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MrAristocrates posted:As far as I recall, the main (or possibly only) difference between the two is that Very Hard kicks you back to the title screen when you die. Welp, that's basically going back to the ps2 days then. How's normal then? Is it too easy.
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Normal is extremely easy, yes.
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Sep 3, 2013 19:45
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I played my first run of P4G on Normal thinking it would be like my first run of the game years ago. Dead wrong.
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MrAristocrates posted:As far as I recall, the main (or possibly only) difference between the two is that Very Hard kicks you back to the title screen when you die. It also cuts your gold and exp rate. So apart from making you level slower and making gear harder to afford, there's no added difficulty in going from Hard to Very Hard.
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Sep 3, 2013 23:26
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Woah. I got through Adachi's gungeon and I had no idea there was so much more added content. The bonus dungeon is pretty weird.
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Sep 4, 2013 02:10
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ManOfTheYear posted:The bonus dungeon is pretty weird. The bonus dungeon is just a friendly reminder from the team that worked on SMT: Strange Journey that they hate you.
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Sep 4, 2013 02:19
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Why does Yosuke's max s. link have a reference to Fight Club? I always thought it was a little weird to see that there.
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Sep 4, 2013 03:45
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Because other than honorifics Atlas USA fuckin' owns.
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oblomov posted:I think this is very debatable. If anything, you wouldn't want to have Teddie and Yosuke at same time. Yukiko is a major damage dealer, especially in late game (once you have final persona, mind charge and that insane fire attack) and with appropriate gear/skill setup. Teddie never even comes close, he is more all around support with some healing/damage thrown in. Unless you go to final evolutions, Teddie and Yukiko used to be the only 2 party members that can never lose their weakness and having 2 weaknesses in an endgame party could have been a liability. Teddie can't outdamage Yukiko later on, but early on both of them are sort of Healer/Nuker with some support. As the game goes on Yukiko becomes better at damage and Teddie becomes better at support. But yeah as a lot of people have said P4Golden sort of made every team member grossly overpowered, so you can use whoever you want and you'll be alright. If you have 2 of these on the same team: Chie Yukiko Kanji Naoto Yosuke Teddie They have a chance of doing an extra attack after an All Out Attack but it's nothing significant to base a team around.
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Vindicator posted:My go-to party is Yosuke, Yukiko and Teddie, with my character either using Odin or Thor for lightning weaknesses. All three party buffs, Yukiko for healing and murder by fire, every elemental weakness covered. The downside is no-one's copping a chair across the face. Kanji hits so goddamned hard though that he's worth it. And if you're bringing him, you gotta be a bro and bring Naoto too. 
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Somebody in this thread said that you shouldn't use Yukiko and Teddie at the same time because they are so similiar, but to me having both of them leaves a lot of wiggle room: having more than one healer can be good if a boss battle keeps going on for too long and sp becomes an issue and I haven't had a problem with dealing enough damage because of two potential healers. Also why Naoto is useless? I never used him.
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ManOfTheYear posted:Also why Naoto is useless? I never used him. Naoto's a lot better than in the original, because now access to all six elements is possible, and the Persona has no weaknesses. The flipside is that there isn't really a skill to hit multiple opponents except for physical attacks, which you have better characters for (Chie, Yukiko, even Yosuke). Probably the most improved character from the PS2 version, though.
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I have never, ever run out of SP in a boss fight with Yukiko. Yukiko swims in SP. There's no need to guardband against her running out by utilizing two healers. Naoto is somewhat difficult to use in boss fights because she only really gets one good move (Bufudyne) that you still have to go way out of your way to beef up with the Ice boosting gun and obviously an Ice boosting accessory. You'd think that Megidolaon would be what you'd use, but it just doesn't hit hard enough even with Mind Charge to offset the SP requirements. All of this is because Naoto's main strengths are her Light/Dark instant kill skills, which are great for mopping up mobs but obviously not useful in boss fights. Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Sep 4, 2013 |
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ApplesandOranges posted:Naoto's a lot better than in the original, because now access to all six elements is possible, and the Persona has no weaknesses. The flipside is that there isn't really a skill to hit multiple opponents except for physical attacks, which you have better characters for (Chie, Yukiko, even Yosuke). Mahamaon and Mamudoon.
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ManOfTheYear posted:Somebody in this thread said that you shouldn't use Yukiko and Teddie at the same time because they are so similiar, but to me having both of them leaves a lot of wiggle room: having more than one healer can be good if a boss battle keeps going on for too long and sp becomes an issue and I haven't had a problem with dealing enough damage because of two potential healers. Naoto is very good at clearing out trash mobs because of instant kill and almighty skills. At the same time, that is a weakness, because it leaves the character with very little utility in boss fights due to a rather limited SP pool. Access to cheaper elemental skills helps, but that's only enough to prevent Naoto from being a liability.
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But then you get Shield of Justice, and Naoto rockets to the top of the heap for boss fights.
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Really Pants posted:But then you get Shield of Justice, and Naoto rockets to the top of the heap for boss fights. Honestly, that skill seems pretty useless! You're better off just tanking the damage and healing when necessary.
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Really Pants posted:But then you get Shield of Justice, and Naoto rockets to the top of the heap for boss fights.
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King of Solomon posted:Honestly, that skill seems pretty useless! You're better off just tanking the damage and healing when necessary. Turns you don't need to spend on healing are turns you can spend on Burning Petals.
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Yeah, but all those turns spent using burning petals could have been saved with a single hassou tobi. Basically it's pointless to argue the efficacy of battle strategies as long as that attack exists.
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Shield of Justice trivializes the true last boss.
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My party was Yukiko, Teddie and Naoto. Naoto's mahamaon and two healers made grinding and bosses a breeze. I can't remember a fight I had a hard time with in the second half until the bonus dungeon and the last couple bosses. Even the final final boss was nothing, but at the point I had a max leveled Lucifer, so...
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Any tips on grinding? The last boss is kicking my rear end.
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ManOfTheYear posted:Any tips on grinding? The last boss is kicking my rear end.
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Nate RFB posted:Kill golden hands in Magatsu Inaba. Is there any specific way or place to find them or is it just luck to see them? ManOfTheYear fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Sep 5, 2013 |
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Sep 5, 2013 02:46
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I forget; if you don't max out all of the social links you want to in a single playthrough, is that okay? Are you suppose to be able to do it if you plan your days very carefully? I feel like you actually can't, and I don't remember if you can only do it or not on NG+ on the PS2 version.
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You can do it with a guide on the PS2 version but you'll have to clear dungeons in one go and reset for stat increases on rainy days, I think. Not sure about Golden.
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You can definitely max out all of the S. Links on your first playthrough. There are guides to do so on both the PS2 and Vita versions. For my own part I was able to just barely max all of the Links without a guide (though I had knowledge from the PS2 version) on my first run through P4G. E: You should not actually attempt this, it just happened to work out that way in my case.ManOfTheYear posted:Is there any specific way or place to find them or is it just luck to see them? Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Sep 5, 2013 |
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Probably too late for me to do it then. Ooh well i'm not gonna stress it. I know what all of the endings are so it doesn't matter.
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I said come in! posted:Probably too late for me to do it then. Ooh well i'm not gonna stress it. I know what all of the endings are so it doesn't matter. That's the right way to look at it, anyways. While it's certainly possible to do, it requires pretty strict planning, if not necessarily as strict as it used to be.
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Nate RFB posted:Just luck, I guess. They're not that rare to be honest. What level are you now? What a great game. Gameplay is great, presentation is excellent, soundtrack is excellent, writing is better than the last game. One of the reasons why I like this game so much is that every character in it is just nice. Everybody is friendly and cheerful, everybody always thinks about inviting everybody in whatever they are doing, everybody is nice towards Nanako.. Very few games are like that and it just is so drat pleasent to be in Inaba. More games should have that attitude.
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King of Solomon posted:That's the right way to look at it, anyways. While it's certainly possible to do, it requires pretty strict planning, if not necessarily as strict as it used to be. Yeah, I was only able to do it in New Game+ after I maxed all my social stats. Only trophies I need now are the 100 cards registered and the stupid Risette's Line one. Ugh.
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About to start 7/31 or 8/1 and wanted to make sure I'm where I need to be. - MC is at lv. 37. Haven't fought a battle since I rescued ----Rise---- earlier in the month, but I can't even go into the tv now that I'm hunting info on the weird kid who asked Yukiko out about 20 hours ago who's now showed up in the tv. Is my level okay? I feel like I'm overlevelled, but it's been hours since I fought something. - My slinks are (estimated): Chie 8, Fox 4, Dojimas 5-6 (need more expression to continue, trying to translate enough to get there), Kanji 4, Yukiko 4, Teddie 4, Yosuke 3 (meh), Kou and Yumi probably around 3-4. Adachi's at around 4-5. Just made Marie say fsteak, so, 1? what should I work on, is there a way to raise Expression faster and is there a way to see what level everybody's at besides trying to remember when they level up? - I'm about $12,000 from being able to fuse Black Frost, but what skills should it have? Thanks. About 25 hours in, and this game is probably my GOTY. Enjoying it immensely, just worried I'm missing something obvious heading into August.
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So finally getting into this after getting a pricedropped bundle, but one thing I'm not sure about... is that bonus dungeon I keep hearing about only available if you romance Marie? I keep hearing conflicting info on this.
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Soul Glo posted:About to start 7/31 or 8/1 and wanted to make sure I'm where I need to be. If you can fuse Black Frost before the next boss, you'll be fine. You might be a little overlevel, but that just happens in Golden. Just make sure to get Adachi to 6 before November and max Marie before the end of December and you should be good.
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Soul Glo posted:About to start 7/31 or 8/1 and wanted to make sure I'm where I need to be. Black Frost is 37 or 38, so you're fine. quote:- My slinks are (estimated): Chie 8, Fox 4, Dojimas 5-6 (need more expression to continue, trying to translate enough to get there), Kanji 4, Yukiko 4, Teddie 4, Yosuke 3 (meh), Kou and Yumi probably around 3-4. Adachi's at around 4-5. Just made Marie say fsteak, so, 1? what should I work on, is there a way to raise Expression faster and is there a way to see what level everybody's at besides trying to remember when they level up? There's an "S.Link" screen in the pause menu that shows all your ranks. Other ways to raise Expression: --Going to drama club. --Washing dishes at Shiroku Pub and talking to the outgoing young man. --Giving the right answers to the other kids when they ask for help in class. --Playing with the cat just outside the Dojima residence. This also raises Understanding every so often. --Tutoring, once you've maxed Understanding. --Putting a full set of model robots, scooters, or Persona dolls on your shelf will take a while, but raises all five social stats. As for other stuff: get Jester to 6 before November 1, and complete Aeon before you clear the December dungeon. quote:- I'm about $12,000 from being able to fuse Black Frost, but what skills should it have? You'll need Auto-Sukukaja for the Empress Social Link--grind Anzu to 20, and fuse it with Apsaras to get Jack Frost. quote:Thanks. About 25 hours in, and this game is probably my GOTY. Enjoying it immensely, just worried I'm missing something obvious heading into August. Don't worry about seeing everything on your first playthrough. You have enough time to max out your stats and all the "main" Social Links: your teammates, Justice, Heirophant, Jester, and Aeon. 404GoonNotFound posted:So finally getting into this after getting a pricedropped bundle, but one thing I'm not sure about... is that bonus dungeon I keep hearing about only available if you romance Marie? I keep hearing conflicting info on this. No, you just need to max her link. Hwurmp fucked around with this message at 10:07 on Sep 8, 2013 |
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Really Pants posted:No, you just need to max her link.
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Cool thanks for the advice. Must have completely forgot about the S. Links option in the pause menu.
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I got to the video game dungeon last night. The place looks so cool but some of those floors are a pain. I like all of the references though to older video games. Plus the boss that would later become a 3D Dot Game Hero character. 
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