the thermo switch is the correct temperature they will only turn on when needed which is usually at lower rev high load situations where any form of mechanical fan isn't as efficient. There is also a noticable difference in "revviness" of an engine after a mechanical fan has been removed, especially on smaller engines. They wind up a lot faster and wind down a little slower. The butt dyno indicates there is a little more power available too, but not a whole lot.

Also holy poo poo @ that Escort!

Galler
Jan 28, 2008


Preoptopus posted:

Hey Londers, dont park next to this building.


Or this might happen.



If anyone wants to know the :science: of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ1Hgzi2ElQ

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
Guys, you need to check your grounds periodically, even the chassis ones. Here's what I discovered today while doing the front brakes on :siren:my fiancee's:siren: brakes today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzLoeIfc5-U
Yes, that is the ground strap. I touched it and it just fell off - the video says the rest.



Though, in a non-mechanical-failure plus, it is a Ford Explorer with over 200,000 miles on it. Every now and again the O/D light flashes on and off for a few minutes and it clunks into first gear when slowing down. It flashed all of the time and kept burning up transmission fluid and got horrible (~8mpg) mileage, but a new valve body and filter fixed 90% of that problem.


Proof that is has hit 200k:


Also, I did the brakes today. Cutting it pretty close; I'd call it a "narrowly-avoided mechanical failure."



CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Falken posted:

How much force would that have taken to happen?



Here's the friction plate from my old VW Polo, this happened 200 miles from home. I could have driven it, but I had breakdown cover with return from anywhere on it, so I opted for a comfortable coach ride instead.

Got a question...what sort of sound did this make?

JukeboxHerostratus
Nov 25, 2009

Thanks for the input on the fans, guys. The $500 was an estimation on getting a new manifold (200 at the closest pick-n-pull) and an E-fan setup with electronics I found for around 300.

I might do the fan swap someday, but I have more pressing things to take care of. My brakes are starting to squeak and I'm afraid my tires aren't what they used to be. On top of that, I've lately had some strange gremlins showing up. It isn't much fun to be cruising around at 45 and have the engine just shut off and die. No sputter and cough, just die. Can't kill that little Cherokee though.

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?

CommieGIR posted:

Got a question...what sort of sound did this make?
SHHHHKRLUNK then it drove normally. Pressing the clutch pedal did sweet gently caress all, but if I revmatched the car would drive absolutely fine.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Falken posted:

SHHHHKRLUNK then it drove normally. Pressing the clutch pedal did sweet gently caress all, but if I revmatched the car would drive absolutely fine.

If you revved the motor up to 3k, did it make an odd metallic rattling sound?

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?
Nope! It made no unusual sounds when driving, I just had no clutch pedal.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Falken posted:

Nope! It made no unusual sounds when driving, I just had no clutch pedal.

The only reason I ask is my Audi is doing the same thing, it won't shift into gear without basically forcing it into gear, and a funny rattling metal sound comes from behind the motor at 2.5k-3k

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.

CommieGIR posted:

The only reason I ask is my Audi is doing the same thing, it won't shift into gear without basically forcing it into gear, and a funny rattling metal sound comes from behind the motor at 2.5k-3k

Bad news. Your transmission may not make it.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

anonumos posted:

Bad news. Your transmission may not make it.

It does it in neutral too though, so I'm hoping its just the clutch

General_Failure
Apr 17, 2005

CommieGIR posted:

It does it in neutral too though, so I'm hoping its just the clutch

if it does it in neutral too it could still be the transmission but my first suspect would be the throwout bearing.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
Could be the bearing supporting the input shaft, or the pocket bearing between the input and output shafts. This may not apply to audis.

Does it do it in gear with the clutch depressed?

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

kastein posted:

Could be the bearing supporting the input shaft, or the pocket bearing between the input and output shafts. This may not apply to audis.

Does it do it in gear with the clutch depressed?

:doh: It might actually be the valves, I've gotta pull the head, there is some loud lifter tick going on...

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!
Maybe it's one of your 12 timing chains.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Splizwarf posted:

Maybe it's one of your 12 timing chains.

.....its a single timing belt. Wrong Audi.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!
Oh I know, figured it was older. Worst it gets is 4, anyway. I think hope.

BeastPussy
Jul 15, 2003

im so mumped up lmao
Pictures from on the job with customer complaints underneath.


"Brakes feel funny."



"Bumped a curb, will it be fixed by the end of the day?"


"Vehicle cranks but engine does not start. Battery?"


"Left rear tire slow leak."


No complaint, just something I noticed during a normal check before aligning it. It's one way to fix a stripped drain plug I suppose.


This was my fuel filler neck on the day I finally replaced it. The screwdriver did not make either hole that it is stuck through.



"Repair tire." It seems the wood glue and duct tape put on by the customer didn't do the trick.


Brand new Kia Sedona with 1,500 miles got towed in and the right front CV axle had blown the gently caress up for no apparent reason. Warranty work for the dealer.

MadScientistWorking
Jun 23, 2010

"I was going through a time period where I was looking up weird stories involving necrophilia..."

Preoptopus posted:

Hey Londers, dont park next to this building.


Or this might happen.


Wow. I can't believe that someone was moronic enough to turn a building into a reflective lens a second time. The first time being was Disney Opera House in California. What is it with architects and curved surfaces that they don't realize that they might just end up turning it into a giant lens? At least with the opera house they were able to sandblast the curved surfaces as it was just a metal lining.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
To be fair, it's the first time London has seen a clear day since 1874.

totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.
Didn't the architect design some verandas or something that would provide shade and prevent that from happening, but they got taken out for budget reasons?

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.

MadScientistWorking posted:

Wow. I can't believe that someone was moronic enough to turn a building into a reflective lens a second time. The first time being was Disney Opera House in California. What is it with architects and curved surfaces that they don't realize that they might just end up turning it into a giant lens? At least with the opera house they were able to sandblast the curved surfaces as it was just a metal lining.

Reflections can be a problem.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/02/arts/design/renzo-pianos-nasher-museum-in-dallas-has-sunburn-problem.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

quote:

Two things were supposed to happen when the Nasher Sculpture Center opened here in 2003. Famous works like Rodin’s “Age of Bronze” and Matisse’s “Madeleine I” were to be bathed in copious sunlight streaming through a glass roof. And new vigor was to come to the surrounding neighborhood.

The results exceeded expectations. And Dallas has a mess on its hands.

The center, designed by Renzo Piano and Peter Walker, was considered so appealing that a 42-story condominium called Museum Tower sprouted across the street. But the glass skin of the condo tower, still under construction, now reflects so much light that it is threatening artworks in the galleries, burning the plants in the center’s garden and blinding visitors with its glare.

No one quite knows what to do. The condo developer and museum officials are at loggerheads. Fingers are being pointed. Mr. Piano is furious. The developer’s architect is aggrieved. The mayor is involved. A former official in the George W. Bush administration has been asked to mediate.

If I recall correctly, paintings had to be moved away from the sunlight specifically designed to bathe them in a diffuse glow. With the additional reflection, I heard that some paintings began to run and melt.

anonumos fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Sep 9, 2013

Slack3r
Feb 20, 2004

Horse Divorce posted:

Thanks for the input on the fans, guys. The $500 was an estimation on getting a new manifold (200 at the closest pick-n-pull) and an E-fan setup with electronics I found for around 300.

I might do the fan swap someday, but I have more pressing things to take care of. My brakes are starting to squeak and I'm afraid my tires aren't what they used to be. On top of that, I've lately had some strange gremlins showing up. It isn't much fun to be cruising around at 45 and have the engine just shut off and die. No sputter and cough, just die. Can't kill that little Cherokee though.

Google around for "Cherokee Taurus Fan Swap". I guess the mid 90s Taurus 3800 fans are perfect for fan swaps. The aftermarket thermostats are about $50 at the parts places. I did an e-fan conversion on an '84 Cherokee with the 4 banger engine and some other fan. Worked great. More room in the 2.5L bay than the 4.0 tho.

I can't believe that they want 200 for an 99+ intake? I picked one up here for 35 bux from the pick-n-pull. It was already out and in their aluminum bins. I just pulled it out. A quick search on eBay shows a 99+ 4.0 Cherokee intake for $100 buy it now with 18 bux ship from Colorado..

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kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
Yeah, 200 is insane. I think I could probably get one for 20-30 here.

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